Author Topic: Oriole / Padres TRADE 1/12/22 8:33 pm ET  (Read 433 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline dennymcc23

  • Veteran
  • **
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 574
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :MIN-NFL:
    • :MIN-NBA:
    • :MIN-NHL:
    • :NotreDame:
    • View Profile
Oriole / Padres TRADE 1/12/22 8:33 pm ET
« on: January 12, 2022, 08:47:42 PM »
Baltimore Orioles propose a trade. Normar Mazara ($4m, 2024), Mychal Givens ($3m,2022)
Parker Meadows (spec), Ismael Mena (spec) to San Diego Padres for Michell Tolman (spec).

Orioles will verify transaction.

Orioles trade:
OF Mazara, Nomar, $4m (2024)
RP Givens, Mychal, $3m (2022)
OF Meadows, Parker, $0.5m (P-n/a)   
OF Mena, Ismael, $0.5m (P-n/a)

Padres trade:
CI Tolman, Mitchell, $0.5m (P-n/a)

Note: Padres need to post a rationale for trade, just modify and replace this note.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2022, 10:44:46 PM by Flash »
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline tdtdtd

  • Veteran
  • **
  • Join Date: Oct 2020
  • Posts: 900
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :IND:
    • :IND-NBA:
    • :Blank:
    • :blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Oriole / Padre TRADE
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2022, 09:33:34 PM »
Orioles confirm and will immediately drop Tolman.

Basically I move some of my lesser prospects to clear a little cap space. I don't think Mazara will be a full-time player again to justify his salary and think I can mostly replace Givens' production cheaper in free agency or with my other relievers.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Tanner

Cross-Court Dynasty - OKC Thunder :OKC:
2020-present
Bucket Of Dimes - Boston Celtics
2022-present
Franchise GM - Baltimore Orioles :BAL:
2021-present
Armchair - Tampa Bay Rays :TB:
2021-present

Offline davinci_ascent

  • Rookie
  • *
  • Join Date: Sep 2020
  • Posts: 176
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :SEA-NFL:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :SEA-MLS:
    • :SEA:
    • View Profile
Re: Oriole / Padre TRADE
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2022, 10:26:27 PM »
 :iatp:
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Franchise GM : Seattle Mariners

2021: Franchise GM - Wild Card
2022: Franchise GM - AL Champions

Offline kidd5jersey

  • MVP
  • ****
  • Join Date: Aug 2016
  • Posts: 2544
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Oriole / Padres TRADE 1/12/22 8:33 pm ET
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2022, 03:44:49 AM »
On the fence on this one.... doesn't seem like much is being given
« Last Edit: January 13, 2022, 03:48:01 AM by kidd5jersey »
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline Flash

  • *ProFSL Staff
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2010
  • Posts: 23232
  • Bonus inPoints: 319
    • :SFO:
    • :GS:
    • :SJ:
    • :California:
    • :UnitedStates:
    • :SF:
    • View Profile
Re: Oriole / Padres TRADE 1/12/22 8:33 pm ET
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2022, 04:54:57 AM »
This trade is obviously a salary dump by the Orioles.  I have seen multiple trades in FGM where teams agree to salary dump trades, but it usually is characterized by some assets attached to the unwanted contracts.  But in this trade, I don?t see what the Padres get for taking on two contracts totaling $7.0m.  That?s why I wanted to see the Padres rationale for agreeing to this trade.  Then I could at least look for some way to support it. 

This is not a question of letting a GM run his own team.  That justification is an excuse some rely on when there is no sound reason for one team agreeing to this type of trade.  But let?s look at what the Padres get:

1) An MLB bust in Mazara with a $4.0m (2024) contract.  He?s been released multiple times and is now only organizational depth;

2) An overpriced RP in Givens, who is on an expiring contract, but the Padres could certainly sign a comparable RP in free agency for less money;

3) An underachieving high pick in Meadows who is mired in Class A ball.  He has not developed that upside the Tigers thought he had and has slipped down the prospect rankings every year;

4) Finally, an international prospect who is raw and so far has done little to even warrant a fantasy roster spot in in Means.  He is a light hitting OF with a lot of holes in his game and is barely surviving in low Rookie League level.

I know I am going to leave the league at the end of the season and won?t be around to eat crow if Meadows and Means actually develop into MLB level players, but right now, on its merits, this is a bad trade.

 :veto:
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
🏆 2021 FGM World Series Champion - :SF:
🏆 2017 WCB2 World Series Champion - :SD:
🏆 2021 BSN Football Mt West Champion :UNLV:
🏆 2021 BSN Football Big 10 Champion -  :Nebraska:
🏆 2021 BSN Football Pac-12 Champion :California:

Online indiansnation

  • League Moderator
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2014
  • Posts: 20766
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :CLE-NFL:
    • :CLE-NBA:
    • :CLS:
    • :OhioState:
    • :CLS-MLS:
    • :CLE:
    • View Profile
Re: Oriole / Padres TRADE 1/12/22 8:33 pm ET
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2022, 07:43:14 AM »
This is tough call because of its a salary dump. No one knows for sure if the prospects he is giving up are going to develop or not. I gotta agree with flash on this im ok with dumping bad contracts just send some value spec wise and ill revote on trade.

