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Re: IR
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2011, 01:28:32 PM »
I am all for a IR room now that my team has 5 injuries with Ovechkin going down
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Re: IR
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2011, 09:40:20 PM »
Proposed Rule:?

1 IR Spot - There will be 1 IR spot for any player whose injury will be greater then 1 month in length. 1 player can be called up from the minors without going the re-entry waiver system but when sending the player back down they must go through send down waivers.
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1 player can be signed as a IR replacement from free agency. Once an IR replacement has been signed, they now enter into an IR contract, that will last until the IR has recovered enough to re-join his respective team in competition. Then the IR contract expires and the player can then be re-signed to an extension by the GM or released back to free agency.

Stipulation:
The player being recalled or going on IR contract must have a salary less then or equal to the player being put on IR.
Example
Sidney Crosby get put on IR his contract value is 8.7m therefore you can resign or call up a player up to that contract value. So say I have Crosby then put him on IR and I have Thornton in my minors. I can therefore recall Thornton to cover Crosby's spot until such time that Crosby returns from injury. Or I can sign a player in free agency up to 8.7m then designate them onto an IR contract.
Changes to this:
A player expected to miss at least 10 games and 24 days due to injury can be listed as a long-term injury (LTI).

Any changes need, let's stick with this rule as the baseline and make adjustments to it.
Like for example instead of being sent down as normal, through waivers, they could be dropped down free (which will not happen)
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Re: IR
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2011, 08:29:22 AM »
How about this:
-when you put a player on injury reserve he is done for the year, but you can bring a player  straight from your minor league team without going through re-entry or sign a free agent. We only play 15 players each day on a 25  man roster so that gives us at least 5 extra player even if a team has 5 goalies. Maybe the players salary would not count towards the cap after being placed on injury reserve or the team is responsible for half? Injuries are part of the game.
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Re: IR
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2011, 03:10:24 PM »
Changes to this:
A player expected to miss at least 10 games and 24 days due to injury can be listed as a long-term injury (LTI).

Any changes need, let's stick with this rule as the baseline and make adjustments to it.
Like for example instead of being sent down as normal, through waivers, they could be dropped down free (which will not happen)

Drew I agree with the IR rule, however I am trying to understand what you are trying to say. The words in bold ??
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Re: IR
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2011, 03:32:55 PM »
Drew I agree with the IR rule, however I am trying to understand what you are trying to say. The words in bold ??
Just make adjustments to the rule proposed in question, no more proposing new IR rules but just make changes/edits to the proposed rule. Like for example in the proposed rule below:

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Proposed Rule:?

1 IR Spot - There will be 1 IR spot for any player whose injury will be greater then 1 month in length. 1 player can be called up from the minors without going the re-entry waiver system but when sending the player back down they must go through waivers (Instead put they do not have to go done through waivers).
or
1 player can be signed as a IR replacement from free agency. Once an IR replacement has been signed, they now enter into an IR contract, that will last until the IR has recovered enough to re-join his respective team in competition. Then the IR contract expires and the player can then be re-signed to an extension by the GM or released back to free agency.

Stipulation:
The player being recalled or going on IR contract must have a salary less then or equal to the player being put on IR.
Example
Sidney Crosby get put on IR his contract value is 8.7m therefore you can resign or call up a player up to that contract value. So say I have Crosby then put him on IR and I have Thornton in my minors. I can therefore recall Thornton to cover Crosby's spot until such time that Crosby returns from injury. Or I can sign a player in free agency up to 8.7m then designate them onto an IR contract.

Or make additions to the rule but use it as a baseline for the IR Rule.
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Re: IR
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2011, 03:36:55 PM »
Just make adjustments to the rule proposed in question, no more proposing new IR rules but just make changes/edits to the proposed rule. Like for example in the proposed rule below:

Or make additions to the rule but use it as a baseline for the IR Rule.

Ok agreed, should the rule be processed?
« Last Edit: March 29, 2011, 04:54:14 PM by cho34 »
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Re: IR
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2011, 04:06:21 PM »
Ok agreed, should the rule processed?
Just need approvals or more discussion whichever.
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Re: IR
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2011, 11:14:14 PM »
I like the 10 games or 24 days as the length, I don't think we should lose someone all year if they break a bone in the preseason and I think we should be able to replace him. I would like to see us to be able to call someone up and send them down without going through waivers. To make it fair I am thinking that the player that was called up to cover for an injury must be sent down as soon as the injured player plays his first game back. Then the player has to go through waivers. When a player is signed from free agency they must be placed in the minors or be released to free agency ( for free) within 24 hours of the injured player playing his first game back after injury. Thats my opinion
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Re: IR
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2011, 02:30:10 AM »
I like the 10 games or 24 days as the length, I don't think we should lose someone all year if they break a bone in the preseason and I think we should be able to replace him. I would like to see us to be able to call someone up and send them down without going through waivers. To make it fair I am thinking that the player that was called up to cover for an injury must be sent down as soon as the injured player plays his first game back. Then the player has to go through waivers. When a player is signed from free agency they must be placed in the minors or be released to free agency ( for free) within 24 hours of the injured player playing his first game back after injury. Thats my opinion
But you see my problem with that is I could maintain Cammy in the minors or any player and only call them up in case of an injury and basically have a free player to cover my ass if another player gets hurt and also save myself 6m in cap room. Now with 2 way contracts I could see this being easier.
It says in the CBA agreement posted early that players (plural) can be brought in to cover an IR player, so what I propose is in the case of calling up players is, you can call up players from your minors (be them on 1 or 2 way contracts) up to the cap hit of the injured player. But you still can't exceed the 25 player limit and the IR player doesn't effect your roster size and you can call up multiple players to cover a player. 1 way contracts still have to go through waivers down, 2 way are free obviously.
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Re: IR
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2011, 03:56:43 AM »
I think that we should be able to have multiple people on IR, if they are injured for a long period of time why should teams be forced to keep them on their main roster just because we already have 1 player on IR. Some teams have 5 or so players injured on their team and if even 3 of them are going to be injured for long periods of time then that is going to severely hurt his chances of winning games.

Also I don't like that teams will have a special IR player, right now as it is teams are capped out and have 3-4 players in their minor league list with 2-3 years left on their contracts, players worth 5-6 mil just sitting there being bench warmers and used as tokens when trying to make trades. These should be the players you guys are bringing up, they aren't doing anyone any good down there right now and this would give teams reasons to have two-way players and players in the minors worth that much more. Even if you are afraid of them getting picked up off waivers how many teams are going to have 5-6 mil cap room to be picking up players left and right when teams are getting injured players. Even right now they are just your backups anyways you shouldn't be that worried about losing them as you will probably be able to sign players just as good again in the FA market once the season ends again anyways. This will make two-way players, draft picks, minor league spots, and those guys you have as bench warmers worth that much more which is something I would like to see. It would also give teams chances to claim them instead of them just sitting on your bench for the next two years.

 
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