Nationals/Reds Trade

[Tarheels55]

Trades

OF Jones, Adam, $5m (2015) $5m     
OF Ozuna, Marcell, $0.5m (P-2016) $0.5m $0.5m
SP Lively, Ben, $0.5m (P-n/a) $0.5m $0.5m $0.5m $0.5m $0.5m $0.5m

Trades

MI-OF Ackley, Dustin, $4m (2017) $4m $4m $4m
MI Ramirez, Jose, $0.5m (P-n/a) $0.5m $0.5m $0.5m $0.5m $0.5m $0.5m
OF Jay, Jon, $4m (2018) $4m $4m $4m $4m
SP Minor, Mike, $4m (2018) $4m $4m $4m $4m

I really like and needed Ackley as I think he will turn it around this season and Ramirez is a young player that I like also.Jay I think will be a better player this year and help me out.Jones is a good player but I don't think he can help me all that much this season and he will be a tough resign.I like Ozuna but would rather have the players I'm getting in return.Minor will help my pitching staff.

[jblum]

Reds approve. We really like the cheaper players we are getting

[papps]

 

[Corey]

Adam Jones - 34th Overall OF
Ozuna - 38th overall OF

Total of 4300+

Ackley 1200
Jay 1800
Minor 1000

I dont see this. Points are equal at best. JI understand getting young players, but hard to imagine getting young players by giving up young players who are better and out produce the ones you are getting in return.

[Flash]

While I realize one of my fellow TC members has an issue with vetoes, I don't understand the merits of this trade.

Adam Jones was the 34th ranked OF last season, the highest ranked player in the trade, and the reason for trading him is he won't help that much this season?  As for being a tough re-sign, his extension would be $2.5m more than his present contract, yet, with this trade, Washington is taking on an additional $6.5m in salary cap.

Ozuna was the 38th ranked OF this past season and is a (P-2016), which means he can be re-signed below market value for two more seasons.

Ackley is no longer MI eligible, so Washington essentially trades OFs that are ranked 34 and 38 for OFs who are ranked 49 and 77.  I realize Minor helps his pitching staff, but his $4.0m contract is not very friendly for a team with limited cap space considering he is ranked 114. 

I don't think Ramirez's upside is enough to justify the merits of this trade.

 

Edit:  Remove redundant phrase repeat

[Tarheels55]

Adam Jones - 34th Overall OF
Ozuna - 38th overall OF

Total of 4300+

Ackley 1200
Jay 1800
Minor 1000

I dont see this. Points are equal at best. JI understand getting young players, but hard to imagine getting young players by giving up young players who are better and out produce the ones you are getting in return.

I think Ackley Jay and Minor will all outscore Ozuna and Jones IMO,Thats how we win with points.

[NickF]

 

i'm ok with this trade

[OUDAN]

 

[Tarheels55]

Explain please

[OUDAN]

Adam Jones - 34th Overall OF
Ozuna - 38th overall OF

Total of 4300+

Ackley 1200
Jay 1800
Minor 1000

I dont see this. Points are equal at best. JI understand getting young players, but hard to imagine getting young players by giving up young players who are better and out produce the ones you are getting in return.