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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2020, 11:32:40 AM »
the draft threads have us doing 7 rounds for prospects and 6 for contraction but our team pages list 7 rounds for both?

Draft picks on team page is rookie picks only.

Correct on 7 rounds for rookies (to minor NHL) but 6 for contraction. Since contraction is just a 1 time draft, only have the picks in the actual contraction draft thread.
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2020, 06:53:05 PM »
I apologize if there’s a waiting list sign up someplace that I didn’t see, but I’d like to be considered.
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2020, 09:23:05 PM »
I apologize if there’s a waiting list sign up someplace that I didn’t see, but I’d like to be considered.

No worries. League is currently full at 16. Should we get an opening I will reachout via PM and let you.
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2020, 10:38:04 AM »
I know it does not say in the RFA rules, but should we have a limit to how many players can be taken from a single team per year?

Real life NHL you never see offer sheets and I've never been in a league that has this feature, so maybe there will not be much activity, but I can see a situation where a team like the Kings in 2-3 years might have 4+ higher end players get nabbed.  Draft picks are all well and good, but then they will just be in a similar situation a few years after that. 



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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2020, 11:37:51 AM »
I know it does not say in the RFA rules, but should we have a limit to how many players can be taken from a single team per year?

Real life NHL you never see offer sheets and I've never been in a league that has this feature, so maybe there will not be much activity, but I can see a situation where a team like the Kings in 2-3 years might have 4+ higher end players get nabbed.  Draft picks are all well and good, but then they will just be in a similar situation a few years after that.

Interesting point, however, with RFA team always has option to match the winning offer so limiting the number seems a little messy. I don't see how to fairly say you can bid on 4 RFA from 1 team but player 5 is untouchable. Having a lot of RFAs same year I guess is part of game so will simply lead to some tough choices.

I'm willing to discuss this further but not sure anything other than allowing all RFA (regardless of number per a team) to enter RFA really makes sense.
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2020, 01:23:11 PM »
I know it does not say in the RFA rules, but should we have a limit to how many players can be taken from a single team per year?

Real life NHL you never see offer sheets and I've never been in a league that has this feature, so maybe there will not be much activity, but I can see a situation where a team like the Kings in 2-3 years might have 4+ higher end players get nabbed.  Draft picks are all well and good, but then they will just be in a similar situation a few years after that.
a team like LA needs to plan ahead for different situations like this. all in managing your team. its not likely any team will have 4 guys as high end RFA at the same time and if they do they should have planed ahead for it. the only change I would consider is maybe a 10% discount if they match the offer
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2020, 01:26:19 PM »
Interesting point, however, with RFA team always has option to match the winning offer so limiting the number seems a little messy. I don't see how to fairly say you can bid on 4 RFA from 1 team but player 5 is untouchable. Having a lot of RFAs same year I guess is part of game so will simply lead to some tough choices.

I'm willing to discuss this further but not sure anything other than allowing all RFA (regardless of number per a team) to enter RFA really makes sense.

Yeah, I might just be over thinking how many offer sheets pour in.  I just didn't like the thought of a team that has been rebuilding for a couple years gets to a point where their good drafting ends up with a bunch of RFAs that turn into more draft picks.  Not a fun cycle.

My thought was to allow all offer sheets that don't involve a 1st round compensation and then cap it at the 1st (2) that would involve a 1st round pick going back to the owner. Any player with 1st round compensation could be paid up to $6.3 million making them at least a top 30 player. Losing more than (2) of those would be rough.

The only thing a team could concretely plan for would be to trade away their RFA to avoid it all together.  Anything outside of that could not be planned for.
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2020, 03:35:16 PM »
Yeah, I might just be over thinking how many offer sheets pour in.  I just didn't like the thought of a team that has been rebuilding for a couple years gets to a point where their good drafting ends up with a bunch of RFAs that turn into more draft picks.  Not a fun cycle.

My thought was to allow all offer sheets that don't involve a 1st round compensation and then cap it at the 1st (2) that would involve a 1st round pick going back to the owner. Any player with 1st round compensation could be paid up to $6.3 million making them at least a top 30 player. Losing more than (2) of those would be rough.

