Author Topic: Anaheim and Vancouver make a deal  (Read 1447 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Drew

  • Forum Administrator
  • League Moderator
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2010
  • Posts: 18307
  • Bonus inPoints: 80
  • Forum Administrator
    • :TEN:
    • :BOS-NBA:
    • :EDM:
    • :Clemson:
    • :TOR:
    • View Profile
Re: Anaheim and Vancouver make a deal
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2013, 07:34:53 PM »
As Walt stated I can't justify passing this trade with Enroth as a starter. This would be a package that would bring back a #1 that is a #1 and is near the elite level. Looking back to the Rinne trade that was exactly the package that needed to be received both ways.
 :veto:
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Drew's Bio & Trophy Case



You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. - "Wayne Gretzky"

Tyler

  • Guest
Anaheim and Vancouver make a deal
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2013, 08:32:32 PM »
Ok so

2 yes
2 no

Tony and Hf47 to vote

Will it make a difference to the veto vote of Drew and Favo if I remove a pick?
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline Tony

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2011
  • Posts: 11708
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • I like hockey Eh!
    • :BUF:
    • :Blank:
    • :EDM:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Anaheim and Vancouver make a deal
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2013, 06:24:59 AM »
I hate to veto trades so I will offer a solution instead. This is the way I see it.


:ANA: Cedrick Desjardins, $0.2m (2013-14)
 Round 4 :ANA:
for
:VAN: Nick Bjugstad, $0.2m (2014-15)

Bjugstad still has solid NHL potential and Gilly trades his rights for a goalie that might see some NHL starts and a future prospect in the draft. 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
:ANA: Zach Bogosian, $3.2m (2015-16)
for
:VAN: Niklas Hjalmarsson, $1.4m (2014-15)

Bogosian does have more fantasy upside but is twice the price.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
:ANA: Jhonas Enroth, $1.2m (2014-15)
for
:VAN: Mason Raymond, $2.0m (2013-14)
Round 1 :DAL-NHL2:
Round 1 :MIN-NHL:
Round 2 :VAN:

This is where I see it getting a little one sided and really hurting Vancouver's future. Too many high picks from a team with very little dpth in their minors. Yes he is getting a goalie with great potential but Raymond might put up more points then Enroth this year alone.

I do understand and respect what both sides are doing here and would suggest dropping one of the Round 1 picks. I still consider :ANA: a big winner in this deal but would be passable for me.

Sorry guys just trying to help you guys get this deal done.


 :toast:









funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
:SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL:   2011-12, 2012-13, 2013-14, 2014-15, 2016-17 Backyard NHL Stanley Cup Champion :CHI-NHL:

 2013-14  NHL Invitational Stanley Cup Champion :PIT-NHL:

Tyler

  • Guest
Re: Anaheim and Vancouver make a deal
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2013, 08:04:29 AM »
I respect all of you and your opinions. You're all great hockey guys and you all know I wouldn't try to bully someone into a deal or try to win a deal in a landslide.

I respect this league too much to try and pull a fast one, I truly thought this was a fair deal, and sincerely still do, BUT, it's easy to think that when you are in a  trade.

I am willing to drop a 1st round pick from this deal, of Gilly's choice and still give him this package if it would make it better for all in the TC.

I don't love that, as I think it makes it a little more offside, but I am certainly willing to do it so Gilly gets a Goalie, Top pairing Dman, Good Goalie spec AND keeps a 1st rounder to help build off of.

I appreciate all you guys have to say, and appreciate the explanations rather than just VETO.

Please throw out your thoughts if i surrender the extra 1st rounder.

Thanks.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline favo_zomg

  • MVP
  • ****
  • Join Date: Feb 2011
  • Posts: 3042
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :PHI-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Anaheim and Vancouver make a deal
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2013, 09:15:29 AM »
I would be happier with the deal if you cut a first and either downgraded the 2 nd (which if van continues to play this way, could net a late first round player in the real NHL draft) to a 3 rd or you upgrade your 4 th to a 3 rd. I still do not believe enroth is worth as much as you want for him because of his current situation. But the revised package I proposed feels like fair value to me.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

 

