Author Topic: Rule change Proposal - ARB Extensions  (Read 4182 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline EastCoastGonzo

  • League Moderator
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2019
  • Posts: 6133
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Rule change Proposal - ARB Extensions
« on: January 03, 2024, 01:14:28 PM »
Here is my rule change proposal for extensions. A lot of people have asked about doing extensions for ARB players. The trouble is doing that in a way that it confers a benefit on the manager and is realistic enough to not destroy competitive balance. The proposal:

Once a player has 1 year of Armchair service time, so is beginning a season as an ARB2 player they will eligible for an ARB extension depending on their service time, using the extension table. Examples below:

An ARB2 player can receive: 9 yr extension at 90% of their respective positions extension amount listed on the extension table.

ARB3 / 8 yrs at 95%

ARB4 / 7 yrs at 97%

ARB5 / 6 yrs at 100%

ARB6 / 5 yrs at 110%

FA / up to 5 yrs at x% (extension value determined normally)

So an example. Say you have a pitcher who you believe will be a rockstar, he finishes his rookie season and you decide to take the gamble and lock him up in a monster extension. His extension would be 9yrs / $8,800,000 = 79M. I think it balances the risk and reward correctly. You forego the cost saves of ARB2-3 for cost certainty in the future, and protection against a real life ARB number that may be 15M+ if he really is that good. If he pans out you get an ace for a below market rate, if he doesn't that's the risk you take but it won't be so terrible as to destroy your team.

I think trying to lock up a player right before he goes into FA should be costly, you have to pay them to forgo FA. But for certain teams it would be advantages, if for example the following off-season they would have 3 players eligible for extensions and wanted to keep all three, they could sign one to an above market extension before hand.

Players who receive an ARB Extension would not be eligible to be traded until the trade deadline of year 3 of their extension. So if you were to give a player an extension this off-season he could not be traded until June - August 2026. The rules for a normal FA Extension would not change, you could still trade that player after June 1 of that same year.

Extensions would still be limited to 2 per off-season, including 1 ARB Extension.

The extension years posted are fixed, so you could not do a ARB2 extension for say 4 years, it must be 9.


This rule change may require us to adjust how much or how salary is traded among teams.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2024, 01:31:10 PM by EastCoastGonzo »
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline Shannonlwalker2

  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jan 2020
  • Posts: 1399
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :MIA-NFL:
    • :Blank:
    • :ANA:
    • :Florida:
    • :LAD:
    • View Profile
Re: Rule change Proposal - ARB Extensions
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2024, 02:04:27 PM »
Voted NO:  the competitive balance is already pretty skewed.   There are 10 teams that are good.  10-15 that are pretty lousy ( for 1 reason or another), and 5 teams are floating around mediocrity.  I feel the good managers will just continue to further the divide by locking up the best young talent for years (at significant discounts).  If the this WAS to play out, then I think it would be even harder to keep and find owners for the teams that are so far behind.
 Just conjecture on my part: if we want a truly competitive league. This should probably be tabled until we (the league) can secure descent, active, and consistent managers for all the teams in the league.


funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline EastCoastGonzo

  • League Moderator
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2019
  • Posts: 6133
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Rule change Proposal - ARB Extensions
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2024, 02:08:18 PM »
I hear what you're saying @Shannonlwalker2 but that split you described is pretty much how real MLB is, and I think that means that we are reflecting reality pretty well lol.

But I get what you're saying. I proposed this to try and address something people have been asking for for a couple years. I don't necessarily have a problem waiting to make it happen. Or even adjusting it.

The teams that don't have owners aren't as bad off as they seems anymore they all have average farms. In fact if we're being honest it's some of the owned teams that are way off at the bottom of the league...
funny
0
like
1
dislike
0
No reactions
Members reacted like:
Shannonlwalker2,
No reactions

 

