Free Agency Discussion Thread

[ThePetis]

I like the idea, but that opens up the question of how to handle veterans that are signed to minor league deals and when veterans on bad contracts take up a 40-man spot that an owner rightfully would not want there. The rule would have to be hammered out obviously.

Not sure how to handle veterans on minor league deals, but they are only on one-year deals anyway....

For true prospects, once they hit a certain AB or IP threshold, you could start their clocks.  They don't have to be promoted, but there's no longer an incentive to keep them in the minors.

[chrisetc21]

I'd much rather play with people that like to have fun than arrogant pricks like you. Do we need to implement some rules to prevent people from holding guys in the minors? Maybe. It seems like a personal preference thing to me. Calling me out specifically for the way I run my team (and my methods are completely within the rules) shows your inability to make sound judgment in dealing with people/problems. There's a reason 95+% of the people here dislike you. Run your team and I'll run mine. If you think there should should be certain rules in place, you suggest them. You don't post on the public threads that someone is making a mockery of their team. I believe I'm giving myself the best chance to string together multiple championships with this strategy. It's odd that I had signed a couple retired guys several days ago, but you didn't call me out on it until I started bumping some of your guys in FA.

LOL  This is where a picture of a crying child certainly fits. 

So there shouldn't be a rule to prevent people like you from filling a team out to receive zero points for the season?  How about multiple teams filling out their rosters to receive zero points for the season?  You've made little to no effort to fill out your roster, promote players who are MLB ready, or sign free agents.  You are absolutely making a mockery of the competitiveness of your team.  Instead of responding responsibly, like an adult, you resort to personal attacks and boohoo nobody likes you.  Huh?  And somehow my response is due to the fact that you tried to sign a free agent that I bid on despite the fact I've already spent like $75 million in free agency and signed more players than anyone in the league?  That's a brilliant deduction.  If I've been consistent with anything it's promoting the benefit of the league by suggesting improvements and rule changes, many of which have been implemented.  It's laughably paranoid and deluded that you'd believe my post was anything but that and it's even more laughable that I have to defend my motives in pointing out the problem with your tactic when it's clear you're precisely trying to score zero points for the season.   

[Jss0062]

Are y'all really arguing about who is doing a better job of tanking?  Both of your teams are bad on purpose. It's currently within the rules, and a good strategy in real life, though I wonder about in a fantasy league.  These attacks need to end now.

[chrisetc21]

Are y'all really arguing about who is doing a better job of tanking?  Both of your teams are bad on purpose. It's currently within the rules, and a good strategy in real life, though I wonder about in a fantasy league.  These attacks need to end now.

Actually I promoted several players (Yelich, Mercer, Wilson, Sanchez, traded for Capps) to fill out my roster, signed free agents (Bianchi, Izturis), and bid on other MLB free agents to fill out my roster so your characterization isn't entirely accurate.  It's about whether you want multiple teams in a league scoring zero points.  And if there are multiple teams scoring zero points, what is the tiebreaker for the draft?  I could have very easily stashed those players and signed a bunch of retired guys.  That's easy to do if that's the league we want to have. 

[Maydab23]

As far as this bickering, you both are tanking on purpose and following the rules in doing so. Just doing it in different ways while arguing about the morality in each of your methods. Get over it. Stop the attacks. If I was in your positions I would have a strategy somewhere between the two of you.

As far as the real topic here, I don't think this is a problem that needs to be addressed. Real teams hold back prospects all the time for arb clock purposes. Besides, if you delay the arb clock (let's say 3 years) then when your player hits years 4-6 in AFB they would have probably already signed a FA contract in real life for more salary (which would be "previous years" salary used in AFB)

So I don't have a problem delaying prospects because real teams do it and it will only cost you more in salary(in most cases) in years 4-6.

[chrisetc21]

I had zero intention of bickering.  It seems this was a blatantly obvious problem that needed to be addressed but if it's going to be fair game then that's fine.  If I have an question from now on I'll just direct it to the Commissioners.

[mgzd]

Not to belittle the issue, but I have a wife who's pissed off at me 50% of the time, 2 sons in school and a boss who's an a-hole.
This is supposed to be my relief, my enjoyment. How about we all quit the name calling and accusations and just try to arrive at a solution to any issues at hand? State your point and leave it at that. Just my thought on things.

[Fitzy1962]

Why don't we make signing veterans to minor league contracts illegal? Should be that way anyway.

[Fitzy1962]

im with chris on this one.  where is the spirit of the rule?  we can't expect these guys to draft a 5,000 page document to avoid every little angle or loophole.  just my opinion. 

anyway, I have a question re FA contracts: i thought "PC+$50k" contracts were only for prospects.  maybe i am mistaken here, but want to be sure any new bids i put in are correct, since i see some vets being opened up with "PC+$50k".  thanks.

also, are we still on a "6 leading bid" max?

thanks,
  frank-mil

Well said. People looking for the "un-written rule" to break, are simply trying to gain an unfair advantage.