League Wide Vote- Cash Exchanged On Player's Contract

[Billy]

No. The vote was to be finalized Friday if no one else voted for option 2 to make it closer. Need the 2 that voted for the other options to decide on their preference of those 2 options that are leading.

[jojowalkwalk]

Option 2

[ajm5551]

I?m beyond confused by this voting process. Is it not fair and square moving forward with option 5 as that had the most votes yesterday (Friday)?

It seems like a select few people are pushing hard for option 2 and will do whatever it takes to get it selected. I even received a PM from another owner about a trade they had setup and planned to complete for Anthony Davis if I didn?t change my vote to option 2. That owner was clearly hoping to send a message using the trade he had in place, but it did not change my opinion. Even after that PM I decided to stick with option 5.


More than okay with either option that is selected as I respect the process and league commissioners, but I will most likely step down as GM if we take away cash exchanges. I join leagues on ProFSL for the simulation type GM style, and taking away cash exchanges makes this all much more basic. Please do not take this as a threat, I am just being transparent.

I do agree we need to limit cash exchanges, but it seems way to extreme to end them all together.

Why not go with option 5, give it a year? if it still isn?t working, change to option 2. Doing it vice versa would not help at all. Just my two sense. 

[DynastyDeacon]

How long are we going to wait before calling it and is there a plan if there is a tie?

[DynastyDeacon]

I?m beyond confused by this voting process. Is it not fair and square moving forward with option 5 as that had the most votes yesterday (Friday)?

It seems like a select few people are pushing hard for option 2 and will do whatever it takes to get it selected. I even received a PM from another owner about a trade they had setup and planned to complete for Anthony Davis if I didn?t change my vote to option 2. That owner was clearly hoping to send a message using the trade he had in place, but it did not change my opinion. Even after that PM I decided to stick with option 5.


More than okay with either option that is selected as I respect the process and league commissioners, but I will most likely step down as GM if we take away cash exchanges. I join leagues on ProFSL for the simulation type GM style, and taking away cash exchanges makes this all much more basic. Please do not take this as a threat, I am just being transparent.

I do agree we need to limit cash exchanges, but it seems way to extreme to end them all together.

Why not go with option 5, give it a year? if it still isn?t working, change to option 2. Doing it vice versa would not help at all. Just my two sense. 

I feel I need to clarify things a little. I have had several conversations with managers that didn't fully understand option #5 and whether it was 25% per year or per total contract or they hadn't done the math to see if 25% of total contract makes a difference with the perceived issue of creating super teams. I have a deal in place to obtain Anthony Davis with the first full year fully paid, which is 25% of his contract, should option #5 pass. I used that as a real world example in case you hadn't thought it through and thought that a 25% limit would prevent major deals like that and prevent a star from getting traded with an entire year fully paid. That was all.


In response to that message you said via PM

I?m sticking with my decision!

Best,
Alex

You then posted the following on the cash exchange discussion thread:

Not looking to cause any drama or add to this long thread, but?

I just wanted to once again double down on my decision for voting on option #5.

A very strong chance I would step down as GM if we eliminate cash exchanges completely. There has to be middle ground here? and I think option 5 is it.

Thanks!
Alex

I then responded via PM:

Fair enough. I read your post on the cash exchanges and can totally respect that. Good luck this season!

I feel I need to clarify here that I didn't threaten anyone, simply used a real world example to see if everyone had fully thought through their decision to vote for option #5 and if they hadn't thought it through and now believe option #2 would be a better option they could change their vote. All that took place yesterday afternoon and I thought everything was good so I'm confused by the need to bring me into it today.

To be honest I am really ready for this thing to be decided in whatever way it goes. I think there has to be a better middle ground for these two camps of option #2 and option #5. I think option #2 people want sensible restrictions on cash exchanges and feel option #5 isn't sensible, while those who vote for option #5 feel no cash exchanges isn't sensible. I think the net cash exchange limits were a good common ground. As my wife pointed out this would have been a great opportunity for ranked choice voting. Given the divide a third option of $25m net cash exchange combined with a 25% total contract value might be the way to go as a compromise vs. half of us angry and upset and the other half mostly happy, but still wishing we went with something more toward the middle.

[ajm5551]

Agreed. There must be some sort of compromise. To me, option 2 was the extreme, so that resulted in my vote for 5.
And it sucks to say, but it is something I would leave a league over as it is a very important rule and aspect of deals. But maybe im crazy for thinking that.

Either way, this has just been one confusing thread that has almost made this league feel political and maybe we should look for 3rd party voting websites for future league change ideas.

 
 

[Billy]

I stated at the beginning of the voting process, the options that are listed are the only options. We are not altering them

I also clearly stated that the vote would finalize Friday IF no one else voted for number 2 to close the gap.

This vote needs to be taken care of but I?m not going to finalize it if the vote is so close and neither option has more than half of the leagues votes.

[seebnova]

then.. I go for option #5

[Billy]

The poll is now finalized. Moving forward, option 5 will now be the new rule on cash exchanges Involved in trades

[RyanJames5]

Unless I'm incorrect, we will need to adjust how contracts are listed to be able to easily figure out what 25% of the entirety of a contract is correct?

We will need to know how long the deal was for, to be able to figure it out.