Forum Search


Quick Profile

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

* Chat Room

Refresh History
  • OUDAN: Imagine lying to all of us like that lollll\
    Yesterday at 03:48:54 PM
  • Daddy: Up yours Danno :rofl:
    Yesterday at 04:16:28 PM
  • OUDAN: Hahaha
    Yesterday at 04:22:07 PM
  • Daddy: Takes a certain kind of guy to even do dynasty and unfortunately many of them are.. umm "sensitive" is a good word. I am a lot of personality, but im very good at what i do. I might suck at everything else but in dynasty fantasy i am ELITE.
    Yesterday at 04:29:57 PM
  • Daddy: As both an owner & moderator. It im ok letting you know about it.
    Yesterday at 04:30:41 PM
  • Daddy: Its ok to be diverse. Dont chat
    Yesterday at 04:31:36 PM
  • Daddy: Close the chat and just run your team.
    Yesterday at 04:31:59 PM
  • Daddy: In dynasty fantasy i have the Mamba mentality and there are others like me.
    Yesterday at 04:33:49 PM
  • Daddy: You own a baseball team for ten years and get mad you have to throw 35 innings pitched. In a week. Of baseball. Da fuq? No. Get out. Dont want you.
    Yesterday at 04:36:25 PM
  • Daddy: Fuq u been doing? Try art or some Crap. Take up painting. Ten years you cant field a starting rotation? Da fuq is you illiterate?
    Yesterday at 04:38:27 PM
  • Daddy: PLAYSTATION/XBOX = EA Sports (its in the game! :) )
    Yesterday at 04:40:06 PM
  • Daddy: The rest of you join my big mouth ass and lets play ball.
    Yesterday at 04:41:03 PM
  • Daddy: Hockey fan much [link] NHL LIVE is fantasy hockey on illegal substances. Just like NFL/MLB LIVE it offers a unique perspective on "modern day" fantasy sport experience.
    Yesterday at 05:27:47 PM
  • Daddy: NHL LIVE owners here are your spreadsheets [link] you can see your Franchises, your availability cap, your RFAs, all of it. Make your plans. Talk yo talk. Be ready.
    Yesterday at 05:50:15 PM
  • STLBlues91: I will be around the rest of the night. I will finish correcting 5 spreadsheets and then they all should match. I am officially on summer vacation
    Yesterday at 06:35:36 PM
  • Daddy: Shot out to YURmom. The first female of LIVE as its only female LIVE GM. Thats a keeper @Mt_Crushmore! :toast:
    Yesterday at 09:23:01 PM
  • Daddy: #Chicks dig da dynasty
    Yesterday at 09:24:43 PM
  • Daddy: Shot out to all actively bidding in the Nico Hoerner sweepstakes! [link] MLB LIVE never sleeps.
    Yesterday at 09:29:27 PM
  • Daddy: Shot out to @jmntl82 [link] congratulations on your first of many LIVE trades.
    Yesterday at 09:31:14 PM
  • Daddy: Well damn.. congratulations on your second trade in the last fifteen minutes. :rofl: Bartender i will have what he's having.
    Yesterday at 09:37:13 PM
  • IndianaBuc: I’ll have a double.
    Yesterday at 09:38:53 PM
  • jmntl82: Stay tuned, we're building something over here in Detroit
    Yesterday at 09:43:10 PM
  • Brent: PM sent Detroit
    Yesterday at 09:51:02 PM
  • Rhino7: Bartender pour me another :toast:
    Yesterday at 09:56:30 PM
  • Daddy: We are building something. In every sport. Non stop. Its what we do.
    Yesterday at 10:11:31 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Yup, sometimes people dont see the vision. Sometimes the vision Fricks up. You dont know till the chips are cashed in
    Yesterday at 10:12:50 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: I once traded a full draft class 1-7, an additional 1st, 3 offensive flyer players for what player you might ask?
    Yesterday at 10:13:27 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: WR Jalen Reagor lmaaooo  :rofl:
    Yesterday at 10:14:04 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: And won my first chip that same season. Reagor starting in the flex scoring 9 points
    Yesterday at 10:14:39 PM
  • jmntl82: How did the other team finish?
    Yesterday at 10:16:01 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: It was dallas. I think he missed the playoffs that year. Then used the draft picks on the 2021 class. Every pick was the 32nd pick (dont remembee what the other 1st became)
    Yesterday at 10:18:22 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Idk if anyone remembers the 2021 class but it was weak on offense outside or the top 10-15. I dont regret the deal just learned and move on. As long as you have assets, you can mold your build how you want. Picks are usually the most valuable asset because most gms want in on a draft.
    Yesterday at 10:19:34 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: The results of that draft class is here [link]
    Yesterday at 10:20:27 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Every 32 overall pick dallas makes in each round came from that trade
    Yesterday at 10:20:54 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: The 2024 and 2025 classes look much more promising than that one lol
    Yesterday at 10:22:06 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: 2021 draft class was my worst class as a NFL Live gm. my 2022 and 2023 were better
    Yesterday at 10:32:52 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: I think it was the worst for most of us. It was a bad class overall. The top was amazing tho
    Yesterday at 10:42:05 PM
  • jimw: Etienne is amazing. He was near the top of that draft lol
    Yesterday at 11:18:42 PM
  • Brent: I got Nico Collins at 26.
    Yesterday at 11:20:10 PM
  • Daddy: You can use his bat n glove.
    Yesterday at 11:41:35 PM
  • dbreer23: I'm having issues trying to access league SS using Google Sheets. Anyone else having problems?
    Today at 12:32:38 AM
  • Jwalkerjr88: :beer:
    Today at 12:42:14 AM
  • Daddy: Which league SS
    Today at 12:56:47 AM
  • Daddy: NHL LIVE Buzz... "Tomas Hertl has just purchased land in the Delaware Valley. His agent suggests he loves Cheesesteaks
    Today at 01:30:45 AM
  • dbreer23: All league SS
    Today at 01:55:17 AM
  • dbreer23: which sucks bc I am headed out of town again tomorrow.
    Today at 01:55:29 AM
  • dbreer23: I'll be back on Monday to get things back in order in all leagues.
    Today at 02:00:12 AM
  • Daddy: Its local on your end @Dan
    Today at 02:06:12 AM
  • Daddy: I can see them all.
    Today at 02:06:47 AM
  • DaveW: safe travels Dan - I can also see the spreadsheets in both MLB Live and FGM
    Today at 07:05:08 AM