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Re: League Wide Vote- Cash Exchanged On Player's Contract
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2022, 09:48:51 AM »
My primary goal with my vote of #4 $10m net cash exchange is to find a reasonable compromise to save cash exchanges from being eliminated, while also allowing for a competitive league.

I really really want to keep cash exchanges. I am very frustrated with the votes for #5 because I view that as not being reasonable and therefore not being able to beat a head to head vote with no cash exchanges in a final vote. A vote for #5 is essentially a vote for no cash exchanges.

Option #5 of 25% limit of total contract still means a team can trade for stars like Anthony Davis $120m total contract (4 years at $30m) and get him fully paid in the current year. A team can trade for anyone fully paid in the current year as long as their contract is 4 years or more as that is 25%. So a team can trade for Anthony Davis fully paid this year and another star or two fully paid this year, get to $175m+ total cap, then since you can be over the salary cap in future years they can have that same team locked in (assuming all other players also on long term contracts) for the next 3 years after the current one.

25% of total contract also means rebuilding teams looking to trade decent/good players on expensive contracts cannot do so because they are limited to only 25% paid. So they cannot trade the player away or get very little in return. IE: Toronto Raptors traded Norman Powell $11.3m on an expiring contract fully paid to Oklahoma City Thunder last year. Toronto is probably stuck with Norman Powell who doesn't fit the rebuild if there is a 25% limit as the max paid could only be $2.8m (25%) so any team getting him would still have to pay $8.5m. Not many if any teams are making that trade. A net $10m would mean that Powell could go to any number of competitive teams (assuming they didn't have other trades that affected net $10m) at a cost of only $1.3m for the acquiring team as Toronto could pay $10m. If a team had paid on other players they could potentially still get Powell fully paid.

If it comes down to a head to head of no cash exchanges vs. 25% of total contract limit I am reluctantly voting to eliminate cash exchanges as the alternative isn't reasonable. I think others will also vote the same way. I really really want to keep cash exchanges so this is extremely frustrating as I think net $10m can beat no cash exchanges, but $25m net, 25% contract limit, and keeping things the same don't have much of a chance. I think 25% contract limit is even worse than $25m net cash exchange limit as you can still go as high as you want in the current season and have everyone fully paid as long as they are on 4 year or more contracts. Plus then you have more stars and superstars than net $25m would allow and you can keep those players with the total team contract well above the net $25m limit for the next several years.

Everyone is entitled to their vote and to vote however they want. I certainly respect everyone's vote and know people vote differently for their own reasons, but I would consider what the final vote will be when making a vote in this qualifier round to narrow down the options in a future vote. Unwillingness to compromise now means you may get something further from what you want in the end.
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Re: League Wide Vote- Cash Exchanged On Player's Contract
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2022, 12:02:24 PM »
We generally agree with the post above, with the difference that, between option 2 and option 5 (the two most voted options), we prefer option 5. We really do not like removing at all cash exchanges.
In particular, we agree that after the first vote  equally split between no cash and $25m net limit, probably the best solution for the league is something in the middle. The problem is that, in our opinion, option 4 is too much close to having no cash exchange and not attractive for some teams if applied without a phase-out period (a net limit of $25m in 2023, decreasing to $15m from 2024 would be definitely better for us). A combination of option 5 with the addition of a limit for total net cash exchange would be the best solution for us but, considering that options cannot be changed, we confirm vote for option 5
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Re: League Wide Vote- Cash Exchanged On Player's Contract
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2022, 08:20:12 PM »
Orlando Votes Option 5

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Re: League Wide Vote- Cash Exchanged On Player's Contract
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2022, 11:15:34 AM »
Seems option 5 is the best of these, since I don't want cash exchanges to go away
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Re: League Wide Vote- Cash Exchanged On Player's Contract
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2022, 01:20:27 PM »
I vote Option 5. However, I do think there should be a strict cash amt per transaction (Ie 10-12M/player) and an absolute MAX and MIN a team may give and/or receive any given year.

If we go by an ABSOLUTE MAX received/dealt in a season, I propose something along the lines of $50/$40. This way it will enable teams some flexibility in terms of competing/rebuilding, but keeping the competitive balance within the league. I do think much more either way could bring about potential issues, so we will need to discuss limitations if #5 is most popular/voted for.
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Re: League Wide Vote- Cash Exchanged On Player's Contract
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Re: League Wide Vote- Cash Exchanged On Player's Contract
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2022, 06:00:36 PM »
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Re: League Wide Vote- Cash Exchanged On Player's Contract
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2022, 06:28:45 PM »
Option 1
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Re: League Wide Vote- Cash Exchanged On Player's Contract
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2022, 09:01:32 PM »
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Re: League Wide Vote- Cash Exchanged On Player's Contract
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2022, 09:23:16 PM »
Option 5 for :DET-NBA:
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