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Re: IR
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2011, 02:37:13 PM »
Here are a couple things straight from the CBA:

Counting the Cap:

Team salary expenditures are calculated on a daily basis from the first day to the final day of the NHL regular season.
A team is in compliance if it has not already exceeded the cap for the season, and if it could carry its current roster without exceeding the cap at the end of the season.

Counted against the cap: All players on the active roster, injured reserve or the long-term injured list. Players who have left the team on a contract buyout, according to a formula that charges a percentage of the buyout against the cap.

Not counted against the cap?: Players assigned to the minors or returned to junior hockey after signing an NHL contract.


Long-Term Injuries:
A player expected to miss at least 10 games and 24 days due to injury can be listed as a long-term injury (LTI).

An LTI can be covered by replacement players, as long as the replacement salaries do not exceed the salary of the injured player.

If the replacement salaries would push a team over the salary cap, the team is allowed cap relief, but only for the portion of the salary that exceeds the cap.

When the injured player returns, the team must immediately comply with the normal terms of the salary cap.
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Re: IR
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2011, 11:27:04 AM »
I agree with the rule, however most of the players covering injured players in the real NHL are players with 2 way contracts and that is how the teams are protecting their players isn't it. Of course if your player is like a Purcell who has the right to have a 1 way contract then it is the franchise's fault for sending him down and losing him after being recalled as an emergency call up

Isnt their a way to determine which player gets 2 way contract, as the real NHL have a way of doing this right

I dont know if I wrote it right just a few things in my head when I read the thread
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Re: IR
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2011, 11:37:54 AM »
What if a two-way contract for experienced players cost you 1M in salary?

For example: I sign Horton Hoo from Hooville to a 2 year, 1M deal to cover for one of my injured guys. Knowing I will need him to travel back and forth, I give him a 2 way option worth 1M.

It would be on our roster pages as:

Horton Hoo 2 way 1M (2M cap hit) (2011-12)

This way, we can protect our players, but it will come with an additional cost (aka salary).
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Re: IR
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2011, 11:41:06 AM »
Also, the "you cannot give extensions to experienced players in your minor league team" will still apply to these players. And you cannot offer a 2 way deal on an extension.

This will keep these players cycling on a semi-regular basis.
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Re: IR
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2011, 02:18:46 PM »
Also, the "you cannot give extensions to experienced players in your minor league team" will still apply to these players. And you cannot offer a 2 way deal on an extension.

This will keep these players cycling on a semi-regular basis.
Yes this will still apply but since they are on 2 way contracts they can be called up and signed to a contract easily avoiding the minors signing contract rule. Also 2 way contracts can be put on extensions as long as the player has not reached 40 games played yet, so follow the extensions/draft amounts then apply a 2 way contract.
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Re: IR
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2011, 02:23:47 PM »
Yes this will still apply but since they are on 2 way contracts they can be called up and signed to a contract easily avoiding the minors signing contract rule. Also 2 way contracts can be put on extensions as long as the player has not reached 40 games played yet, so follow the extensions/draft amounts then apply a 2 way contract.

I think you missed my previous post... I was talking about signing free agents to 2 way deals, not minor leaguers. This would help with the concern people have with losing their IR replacements when they try to call the player up/send him down AND putting a price to the protection.
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Re: IR
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2011, 02:33:52 PM »
I think you missed my previous post... I was talking about signing free agents to 2 way deals, not minor leaguers. This would help with the concern people have with losing their IR replacements when they try to call the player up/send him down AND putting a price to the protection.
Yes sorry I missed that post.
Ya but you do not have to call people up from your minors either because you could also sign someone in free agency to cover then release them once your player is coming back from injury. People have depth in the minor leagues like for me Cammy and say CHI Iginla that they could call up during this time and when they are sent down because a team can't afford them anyway and most teams can't afford to pick them up so they would go down. If Purcell is having a career year and someone is scared to lose him by sending him down, you could send down a different player to clear room. Also now with the rule of 2 way contracts people will be able to bring up young guys like the do in the NHL then send them down once the injured player is returning.
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Re: IR
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2011, 02:54:50 PM »
Yes sorry I missed that post.
Ya but you do not have to call people up from your minors either because you could also sign someone in free agency to cover then release them once your player is coming back from injury. People have depth in the minor leagues like for me Cammy and say CHI Iginla that they could call up during this time and when they are sent down because a team can't afford them anyway and most teams can't afford to pick them up so they would go down. If Purcell is having a career year and someone is scared to lose him by sending him down, you could send down a different player to clear room. Also now with the rule of 2 way contracts people will be able to bring up young guys like the do in the NHL then send them down once the injured player is returning.

So in your example (with Cammy), if Fisher gets injured, you can call up Cammy despite the fact that his contract will put you over budget?

I honestly like the idea of giving free agents two way contracts as long as we establish the fact that you cannot attach or keep a two way contract with a player's extension. It gives a team the extra protection that they will like when it comes to sending players down/bringing up players without running into cap problems.
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Re: IR
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2011, 03:08:56 PM »
So in your example (with Cammy), if Fisher gets injured, you can call up Cammy despite the fact that his contract will put you over budget?

I honestly like the idea of giving free agents two way contracts as long as we establish the fact that you cannot attach or keep a two way contract with a player's extension. It gives a team the extra protection that they will like when it comes to sending players down/bringing up players without running into cap problems.
But if your going to sign a free agent to a 2 way contract and just send them down to your minors, might as well just release them
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Re: IR
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2011, 03:12:14 PM »
So in your example (with Cammy), if Fisher gets injured, you can call up Cammy despite the fact that his contract will put you over budget?

I honestly like the idea of giving free agents two way contracts as long as we establish the fact that you cannot attach or keep a two way contract with a player's extension. It gives a team the extra protection that they will like when it comes to sending players down/bringing up players without running into cap problems.
No if Fisher got hurt I wouldn't be able to bring up Cammy unless I have the cap room to do so. Fisher 4.2 - Cammy 6.0, so I would have to have 1.8m in cap space to call him up and that would immediately count against the cap.
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