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Draft question
« on: November 14, 2015, 01:59:34 PM »
Shouldn't the type B compensation draft picks come after the 2nd round?  I had thought the Type A come after the first round and Type B comes after the 2nd. 
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Re: Draft question
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2015, 02:23:29 PM »
Shouldn't the type B compensation draft picks come after the 2nd round?  I had thought the Type A come after the first round and Type B comes after the 2nd.

We have always had the one Compensatory Round but that is a very good point Chris. I don't completely understand how MLB arrives at their compensation but I do know that they usually(always?) have two Comp. rounds.
If we propose to emulate MLB, this may be something we would want to look into. Thanks for bringing it up
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Re: Draft question
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2015, 02:52:47 PM »
I agree with Papps, I think the MLB has the "B" after round 2.
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Re: Draft question
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2015, 02:53:31 PM »
I'm not exactly sure how it works either but I really appreciate us looking into it for next year. Many thanks for all the hard work you put into this league!!!  :toth: :toth:

The first concern that I would have is that most Type "B" FAs are RP. We have already limited them to the Top 12. Would placing them after Rd.2 de-value them too much?
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Re: Draft question
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2015, 03:03:42 PM »
Good point, it possibly could.
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Re: Draft question
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2015, 03:21:17 PM »
Definitely a good point. Something we can discuss for next year.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Draft question
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2015, 04:43:07 PM »
Shouldn't the type B compensation draft picks come after the 2nd round?  I had thought the Type A come after the first round and Type B comes after the 2nd.

Now that MLB has adopted the concept of teams making "Qualifying Offers" to prospective Free Agents, Type A and Type B designations are gone.  Now, when a player reaches free agency, the team that is going to lose him can offer a qualifying offer that is the average of the previous season's top 125 salaries.  This year it was $15.8m for one year.  The process changed, and for the first time in it's four year existence, three players accepted qualifying offers:  Colby Rasmus, Brett Anderson, and Matt Wieters.

Instead of qualifying offers (QO), we offer a ranked extension scale, however, if we are to mirror MLB, some changes in our draft would need to happen.

*** Top 10 first round picks are protected in MLB, in FGM we protect the top 15 (I could be mistaken). 

*** Under the new MLB CBA, the team signing a QO, loses a first round pick if it's 11-30.  If it's 1-10, they don't give up their 1st round pick, but the next pick after that--which could be the sandwich pick I'll allude to in a bit--or a Round 2 pick, whichever comes first. 

*** The team losing a QO player does not get the 1st Round pick of the team that signed their free agent player, instead they get a "sandwich pick" at the end of the first round (dependent upon the draft slot of the team from which the player comes). 

*** Teams losing free agents do not get two picks for a Type A and one pick for a Type B because those designations are gone.  Instead, they get "one pick" for each QO player lost in the "sandwich round"  that follows the first round.   

*** This year, MLB also adopted a rule that a player who is traded during the season before his free agency does not qualify as a QO player.  Therefore, a team can no longer trade for a player during the season and be compensated with a draft pick if he signs with another team.  For example, if applied to FGM, I traded from Brock Holt during the 2015 season.  Right now, he qualifies as a Type A or a QO player because he was a top 20 OF.  Under new MLB rules, my team, the Giants, would not get a draft pick if he is signed by another team during our Free Agent period because he was gained via trade during the 2015 season.  It basically prohibits compensation for "rental players".

Right now, I think we give up way too much compensation for players lost to free agency and it might be time to change to what MLB has adopted.  This year, we had 42 compensatory picks between 1:15 and 2:1, and I think that is whacked. :doh:
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Re: Draft question
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2015, 04:54:20 PM »
Maybe be just get rid of "B"
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Re: Draft question
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2015, 03:36:52 PM »
Not a fan of the comp picks.  As a rebuilding team and only a 20 man minors the comp picks incredibly diminish my ability to draft and retain talent. 
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Re: Draft question
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2015, 03:57:19 PM »
Not a fan of the comp picks.  As a rebuilding team and only a 20 man minors the comp picks incredibly diminish my ability to draft and retain talent.
We are trying to emulate MLB as closely as possible so doing away with Comp picks is not realistic. A large portion of ours are RP so limiting them to twelve will go a long way toward rectifying the situation. Witness the fact that there were 36 Comp picks this year as opposed to 17 for next year's FYPD.
I like the idea of using the Qualifying Offer adopted by MLB. I think it's something we need to look into
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