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Re: Top 10 Least Involved Teams in 2011-12
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2012, 08:57:58 AM »
Pretty sure this was mainly a move by a commissioner to fire up some team and get the boards active. 

I personally dont mind a bit of trash talk, its fun, gets people active, holds some accountable, as long as its within reason.  keep the  :soapbox: out of it. 

I dont really agree with the list as some of the teams have appeared to me as the most active but I think pigs accomplished his goal here.  :toast:
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Re: Top 10 Least Involved Teams in 2011-12
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2012, 10:49:52 AM »
guys, if anyone sees this as a personal "attack" on them... that wasn't the objective ... but before ppl sound off while standing on their soapbox, ask yourself whether you've missed several PMs + failed to answer direct and simple questions addressed to you.

i hope everyone here wants a strong league as much as i do where teams compete the whole yr + are accountable.

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Re: Top 10 Least Involved Teams in 2011-12
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2012, 11:20:21 AM »
Totally agree. Because I chose not sign FA because there was noone there to over spend means Im a bad owner.
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as commissioner of not 6 (as i posted) but 12 leagues (as you corrected in my post) what should a commissioner do about a team that...

-has only 15 of 30 roster spots filled since August 3, 2012
-sitting on $23 Million in available cap (ceiling of 70.3m)
-zero (0) Right Wingers in a league that starts 3 nightly
-all the best RW free agent signed (see FNHL FA Tracker pg)
-and hasnt responded to 2 PMs about participation
-fantrax timestamp shows a date of 04/28/10 12:32PM (not a typo, April 28, 2010)

in all honesty, i would welcome your input on this situation.


BTW, this is likely also the only league that doesn't post a roll-call thread. i'm here often enough to see who's active.  :toast:


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And with topic, the topic about trade offers, we wonder why there is high turnover.

Look no further than this thread.

i'm a little surprised by this comment, Corey.

what's the reason for making this comment? you're associating a post joeshmoe made about negotiating in public with this thread i started about "Least involved teams in 2011-12" ... and commenting about turnover rate?
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Re: Top 10 Least Involved Teams in 2011-12
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2012, 11:50:33 AM »
People are now way too sensitive.  This thread is fine, so wasn't the worst trade thread.  I'm sure other people had worse offers thrown their way and they should have shared them. 

Posting my thread, for clarification, was not an attempt to negotiate in public...I don't negotiate with people who honestly offer deals like that.  The purpose was so teams know not to send me absolutely ridiculous offers that only a ten year old would agree to.  It worked!

But in all reality, people are way way way to sensitive.

Nice article, IMHO, Pigs. 
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Re: Top 10 Least Involved Teams in 2011-12
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2012, 12:02:52 PM »
IMO, sometimes it's better to open the discussion up before the season truly gets underway.

that way we know where the teams + league as a whole stand. :toast:

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Re: Top 10 Least Involved Teams in 2011-12
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2012, 12:12:13 PM »
in the defense of Jonathan, a glut of money in FNHL doesnt really do you any good during our FA unless you are willing to over spend for any average to star players.   I still have lots of money but similar to Brian Burke I refuse to pay the crazy amounts to players.

Had I known , what I know now , I wouldnt have let some of the players I let go to FA , go to FA.

I agree, extending homegrown talent will use up your cap.  That's why I was so sad to see the disaster of dropping players that shouldn't have been.  It really screwed up the Bruins badly. 

That being said, if I have 30m in cap space I should be spending it in an attempt to better my standings.  Otherwise it looks like people are fishing for the top draft picks.

And lastly, wasn't there a salary cap floor?  Is that still in place?
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Re: Top 10 Least Involved Teams in 2011-12
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2012, 12:18:42 PM »
I agree, extending homegrown talent will use up your cap.  That's why I was so sad to see the disaster of dropping players that shouldn't have been.  It really screwed up the Bruins badly. 

That being said, if I have 30m in cap space I should be spending it in an attempt to better my standings.  Otherwise it looks like people are fishing for the top draft picks.

And lastly, wasn't there a salary cap floor?  Is that still in place?

As usual, the rules were messed with, and without thought of how it affected the future.  Salary cap floors are a real thing in the NHL and were one of the best parts of this leagues creation.  If you have floors it keeps owners active too.  I would suggest the league look into putting this rule back on the books. 

Sometimes the rules were best as is.
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