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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2020, 03:22:39 AM »
I need to think about this one some more... I don’t like changing a fundamental rule like FNHL salary cap alignment with the NHL.  However, I do recall how the Vegas expansion draft gave teams extra cap space and that coupled with a higher cap lead to a poor FA crop.

Is it a big problem... let me sleep on it!

After taking time to reflect on this suggestion, I do have to say it has some merit. If nothing else, I would like to see FNHL take a leadership role where decisions are made for the overall welfare of the league and this could be the type of change that gets our league closer to an even playing field by causing the “haves” in the league to make tough decisions after the expansion draft to get under the cap ceiling.

Either way, this is worth a vote to get official input from all FNHL owners.
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2020, 12:49:04 PM »
After taking time to reflect on this suggestion, I do have to say it has some merit. If nothing else, I would like to see FNHL take a leadership role where decisions are made for the overall welfare of the league and this could be the type of change that gets our league closer to an even playing field by causing the “haves” in the league to make tough decisions after the expansion draft to get under the cap ceiling.

Either way, this is worth a vote to get official input from all FNHL owners.

I'll post a poll and run it for the FNHL standard 30 days.
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2020, 10:22:24 AM »
I'll post a poll and run it for the FNHL standard 30 days.

Didn't mean to give your post a thumbs down, PPG ... I thought it was the poll

First time I had seen this new feature.
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2020, 07:20:11 PM »
Didn't mean to give your post a thumbs down, PPG ... I thought it was the poll

First time I had seen this new feature.

I won't hold it against you - for more than a 1yr. :rofl:
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2020, 06:48:16 PM »
Perhaps consider rolling back the 2021-22 salary cap to below 81.5 million, even below $78.0 million.

WHY?

With FNHL adding the Seattle Kraken for the 2021-22 season, the 32nd team will absorb lots of existing salary.

My understanding is the skater increases this year were to a) keep value current with actual NHL player contracts and b) create the necessary cap tension in this league to allow for a more robust Free Agency annually.

So I think it would be good for our league (FNHL) to reduce, not just maintain the salary cap ceiling if we want to create some proper player movement and incent owners toward making more transactions.

Full disclosure, my Habs are going to easily need WAY MORE cap space starting now through next year so this recommendation does NOT benefit my team at all - in fact it will negatively impact my Habs.
Hope everyone's seeing the value of this upcoming cap ceiling rollback.

FNHL free agency this year is looking bleak. That means the rich stay rich and the poor stay put in the league cellar. A polarized league is not exiting long term.

We all want to see teams able to rebuild on the fly and top teams feel the financial pressure of keeping their top players year over year. And more importantly, we want strong league wide competition for the big prize year after year. :win::win::win:
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2020, 11:19:19 PM »
Hope everyone's seeing the value of this upcoming cap ceiling rollback.

FNHL free agency this year is looking bleak. That means the rich stay rich and the poor stay put in the league cellar. A polarized league is not exiting long term.

We all want to see teams able to rebuild on the fly and top teams feel the financial pressure of keeping their top players year over year. And more importantly, we want strong league wide competition for the big prize year after year. :win::win::win:

:iatp::iatp::iatp::winner:
Hindsight is 20/20 and looking back, it really does make sense now that the gates have opened on free agency and there are few to no decent players hitting the market. I would speculate the teams that voted against the cap roll back have a high number of extensions to consider towards the end of this season.

Good decision to roll back by a clear majority of the league's owners. :winner:
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2020, 03:31:01 PM »
Perhaps consider rolling back the 2021-22 salary cap to below 81.5 million, even below $78.0 million.

WHY?

With FNHL adding the Seattle Kraken for the 2021-22 season, the 32nd team will absorb lots of existing salary.

My understanding is the skater increases this year were to a) keep value current with actual NHL player contracts and b) create the necessary cap tension in this league to allow for a more robust Free Agency annually.

So I think it would be good for our league (FNHL) to reduce, not just maintain the salary cap ceiling if we want to create some proper player movement and incent owners toward making more transactions.

Full disclosure, my Habs are going to easily need WAY MORE cap space starting now through next year so this recommendation does NOT benefit my team at all - in fact it will negatively impact my Habs.
:MON-NHL: has a ton to lose because of this initiative so good for you Morty for initiating this discussion!!!

Making the league better means we all enjoy a better fantasy hockey experience. :judge::winner::toast:
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2020, 09:30:10 PM »
:MON-NHL: has a ton to lose because of this initiative so good for you Morty for initiating this discussion!!!

Making the league better means we all enjoy a better fantasy hockey experience. :judge::winner::toast:
:thumbsup::thumbsup::iatp: I think it'll be good longrun. :thumbsup:
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2020, 06:09:58 PM »
:MON-NHL: has a ton to lose because of this initiative so good for you Morty for initiating this discussion!!!

Making the league better means we all enjoy a better fantasy hockey experience. :judge::winner::toast:

I agree good watching out for competition. We need more ways to fuel rebuilding.

Mathematically we have overloaded the scale w 150m coming off via this vote and 300m in player salary increases and then Seattle will eat another 75. We were at maybe 350 headed into FA...  maybe this is the sweet spot to force more FAs
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2020, 06:58:31 PM »
:MON-NHL: has a ton to lose because of this initiative so good for you Morty for initiating this discussion!!!

Making the league better means we all enjoy a better fantasy hockey experience. :judge::winner::toast:
:iatp: Thanks man. If I'm going to invest my time here, this league might as well be the best damn league it possibly can be for all of us and longterm.
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