Forum Search


Quick Profile

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

* Chat Room

Refresh History
  • Daddy: In what sport? I aint creating water polo or luge LIVE
    Today at 01:13:30 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: Any
    Today at 01:13:52 AM
  • Daddy: Wont be no pickleball or billiards. All you gonna do is receive foots.
    Today at 01:14:13 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: Not any NHL rebuilding. MLB I'm pretty much up there. NFL I can repeat. NBA im ready for it
    Today at 01:14:55 AM
  • Daddy: I got a special boot. For datass this football season.
    Today at 01:14:59 AM
  • indiansnation: Bayareaballers pm
    Today at 01:15:00 AM
  • Daddy: I call it Bruce
    Today at 01:15:15 AM
  • Daddy: Im gonna put Bruce all in datass
    Today at 01:15:29 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: LMAOOO daddy you an I will bicker talk Crap it won't phase me
    Today at 01:16:48 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: I will continue to fit
    Today at 01:17:01 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: Brian replied
    Today at 01:17:08 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: *fight
    Today at 01:17:19 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: Brian you can post
    Today at 01:17:45 AM
  • Daddy: And whats this Im rebuilding in Hockey crap? Oh noooooo bruh. Im gonna rebuild this foot in that shiney hiney there as well.
    Today at 01:17:46 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: Bruh I am tearing my team down for a reason
    Today at 01:18:27 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: Trust me I will do work in draft
    Today at 01:18:52 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: And get this team to where I Wanna go in due time
    Today at 01:19:10 AM
  • Daddy: I got my reasons too. Forgive me for what my fantasy teams do.
    Today at 01:19:41 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: yeah ik u a tough out
    Today at 01:21:52 AM
  • Daddy: Thats why i want it to be a fair fight and the best guys doing it.
    Today at 01:24:09 AM
  • Daddy: If you had the best guys on Earth all take evenly matched teams and took all handcuffs off, who would be left standing?
    Today at 01:25:09 AM
  • Daddy: We eliminate all excuses
    Today at 01:25:21 AM
  • Daddy: SS no excuse, fantrax no excuse, non active gms no excuse, i gets rid of dead weight. Fukm
    Today at 01:26:05 AM
  • Daddy: Dont have money no excuse, dont have time no excuse, the league sux..... Nope. They dont. No excuse.
    Today at 01:27:11 AM
  • Daddy: Nobody holding you back
    Today at 01:27:31 AM
  • indiansnation: Bayareaballers trade posted in NHL live
    Today at 01:27:33 AM
  • Daddy: But you
    Today at 01:27:45 AM
  • indiansnation: Hey when will NBA live be up and running daddy
    Today at 01:28:20 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: im replying to it thx Brian
    Today at 01:28:52 AM
  • Daddy: Its a lot of work Brian but there is soooo mich excitement for it im trying to get started to be done by the upcoming season.
    Today at 01:29:39 AM
  • Daddy: I believe we will be ready by September/October
    Today at 01:30:14 AM
  • Daddy: We usually exceed my expectations
    Today at 01:30:32 AM
  • indiansnation: Just asking once its done u won't know what to do after all the live leagues our done
    Today at 01:32:59 AM
  • Daddy: Run my team. Just like you.
    Today at 01:44:21 AM
  • Daddy: Corey had the right idea but did it wrong. So much of it was fake. League rules were impeding league success and ability to achieve growth. Even back then things were tooooo sloowwww. I would wait a week before a FA was added to my team. Two weeks before added to my SS.
    Today at 01:46:52 AM
  • Daddy: You know how many fuqn moves i make in 2 weeks? Its my fault im busy somehow? Thats a bad thing?
    Today at 01:47:41 AM
  • Daddy: We gambling, playing for money, im waiting two weeks for a SS update? Daduq!!!?!!
    Today at 01:48:45 AM
  • Daddy: Fuq!!!
    Today at 01:48:58 AM
  • Daddy: You fuqn kidding me? Im doing the same Crap on another site. Playing for money
    Today at 01:49:33 AM
  • Daddy: Got no clue how much cap i really got. He got guys on my SS been gone a month. Thats the product? AND IM PAYING A FEE FOR THAT??? DA FUQ!?!?!
    Today at 01:50:32 AM
  • Daddy: And the scoring is corny on top of it
    Today at 01:51:13 AM
  • Daddy: League got ten great teams twenty Crapty ones
    Today at 01:51:36 AM
  • Daddy: FUQ THAT PRODUCT
    Today at 01:51:57 AM
  • Daddy: I tried saying, they asked me if i ever ran a league before (like they all do) so, i stfu and laced up Bruce.
    Today at 01:53:48 AM
  • Daddy: NHL LIVE has been open for one day... Weve got 103 "archived" posts. Meaning fully processed SS & Fantrax.
    Today at 02:30:59 AM
  • Daddy: A dozen trades have been made, Connor McDavid found a new Country to play for.
    Today at 02:32:28 AM
  • Daddy: Let me ask you... What has any other hockey league done in the last 24 hours?
    Today at 02:33:00 AM
  • Daddy: Including the NHL
    Today at 02:33:40 AM
  • Daddy: This LIVE Crap is next level. See for yourself.
    Today at 02:34:21 AM
  • Braves155: Morning LIVE Fanatics
    Today at 09:39:56 AM