Red sox / phillies come to terms

[nerwffej]

Red Sox trade
MI Reyes, Jose, $7m (2014)

Phillies trade
MI Donald, Jason, $0.5m (2011)
MI Escobar, Yunel, $6.5m (2012)
P Luebke, Cory, $0.5m (P-n/a)

I make deal I get Escobar player I like and feel fills Reyes shoes well and get 2 young players to add to my farm system for future and now

[papps]

Phillies agree to terms. 

I am happy to add Reyes to my infield.  I gave up some youth but I'm happy with Reyes and Phillips in my infield.  I feel this makes me more solid up the middle.

Thanks Jeff!!  :toast:

[Needle Juice]

I expected Reyes to fetch more. Both Luebke and Donald are getting old to call prospects, but both have a chance to have serviceable careers. Looks ok, if you both arer happy.

[Mr.TradeKing]

I completely agree, I believe Donald has missed his time. I would like to hear the rest of the TC's opinion on this one. If Reyes had been put on the open market, he would have fetched at least 3 times more.

~MTK

[papps]

I disagree....Reyes is coming off two injury filled seasons.  He is playing well this year.  Escobar is young and not real far behind Reyes.  Luebke will be in the rotation in a pitchers park in SD and Donald will be the starting 3b for Cleveland when he comes back from his injury.  Jeff is looking to rebuild his team and he got some solid pieces back.  It fits needs on both our teams.  Of course I will agree with whatever the trade committee says but Jeff and I are happy with our deal.

[lp815]

I'll confirm, Escobar's contract is more manageable than Reyes, and he seems to be thriving in TOR.

However, I do agree Jeff could have garnered more or better offers if he put Reyes on the block.

[guak2005]

I don't know about this one. Reyes is worth much more in my mind. And it's not like Yunel is coming in cheap at 6.5. In fact Reyes at 7m through 2014 has a very manageable contract. Even an appealing one. Maybe if a better prospect was included or another player to add depth.

[papps]

We got two approvals and two not sures.  I still stand by this trade.  Point wise its not that far off without Donald.  Donald will be starting at 3b for Cle very shortly.  Compared to some of the other trades that have been approved this one is not bad at all.  We both got what we wanted and are happy.  I gave Jeff 3 out of 4 players he asked for and all were on my trade block.  I understand that people think he could of gotten more but this is the deal we negotiated and I feel it is fair.  Luebke is an injury from being in the starting rotation if he's not going to be there soon anyway.  He is also my best reliever.  Escobar is young with a lot of upside and Donald hasn't played yet due to injury.  Reyes is in a contract year and a gamble with his health.  I'm just not sure why this would be vetoed if we make a deal we both want.

[Mr.TradeKing]

I have watched Yunel for years, he will always be a defensive shortstop. At the end of the year, we will see his overall stats, which I expect will be career averages.

~MTK

[guak2005]

The trade committee's job is to evaluate the fairness of a trade, not how much each manager likes the trade. If that were the only thing that mattered then no deal ever would be vetoed. Also, it is not about whether or not he could have fetched more elsewhere, there are many trades that are approved that could have fetched more... It is about whether or not the deal is fair enough for the league and its future. I for one I'm voting against this trade because after further evaluation I am certain that Reyes is worth significantly more than Yunel and a couple of so so prospects. I wanted to hear a better explanation from the Red Sox as to why they are doing this deal before deciding, but he hasn't offered one yet so I vote to veto.

I propose a renegotiation of the deal. A better prospect, or adding some major leaguers that provide depth would make it a good enough deal.