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Get Rid of the Trade Committee
« on: October 22, 2014, 05:09:56 PM »
I propose that we eliminate the Trade Committee.  I have two major problems with the TC.

1.  The very existence of a TC in a league that is supposed to emulate reality is a contradiction of terms.  The vetting process for new owners should ensure that we only bring in owners whose knowledge and expertise we trust.

2.  The TC does NOT work.  It does not seem to have prevented countless bad trades in any of the leagues that utilize a TC.  Imo, it is an exercise in futility and only serves to aggravate the owners involved in trades.  Some bad trades may have been prevented, but countless more have been approved which brings into question the entire process.  It's akin to handing out speeding tickets on a national highway.  It gives the illusion that you are preventing a crime, but in reality you are only catching the few unlucky enough to be caught.

I propose the following:

1.  Improve the vetting process for new owners.  Scrutinize past deals made by these owners in other PSL leagues.

2.  Institute a policy of increasing penalties for teams that continue to make lopsided trades.  The initial penalty might be to suspend their trading rights for a pre-determined time span.  The ultimate penalty would be to terminate their ownership.
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Re: Get Rid of the Trade Committee
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2014, 05:21:56 PM »
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Re: Get Rid of the Trade Committee
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2014, 05:43:21 PM »
I like the idea of getting rid of a set TC and I think we should make it league wide votes.  We have a lot of good tenured managers here and I think more people should get a say instead of the same 5 or 6 people every year. 

I also think trades should be looked at as whats best for the league and not if someone thinks they could have gotten more or not.  If a trade is between two owners that have a plan they should be able to run their team the way they want.  I've most likely made more trades than anyone the last couple of years and I pride myself on making good fair deals.  Different people have different opinions which is fine but I think opening up votes to the whole league would be a welcomed change.

I'm all for doing a little research on a new owner.  I don't think penalties for lopsided trades will work as it will lead to more aggravation and most likely more turnover. 
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Re: Get Rid of the Trade Committee
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2014, 07:23:33 PM »
I like the idea of getting rid of a set TC and I think we should make it league wide votes.  We have a lot of good tenured managers here and I think more people should get a say instead of the same 5 or 6 people every year. 

I also think trades should be looked at as whats best for the league and not if someone thinks they could have gotten more or not.  If a trade is between two owners that have a plan they should be able to run their team the way they want.  I've most likely made more trades than anyone the last couple of years and I pride myself on making good fair deals.  Different people have different opinions which is fine but I think opening up votes to the whole league would be a welcomed change.

I'm all for doing a little research on a new owner.  I don't think penalties for lopsided trades will work as it will lead to more aggravation and most likely more turnover.

Chris,

I am good with your post.  I do need to say that prior to coming to profsl, I was in a league on proboards where we had league wide vote, it was not a good setup.  Trades took forever to process and people teamed up against trades.  Better people here.  I am fine with change, but not a fan of league wide vote.
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Re: Get Rid of the Trade Committee
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2014, 08:22:19 AM »
A TC is veryimpprtant to stop two teams from colluding. Doesnt happen in real life, or does it...
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Re: Get Rid of the Trade Committee
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2014, 08:52:23 AM »
A TC is veryimpprtant to stop two teams from colluding. Doesnt happen in real life, or does it...

I don't think we need a TC to see if two teams are colluding.  This league is pretty established and we know each other pretty well.  I think we need to just look at the parameters of why a trade should be vetoed or not.
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Re: Get Rid of the Trade Committee
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2014, 08:15:35 PM »
I like the league wide vote idea, just make it happen in a limited period of time so every trade will be processed after the same amount of time. I would suggest a three day window
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Re: Get Rid of the Trade Committee
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2014, 11:59:55 AM »
A side note, in New Era we use a league wide. We have done that for about 2 years now.

The league has 20 members and 5 vetoes kills the trade.

During the offseason it is tough to get votes tho, during the season no real issue.

My only advice would be to have a person designated to send a league pm when I trade is posted
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Re: Get Rid of the Trade Committee
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2014, 12:58:59 PM »
I don't think we need a TC to see if two teams are colluding.  This league is pretty established and we know each other pretty well.  I think we need to just look at the parameters of why a trade should be vetoed or not.

I'm in this boat. Just need to make sure TC understand parameters for vetoing. "You could've gotten more" isn't a good reason. With varying salaries and caps and prospects in a league like this there are a lot of factors to consider other than strictly the talent involved so trades are very specific to a team's roster construction or owner's future plan. So trades should only be vetoed on what looks like extreme negligence or collusion IMO.
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Re: Get Rid of the Trade Committee
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2014, 01:31:44 PM »
I'm in this boat. Just need to make sure TC understand parameters for vetoing. "You could've gotten more" isn't a good reason. With varying salaries and caps and prospects in a league like this there are a lot of factors to consider other than strictly the talent involved so trades are very specific to a team's roster construction or owner's future plan. So trades should only be vetoed on what looks like extreme negligence or collusion IMO.

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