Off-Season Rule Discussion

[Drew]

Post anything you wish to discuss here!

[Tony]

Extending the extension period so we know if our players aren't going to retire, go to the KHL, not get an actual NHL contract etc...

[Tony]

- Having 2 or more goalies from same team only counting as 1 towards goalie cap.
-Extensions after actual nhl fa
-Backyard FA starting September 1
-Less draft picks?
-Buyout deadlines?
-expansion?
- backyard Hall of fame as discussed before.
-GMs take all cap when claiming players off waivers (up or down) players get stuck in the minors during the season because nobody gets called up do to the risk of cap hit if claimed
-Letting all gms have access to minor players on fantrax to make their own moves but with restrictions.
-Maybe inforce harsher penlties for teams sitting players.

Is that enough? Haha

Thoughts?

[SlackJack]

Letting all gms have access to minor players on fantrax to make their own moves but with restrictions.

This sounds interesting.

[Drew]

Extending the extension period so we know if our players aren't going to retire, go to the KHL, not get an actual NHL contract etc...

I think the easiest solution to this is the one you suggested is that having extensions begin after free agency. So they would technically follow our Entry Draft.

Thanks for all the suggestions Tony! Others feel free to comment and any we have strong interest in continuing I will separate into their own threads!

- Having 2 or more goalies from same team only counting as 1 towards goalie cap.
This is interesting but it all depends on what goalies you have. If you were favo and having both Detroit's goalies you were happy because at times you didn't know who the starter was. If you have the Rangers goalies, well Rannta was just a saving grace for the days Lundqvist wasn't playing. I think this adds too much value to this situation to add personally. I personally don't want to see this.

-Extensions after actual nhl fa
See above.

-Backyard FA starting September 1
This coincides with the above.

-Less draft picks?
Sorry just not a fan.

-Buyout deadlines?
Is this in regards to clearing space at the end of the year?

-expansion?
Yes. We currently have 16 of our 18 GMs having been here for over a year with the only 2 not at 1 year as trusted GMs in cho and Leatherhelmets. Do we want to talk expansion this year? Or next year? Either way it would be best to decide this year.

- backyard Hall of fame as discussed before.
I'm sure I just posted this somewhere!

-GMs take all cap when claiming players off waivers (up or down) players get stuck in the minors during the season because nobody gets called up do to the risk of cap hit if claimed
Maybe 50% is too much. I don't think it is fair if you make the "mistake" of sending down a player you want on your team. Maybe 75% claiming and 25% original? I original developed the rule using this page:
http://www.litterboxcats.com/2013/10/7/4792782/nhl-waiver-waivers-cba-florida-panthers

-Letting all gms have access to minor players on fantrax to make their own moves but with restrictions.
Any ideas to how this would work, since we have 2 sets of mnors (signed and unsigned). Obviously any unsigned minors couldn't be on the roster without being first signed. How would caps (major and minor) be managed?

-Maybe inforce harsher penlties for teams sitting players.
Yes. This could be something developed further. We will would need to deem what exactly is considered sitting a player or what is a mistake?

[Drew]

Here is what I previously stated about expansion.

Just throwing this out there! I know at least 4-6 highly capable GMs that could and should be in the league and also have interest in the league. Our ownership is also fairly stable and I don't see many stops opening up unless there is unforeseen circumstances. Although this would be very tough on rosters and I would have to look into how the NHL does theirs as we know for a fact, Minny and Nashville were horrible for many years and their expansion picks were more rather to fill a team than compete.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_NHL_Expansion_Draft

My thoughts on specifics would be:
2-4 expansion teams, 2 would be best due to division structure and less strain on rosters. 4 would be good because of competition and max that Fantrax will allow for free (I think)Two teams to be added if expansion were to happen.
Your allowed to protect 16 roster players - 2 goalies max. Don't have to. Each team is allowed to protect a max of either one goaltender, five defensemen, and nine forwards or two goaltenders, three defensemen, and seven forwards. You can protect less if you wish. No team can lose more than 1 goalie via expansion.
10 minor league keepers, and full keepers of 2015 draftees
Expansion draft of 14 rounds of available players any not picked would return to their original teams or back to free agency (minors included)
Expansion team takes on compete contract of selected player from an existing team or compete real life contact if a free agent (with max on years as initial rosters were constructed). 
Expansion teams receive the first picks in the 2016 draft based on finish. Expansion teams enter into a randomizer for draft postion from 1-12 (ahead of 2016 playoff teams). I would need to determine exact percentages for each draft position. Example 10% for 1st, 8% for second and so on.

This could be seen as cap dump, opportunity to get rid of injury prone or old players as not all that bad but I want others thoughts.

[SlackJack]

Buyout deadlines?
Is this in regards to clearing space at the end of the year?

I'd say yes, and yes.

[SlackJack]

-Maybe inforce harsher penlties for teams sitting players.
Yes. This could be something developed further. We will would need to deem what exactly is considered sitting a player or what is a mistake?

I'd say that if we're going to try and curb tanking then we should just remove the incentive to tank altogether. In other words, change the way that draft picks are ranked.

On the flip-side, I'd rather have a GM that actively tries to improve his team by tanking than one that isn't active at all.

[Tony]

I'd say that if we're going to try and curb tanking then we should just remove the incentive to tank altogether. In other words, change the way that draft picks are ranked.

On the flip-side, I'd rather have a GM that actively tries to improve his team by tanking than one that isn't active at all.

maybe we could give all non playoff teams the same odds of picking first. Could also draw for 2nd to 10th.  So the last place team could end up picking 10th. 

[Tony]

Here is what I previously stated about expansion.

Just throwing this out there! I know at least 4-6 highly capable GMs that could and should be in the league and also have interest in the league. Our ownership is also fairly stable and I don't see many stops opening up unless there is unforeseen circumstances. Although this would be very tough on rosters and I would have to look into how the NHL does theirs as we know for a fact, Minny and Nashville were horrible for many years and their expansion picks were more rather to fill a team than compete.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_NHL_Expansion_Draft

My thoughts on specifics would be:
2-4 expansion teams, 2 would be best due to division structure and less strain on rosters. 4 would be good because of competition and max that Fantrax will allow for free (I think)Two teams to be added if expansion were to happen.
Your allowed to protect 16 roster players - 2 goalies max. Don't have to. Each team is allowed to protect a max of either one goaltender, five defensemen, and nine forwards or two goaltenders, three defensemen, and seven forwards. You can protect less if you wish. No team can lose more than 1 goalie via expansion.
10 minor league keepers, and full keepers of 2015 draftees
Expansion draft of 14 rounds of available players any not picked would return to their original teams or back to free agency (minors included)
Expansion team takes on compete contract of selected player from an existing team or compete real life contact if a free agent (with max on years as initial rosters were constructed). 
Expansion teams receive the first picks in the 2016 draft based on finish. Expansion teams enter into a randomizer for draft postion from 1-12 (ahead of 2016 playoff teams). I would need to determine exact percentages for each draft position. Example 10% for 1st, 8% for second and so on.

This could be seen as cap dump, opportunity to get rid of injury prone or old players as not all that bad but I want others thoughts.

i think GMs should get a least a years notice before doing expansion. Imo.