The only thing a team could concretely plan for would be to trade away their RFA to avoid it all together.  Anything outside of that could not be planned for.
the other thing I was thinking maybe the comp should be more at each level but the team can match the offer so its not like we cant plan for that. I have my cap number projected out 4-5 years always, its not totally accurate but it does tell me what kind of impact my signings will have down the road and by projecting future contracts I know where Ill be in trouble and I can do a lot of what if's
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2020, 09:39:21 PM »
Yeah, I might just be over thinking how many offer sheets pour in.  I just didn't like the thought of a team that has been rebuilding for a couple years gets to a point where their good drafting ends up with a bunch of RFAs that turn into more draft picks.  Not a fun cycle.

My thought was to allow all offer sheets that don't involve a 1st round compensation and then cap it at the 1st (2) that would involve a 1st round pick going back to the owner. Any player with 1st round compensation could be paid up to $6.3 million making them at least a top 30 player. Losing more than (2) of those would be rough.

The only thing a team could concretely plan for would be to trade away their RFA to avoid it all together.  Anything outside of that could not be planned for.

I don't think RFA will be that big of a detriment to the league. Its kind of nice that the young players have to go thru it and you could possibly acquire a player you like. I think every team is likely to have a player or two every year going to RFA.

Even if a team has 4 RFA's they might get lucky and have one or two signed to contracts in real life that they can accept and won't go to bidding.

And if all your RFA's go to RFA the compensation should likely keep prices down. We have 16 teams in the league so its not like we can all sign a top RFA every year. bottom 5 teams probably won't want to move a top 5 pick in the rookie draft for just anyone so those teams probably won't go past 4.2m. Top teams might be more willing to but they need to have the cap space and picks to do it. If you trade rookie draft picks it impacts your ability to sign RFA's so some teams might not be able to sign a certain range if they don't have the picks.

I think you are likely to see RFA's get modest two or three year deals because compensation will keep the prices down and then you'll get to resign the player a few years later. Unless a guy like McDavid comes along and then a team might be willing to sell the farm for him and all bets are off.
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2020, 10:04:42 PM »
I don't think RFA will be that big of a detriment to the league. Its kind of nice that the young players have to go thru it and you could possibly acquire a player you like. I think every team is likely to have a player or two every year going to RFA.

Even if a team has 4 RFA's they might get lucky and have one or two signed to contracts in real life that they can accept and won't go to bidding.

And if all your RFA's go to RFA the compensation should likely keep prices down. We have 16 teams in the league so its not like we can all sign a top RFA every year. bottom 5 teams probably won't want to move a top 5 pick in the rookie draft for just anyone so those teams probably won't go past 4.2m. Top teams might be more willing to but they need to have the cap space and picks to do it. If you trade rookie draft picks it impacts your ability to sign RFA's so some teams might not be able to sign a certain range if they don't have the picks.

I think you are likely to see RFA's get modest two or three year deals because compensation will keep the prices down and then you'll get to resign the player a few years later. Unless a guy like McDavid comes along and then a team might be willing to sell the farm for him and all bets are off.

 :iatp: Nice way to summarize things and I would tend to agree.

The great thing for our league is we have 16 GMs with varying building styles. New league and you have several teams (like my Leafs and Vegas) who are going for it now. On the flip side you also have other teams making more long term moves and acquiring draft capital/specs. I'm thinking we have a couple teams emerge as new contenders yearly, when the next set of young guys comes. Older win now teams have to eventually retool.

I do think some RFA moment will happen, but just dont think we really need to change rules.

As a refersher here is current rule:


Draft Pick Compensation: (Actual NHL Compensation Ranges as of Oct.2020)
$1.4m or below = None
$1.5m to $2.1m = Third Round
$2.2m to $4.2m = Second Round
$4.3m to $6.3m = First Round & Third Round
$6.4m to $8.4m = First Round, Second Round, and Third Round
$8.5m to $10.5m = Two First Rounds, Second Round, and Third Round
Over $10.5m = Four First Rounds


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