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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2020, 06:11:14 PM »
I think I found my answer. The 1.3M is not really attached to Kase. It is only a 1.3M extra money added to my cap space so I don't have to consider it in buyout or waiver

Just sent a PM about this but figure I'll share what I am thinking so everyone can see.

Money paid is separate so when doing buyout only consider the original total contract.

In this case what I see you have posted is correct at $0.9m cost rounded.

It's not in rules regarding these cases, but here is an idea that comes to mind that I think would be fair for everyone and can have updated in rules.

Scenario 1: If a player has salary paid over the total buyout cost then the buyout is free but no additional cap saving. So you save the 1.3m on Kase here but not an additional 0.4m (since you were on the book for net salary of only 1.3m to begin with)

Scenario 2: If a player has less money paid than total buyout then only the additional difference is what has to be paid.

Given our setup thinking this is a fair option for everyone but would be open to other input before I finalize decision.
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2020, 06:14:39 PM »
In Free Agency is there a rule regarding the maximum number of concurrent bids a GM may have?

This is a rule that I am personally indifferent about but I think 5 is a number a lot of leagues use (I rarely have money for 5+ guys). As it is written don't see anything and I think we can keep as is with no limit.

The caveat is that team must always have cap space for all bids, so while a bid is active that money is tied up.
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2020, 06:40:51 PM »
Also in regards to free agency when it comes to rookie bidding. Is a signing bonus required or can a GM open the bidding with a straight "RC" bid?

Also, can a GMs bids exceed the number of roster spots they have remaining? I know we can't exceed cap, but it would be nice to bid with the expectation to drop a player upon winning that bid in lieu of having to drop someone in advance and then risk losing the bid.
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2020, 08:10:23 PM »
Also in regards to free agency when it comes to rookie bidding. Is a signing bonus required or can a GM open the bidding with a straight "RC" bid?

Also, can a GMs bids exceed the number of roster spots they have remaining? I know we can't exceed cap, but it would be nice to bid with the expectation to drop a player upon winning that bid in lieu of having to drop someone in advance and then risk losing the bid.

Regular RC bid with no bonus is totally legal.

Also zero issue on bidding over roster spots. Cap is the constraints but if you exceed roster limit you simply need to make room upon winning bid.
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2020, 08:15:43 PM »
Regular RC bid with no bonus is totally legal.

Also zero issue on bidding over roster spots. Cap is the constraints but if you exceed roster limit you simply need to make room upon winning bid.

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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2020, 08:24:35 PM »
Just sent a PM about this but figure I'll share what I am thinking so everyone can see.

Money paid is separate so when doing buyout only consider the original total contract.

In this case what I see you have posted is correct at $0.9m cost rounded.

It's not in rules regarding these cases, but here is an idea that comes to mind that I think would be fair for everyone and can have updated in rules.

Scenario 1: If a player has salary paid over the total buyout cost then the buyout is free but no additional cap saving. So you save the 1.3m on Kase here but not an additional 0.4m (since you were on the book for net salary of only 1.3m to begin with)

Scenario 2: If a player has less money paid than total buyout then only the additional difference is what has to be paid.

Given our setup thinking this is a fair option for everyone but would be open to other input before I finalize decision.

Discussing and giving this more though, I think a better (and simpler) approach is to role with numbers as they are.

Players over 26 require 66% buyout so won't really be savings in majority of cases plus multi years will overcomplicated things and no need to make it more complex than it is.

Barring objections, update decision on buyouts for players with salaries paid is keep this cap saving and buyout is simply total cap hit for a age group against full salary.

In a rare case such as 50% paid and under 26 a small savings might be applied but overall I don't really have an issue with this.

So Kase buyout leads to a net $0.4m saving but most cases will still result in a cap hit.
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2020, 09:42:44 PM »
Next year we should limit number of bids to the number of open roster space we have (NHL/ Minor).
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2020, 10:04:25 PM »
Next year we should limit number of bids to the number of open roster space we have (NHL/ Minor).

Pourquoi?

a) There is never a guarantee GM will win all bid we place
b) The league is set up where bids are non guaranteed
c) Drops and buyout are easy to do to create roster space
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2020, 10:33:30 PM »
Next year we should limit number of bids to the number of open roster space we have (NHL/ Minor).
regardless of open roster spot on our team its GM jobs to manage it, But i agree on limiting the active bids maybe 5, coz the thread is very crowded  :rool: :P , and also i dont agree on the rule of rescinding FA bid, the team that rescinds a bid or dont want to sign a player he won, he should be slap a 90% if not 100% of the players contract as punishment of careless bidding.
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Re: PDH Questions & Answers
« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2020, 11:35:38 PM »
In response:
I'm not sure how how we work things around these part but do we always change written rules when some do not like what is written? I am all for peoples ideas but rule is rules are they not?
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