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« on: June 11, 2011, 05:19:08 PM »
The posting of a points disparity as an argument for why a trade is good might be good in theory, but it only works if you also account for the points lost by the players that must be taken out of the lineup in order for the owner to receive the benefit of having those new players on his club. Besides, we all know that there is more to a players value than just points, a favorable long-term contract for example.
And I never attacked your character I just made an observation based on the two deals and the subsequent arguments that followed. In my opinion, which I am allowed to have, there is a direct correlation between the two, not because of the deals themselves but the similarities in the circumstances surrounding them. I think if you are willing to apply your lens to one deal and not another because you are involved in one of them that is hypocritical. That is where my observation comes from. I have no axe to grind with anyone and I have no personal agenda at stake, I just want consistency in behavior.
 good to know im not the only one, seems kinda weird a lot of people think the TC isnt being consistent if it was just me it would be one thing but its more then just me
1442
« on: June 11, 2011, 04:24:00 PM »
quote author=KDoc09 link=topic=23438.msg118990#msg118990 date=1307820127] I know I am not on the TC but I have to say this whole thing STINKS. For Howe to come out and bash another deal (rightly so in my opinion) under the guise of the new Rox owner not being familiar with the setup of the league and then going forward and making a deal with him under similar circumstances is extremely hypocritical IMO a tad bit shady. I also think this is a stark reminder of why owners should not be allowed to switch franchises in the first place, especially one who has been around as long as Howe. He obviously became attached to some of his players and he knows how valuable some of them are in this format and as a result he's targeted them from an owner who may or may not be entirely familiar with the league; a judgment I will not make, instead I will leave it up to the owner himself to decide if he is comfortable enough in the scoring and structure of the league to begin making moves. Aside from the fact that I personally think the deal is (a 4-letter word I will not type) for the new COL GM to speak out against one deal while making one of your own with the same owner under similar circumstances seems a little wrong to me. [/quote]
1443
« on: June 11, 2011, 04:03:18 PM »
I am ok with the trade veoted because of the 2 weeks rule. But to veto this deal because it's comparable in anyway to the Greinke/Pedroia deal is an insult. I appreciate Ben's impartial judgement in these posts. I wish some of the others could do the same.
i would do the same IF my trade was treated fairly i will be back later after i decide whether or not i can be aprt of a league that isnt always done the same
1444
« on: June 11, 2011, 03:58:27 PM »
Yes, the TC tried to make sure he understood our league and when he did he realized this would be a bad trade. If he still wanted it to go through it would have, no one was going to stand in the way. Good job by the TC, time to stop cursing at them.
sorry for the cursing but if the tulo deal doesnt get vetoed and mine did there will be a huge problem
1445
« on: June 11, 2011, 03:56:22 PM »
Not only a top 3 MI but 5m for 2014. Ive said my peace, let a member learn the league before we take advantage.
Totally agree. When I joined I couldnt make a move for 2 weeks. Then i had about 10 days until the trade deadline. But in those two weeks I probably asked Jake and Colby 3 times a day something about the rules to fully understand the concept of the league. We need to actually implement the rules.
and myself i have asked corey a lot of questions and he has been great about explaining.
1446
« on: June 11, 2011, 03:53:39 PM »
mainly he doesnt have the cap room to resign all the guys plus bruce! not gonna lie bud u pointed out all kinds of Crap on my trade but its completly ok with u the guy who left the rockies gets a top 5 MI for not a lot. interesting 
1447
« on: June 11, 2011, 03:48:18 PM »
You're out of line here ... it is the responsibility of the TC to protect new members from making bad trades because they don't understand our complex rules. I believe they all stated they would not veto, but they wanted Reid to confirm he understood what he was doing before they allowed it. Had Reid said yes, the trade would have gone through. This is absolutely the TC's job, and consistent with how they have treated similar trades in the past.
just weird he loved the trade last night and allof the bull Crap comments that were made made him second guess himself. forget it its done and over but like i said worse trades have went through maybe i am outta line but he and i talked all day yesterday and were fine til u all started tryin to sell him on the other side of the deal.
1448
« on: June 11, 2011, 03:43:37 PM »
You're jumping the gun here as no one from the TC has commented yet one way or another, and Howe mentioned in the opening post that he expects some scrutiny. I realize you're a bit frustrated, but you need to take a step back and undertand that the TC is composed of veteran league members who volunteer for the benefit of our league - they are not out to get you...
the problem as i have stated is dealslike mine have went through and all the sudden mine cant. u have no clue how irritated i am right now sorry just need to vent i guess just ignore me
1449
« on: June 11, 2011, 03:41:08 PM »
to late now, thanks guys 
1450
« on: June 11, 2011, 03:37:36 PM »
i disagree i have seen trade like this one go through in the month or so i have been on here. it seems to me its all about who gets what they want as to if the veto it sorry guess i just need to vent since guru and i were BOTH happy with this deal
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