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Re: Need New Scoring System
« Reply #60 on: December 27, 2013, 03:20:23 PM »
I entirely agree, entirely. But why not look at offense as well while we're at it. Better to get all changes in at once than to have to make changes year after year, no?

Yes, I think the entire system should be shifted to a SABR scoring system.  A lot of the stats used are highly team dependent (Wins, Losses, Saves, RBI, etc.)  Fantasy baseball should be about the player on his own merit not if the player produces more because the team around him allows it.
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« Reply #61 on: December 27, 2013, 03:25:55 PM »
I concur. I wish the league were on ottoneu instead of fantrax
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« Reply #62 on: December 27, 2013, 03:29:15 PM »
I'm on board with updating the scoring for 2015.  At this point teams have geared their rosters for the current system so I think it's unfair to change it now.  I think we should stay true to a system that incorporates defense but continues to value players the way actual teams value them, the closer position in particular.
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Re: Need New Scoring System
« Reply #63 on: December 28, 2013, 03:33:09 AM »
This is the point system I use in the league I run.  I'm very, very happy with it.  It doesn't address defense, but I think it is really strong on the offensive side.  As you can see, it was inspired (AKA "stolen") from my favorite website; Fangraphs.


Scoring/Schedules

Offense
At Bat:  -1
Single:  5.6
Double:  8.5
Triple:  11.3
Homerun:  15
Walk:  3
Hit by Pitch:  3
Stolen Base:  1.9
Caught Stealing:  -2.8


Pitching
Inning Pitched:  7.4
Hit Allowed:  -2.6
Walk Allowed:  -3
Hit by Pitch:  -3
Strikeout:  2
Homeruns:  -12.3
Save:  5
Hold:  4


Inspirations:
Hitting:     http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/how-hitting-is-scored-in-ottoneu-fangraphs-points-leagues/

Pitching:   http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/a-new-fantasy-pitching-points-system-proposal/

Here’s how 2013’s season would have looked with this scoring system: http://games.espn.go.com/flb/freeagency?leagueId=278257&teamId=1&seasonId=2013#&seasonId=2013&=undefined&scoringPeriodId=1&view=stats&context=freeagency&version=currSeason&avail=-1
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Need New Scoring System
« Reply #64 on: December 28, 2013, 05:47:39 AM »

This is the point system I use in the league I run.  I'm very, very happy with it.  It doesn't address defense, but I think it is really strong on the offensive side.  As you can see, it was inspired (AKA "stolen") from my favorite website; Fangraphs.
I'm completely on board with this if we can work in defense in some fair way.


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Re: Need New Scoring System
« Reply #65 on: December 28, 2013, 01:52:14 PM »
I'm completely on board with this if we can work in defense in some fair way.


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Agreed on both. I like the Fangraphs-style system and I would agree that including defense would be ideal.
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« Reply #66 on: January 14, 2014, 12:35:26 PM »
I am not reacting here to any specifics in the current scoring system, but just looking at the best players from last season, it seems suspect to me that Anthony Rizzo trumps Mike Trout, and that James Loney is sneaking up right behind the two-time MVP runner-up.
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« Reply #67 on: January 14, 2014, 06:40:04 PM »
I am not reacting here to any specifics in the current scoring system, but just looking at the best players from last season, it seems suspect to me that Anthony Rizzo trumps Mike Trout, and that James Loney is sneaking up right behind the two-time MVP runner-up.

The system is pretty flawed but we're not going to change it for this season since teams have structured their teams to work under this system.  It'd be nice to have a new one in place for 2015 however.  My only problem with the Fangraphs scoring is that it greatly diminishes the closer role which isn't real baseball.  If we can work in defense and fix the scoring for closers then I'm all for it. 
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« Reply #68 on: January 15, 2014, 12:07:54 AM »
We could begin a 3 year phased transition so that everyone can contract and re-sign players appropriately.  Our goal is to have it the way we want it by 2018?  We'd just need to compile a wish list of scoring.
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« Reply #69 on: January 15, 2014, 12:27:04 AM »
We can't wait three years.  The scoring in here is absurdly bad so changing that has to be a priority.  I'd like to do it this year but I just don't think it would be fair to owners.  Making it known now gives all owners a year's warning which I feel is plenty of notice.
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