Veto
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline BHows

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 12545
  • Bonus inPoints: 3
    • :CIN-NFL:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Kentucky:
    • :CIN:
    • View Profile
Re: Oriole / Padres TRADE 1/12/22 8:33 pm ET
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2022, 09:25:56 AM »
It's hard to judge a trade with just one justification so based on what we have I have to veto. Pure salary dump with :SD: getting no meaningful assets in return
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
2022 WCB2 Champions

 

Forum Search


Quick Profile

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

* Chat Room

Refresh History
  • BayAreaBallers: jwalkerjr88 is right
    May 17, 2024, 02:25:49 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: on that u havat trade a bit here and there
    May 17, 2024, 02:25:57 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: although my last draft class and fa class kinda lead me to a run so it can happen
    May 17, 2024, 02:27:21 PM
  • Brent: Yeah, it does help to have a big draft class and available cap.
    May 17, 2024, 02:36:56 PM
  • Brent: I'm contemplating doing a complete tear down in NFL Live and rebuild.  Honestly, I probably should have postered for it to be this season.  I still might, but I would legit need to go into the draft with 3-4 top 10 picks/+ many others.
    May 17, 2024, 02:38:21 PM
  • Brent: postured
    May 17, 2024, 02:38:35 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Yea nailing drafts and some key FAs helps too. But if you remember BAB you traded alvin kamara for the rams 1-7 draft picks. So the extra picks helped you nail the 2023 draft the way you did
    May 17, 2024, 03:13:02 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Its the combination of all three that is required is what im saying
    May 17, 2024, 03:13:31 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: And brent a tear down with you assets would look interesting. Personally i just think you need break one big asset down into 3 good ones and move carr and go from there. But you have an A1 nfl mind so im sure you will nail whatever it is you decide
    May 17, 2024, 03:14:39 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: *your
    May 17, 2024, 03:14:50 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: very good pt yes i did gain lot of capital which propelled me to make more moves from that trade
    May 17, 2024, 03:34:25 PM
  • Brent: Thank you.  Yes, I agree.  I do need to break one asset down to 3.  I did that with JJ, went from S tier to 2 A tiers.  Now I need to potentially go from an A tier to 3 Bs or something like that.  I've had some inquiries on Carr, but nothing worth moving him.
    May 17, 2024, 03:48:17 PM
  • Alpha5: Guarantee I know who he traded Kamara to for 1-7 without even looking
    May 17, 2024, 05:22:42 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: alpha it was a good trade at the time
    May 17, 2024, 05:29:49 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: my team was in the Crapter at that pt
    May 17, 2024, 05:29:58 PM
  • Brent: Who did you draft with the 1st acquired in that trade?
    May 17, 2024, 05:36:34 PM
  • Daddy: Whoever it was, he got six more choices on top of that. The "win win" scenario.
    May 17, 2024, 05:53:04 PM
  • Daddy: At that time i had no RB1. So i traded an entire draft class to get one.
    May 17, 2024, 05:54:10 PM
  • Daddy: SF doubled up his pick haul and went to work, using them in trades & draft return.
    May 17, 2024, 05:54:46 PM
  • Daddy: Then beat me in the NFC Title game.
    May 17, 2024, 05:55:32 PM
  • Daddy: RB is a hard position to nail down. If someone wants to trade me 1-7 for Kamara. Step right up.
    May 17, 2024, 06:02:30 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: I gotta see what I did
    May 17, 2024, 06:05:04 PM
  • Daddy: You got better
    May 17, 2024, 06:13:59 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: i did so many moves trades and draft that i honestly dunno
    May 17, 2024, 06:18:48 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: This is the way
    May 17, 2024, 06:21:33 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: I could teach how I did what I did
    May 17, 2024, 07:33:36 PM
  • STLBlues91: ill be around for a few hours today. Wont be around tomorrow until late
    May 17, 2024, 07:37:07 PM
  • TheGOAT: Thank God that there are 3 really good qb options in the draft. Can't imagine a world with Bo Nix as my frachise qb
    May 17, 2024, 08:12:51 PM
  • TheGOAT: Not that hes bad
    May 17, 2024, 08:13:06 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: think rn my qb room is minshew dobbs wentz
    May 17, 2024, 08:22:37 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: We look forward to your return to the playoffs @Thegoat
    May 17, 2024, 08:22:51 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: You and your brother camw in guns blazing a few years back. The NFC is not the gauntlet the AFC is. Once you make the title game, all bets are off
    May 17, 2024, 08:23:33 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: nfc is still tough
    May 17, 2024, 08:25:23 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: i had a tough road
    May 17, 2024, 08:25:37 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: to get to teh ship lot of good teams i knocked out
    May 17, 2024, 08:25:50 PM
  • Brent: Carr is OTB for those who don't want a rookie.
    Yesterday at 08:17:12 AM
  • Daddy: The NHL LIVE sign up sheet in the bullpen has nearly 87,000 views. Which is insane.
    Yesterday at 11:47:58 AM
  • Daddy: Whats more insane is we still have 3 open teams
    Yesterday at 11:48:37 AM
  • Daddy: NHL LIVE [link] start new, start from today, sign up.
    Yesterday at 11:49:27 AM
  • indiansnation: Who is looking to trade in mlb live?
    Yesterday at 04:19:30 PM
  • Braves155: Sup guys. Will be around rest of afternoon
    Yesterday at 05:42:19 PM
  • dbreer23: Cubs in FGM looking to deal as the rebuild begins. See updated trade block. Thanks!
    Yesterday at 08:34:32 PM
  • ldsjayhawk: Dan PM
    Yesterday at 09:41:36 PM
  • indiansnation: Bayarea pm
    Yesterday at 11:49:06 PM
  • Daddy: Where did all the traffic go? We topped out at less than 170 Guests today at one time.
    Today at 12:04:15 AM
  • Braves155: Responded Brian
    Today at 12:04:57 AM
  • Daddy: When im talkin chit we get about 900 Guests :rofl:
    Today at 12:07:03 AM
  • indiansnation: Bayarea new pm
    Today at 12:22:37 AM
  • indiansnation: I wasnt on lol @daddy
    Today at 12:23:17 AM
  • Daddy: Well its gon up to 183 & we can all use more Brian in our lives.
    Today at 12:26:24 AM