Rays and Blue Jays???

[VolsRaysBucs]

:TB: send
CI Victor Martinez 9(2015)*Rays pay 1.5m in 2015*
:TOR: send
OF Alex Jackson 0.5(p-n/a)
MI Tim Beckham 0.5(p-n/a)
CI/OF Darin Ruf 6.5(2016)

This deal was offered via a PM a few days ago and completely forgot about/lost/buried until the last hour.  Held out until last minute to see if Daniel would be able to respond for certainty.  Wanted to get this posted with the full understanding that Daniel has full right to not accept this deal, as the PM was not an official offer, but close enough that I wanted to get this posted in case the offer was official.  Daniel and Toronto to confirm if they so choose.

[Daniel]

Jays accept. Sorry, I had forgotten to post it too. This trade gives us the CI we need to make a good run for the title this year and helps clear some capr room to resign kipnis next year

[Dan Wood]

That Darin Ruf signing was, well, rough...

 :iatp:

[BHows]

This trade has been ruled invalid. It was not consummated (confirmed) prior to the trade deadline. Both parties are long time members in FGM and are, or at least should be, aware of the trade deadline.

[VolsRaysBucs]

So let me make sure I understand this.  Two, as you stated, long-time members of FGM reach an agreement on a deal.  Due to circumstances outside of their control, they are unable (for a period of several hours directly preceding deadline) to communicate a final confirmation PM.  Once the site server is finally back up and running, one party clearly lays out the deal and the details in the transactions board after having waiting until the final moments hoping for a confirming PM.  Turns out, due to the server issues, our paths crossed.  Imagine a real-life GM not having a cell phone the day of the deadline due to circumstances none-his-own. 

Fast-forward several hours and you have a co-commissioner that signs off on the deal and the other GM who logs on to accept terms.  Nearly, if not all other leagues on the site extended the deadline many hours to a days' length time period to account for the site issues.  No issues at this point, right?  Apparently, wrong. 

I am at a complete loss to understand why this league continues to operate under such rigid and archaic standards.  When does common sense get allowed into the conversation?  This wasn't "car problems getting to a computer."  This was a site issue that prevented communication.  These are two GMs who've payed their dues and done their time, not fly-by-nighters trying to game the system.  Regardless, the handling of the situation has illustrated a bigger issue for me, which is what compelled me to speak out rather than just go along. 

I can no longer justify spending as much time as I do on a league that no longer provides me the joy it once did.  To invest hours, be it in a deal shot down by an over-reaching TC or  trades ambushed by technical glitches to the site and then have those hours count for literally nothing...is no longer palatable.  I do not say any of this to cause problems for the league, quite literally the contrary.  I would like to see this league return to its glory days.  I hope this little note shakes some of the chains that bind it.  I will just watch from a distance at this point.

Effective the end of this season, I will be stepping down from my GM stake in the Rays and all positions on the staff.  It is not spilled milk, rather an accumulation of small instances that added up to an easy decision.  I bring this up now to give you guys the best opportunity to line up/recruit a replacement.  Best of luck boys, look forward to continue competing with many of you in the other various leagues!  :toast:

[BHows]

By your own admission this was an "offer" made "a few days ago" and forgotten. By definition a trade must be agreed upon by both parties therefore what you posted was not a trade.Your argument that the server was done for hours doesn't hold a lot of water when you admitted you made the proposal a few days ago. The server MAY have been down an hour and if I recall that was around 7:00. You posted with 1 minute 14 second to spare.
I'm sorry to see you go but don't blame the league for this. This deadline has been in place as long as I've been here and this is the first incident that we've had as far as I know. If you are serious about leaving we will replace you immediately. It wouldn't be fair to the new owner who should decide who to resign, among other long term decisions.

[VolsRaysBucs]

I don't care to hear about "fairness" to another owner.  As stated previously, I will step down effective the end of the season.  I can assure the team will be left in fine standing...

Edit: For the sake of transparency, the only "long-term" decision of any consequence is Victor Martinez.  Everyone else is locked up, a spare part, or a RP.
*Pending TB FA*
Victor Martinez
Andrew Romine
Jarrod Parker
Jacob Turner
Ross Ohlendorf
Kelvin Herrera
Drew Storen
Chad Qualls
Jason Frasor

[BHows]

I don't care to hear about "fairness" to another owner.  As stated previously, I will step down effective the end of the season.  I can assure the team will be left in fine standing...

Edit: For the sake of transparency, the only "long-term" decision of any consequence is Victor Martinez.  Everyone else is locked up, a spare part, or a RP.
*Pending TB FA*
Victor Martinez
Andrew Romine
Jarrod Parker
Jacob Turner
Ross Ohlendorf
Kelvin Herrera
Drew Storen
Chad Qualls
Jason Frasor

Conveniently left out Adam Jones (http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=216087.0) who is pretty important. I can expect an owner to come in and understand the rules and make a decision in the few days between end of season and closing the books.
My job is to look out for the league as a whole no matter how archaic it is. In fact, I prefer to keep it that way- Not just another Yahoo public league where we see how many trades we can make in a day. I like it realistic.
We'll be working n a replacement immediately, thanks for your time.
Rick

[VolsRaysBucs]

Wasn't conveniently forgotten, simple mistake, I have him down in my books as a pending re-sign.  Try not to forget how you were let back into the league, on a technicality, Hoss.  Best of luck going forward with a league so near and dear to you, one you've quit already how many times?  You may want to have a few more replacements (perhaps from those yahoo boards you so despise) for season's end...you know, just in case.   :toth:

[BHows]

Wasn't conveniently forgotten, simple mistake, I have him down in my books as a pending re-sign.  Try not to forget how you were let back into the league, on a technicality, Hoss.  Best of luck going forward with a league so near and dear to you, one you've quit already how many times?  You may want to have a few more replacements (perhaps from those yahoo boards you so despise) for season's end...you know, just in case.   :toth:

I was unceremoniously dropped after offering to resign at the end of the season HOSS.  Hence your immediate replacement. Even with my time spent away from the league I can guarantee I've dedicated more time to this league than you have thought about, and yes, I'm proud of it's dinosaur image and uniqueness.  I'll stand behind the work I've put in in exchange for the enjoyment I've gotten from ProFSL. You willing to do the same? Sitting on Chat Box soliciting trades does not count!