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RFA Jalen Brunson compensation
« on: July 08, 2022, 10:45:17 PM »
Based on the attached ruling. I will take as compensation (Panda) Dallas 2022 1st round pick # 7.

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Quote from: Panda on July 06, 2022, 10:35:59 PM
I did have an inquiry:
Can I surrender a 1st round pick instead of 2nd round pick.
Eg. RFA bidding 3 players who would need a 2nd pick compensation and all decline to match so oje team gets a 1st instead?
I know it?s risky since my pick is so high but in general it seems like all owners will just match all these RFA bids especially compared to real life contracts!

Good question, I guess in theory should you (or anyone) want to put a 1st instead of a 2nd on the table as compensation I don't have an issue.

Not sure there will be many cases like your example, but if we stick with it then the 1st team to decline would have option of 1st. However, if team has same or less winning bids as 2nd rounders available for compensation, then 1st would not need to come into play.
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Re: RFA Jalen Brunson compensation
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2022, 11:04:46 PM »
You don't get the first unless 2 others decline to match. Otherwise it's a second.
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Re: RFA Jalen Brunson compensation
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2022, 11:29:35 PM »
Panda had 4 winning bids out, forcing the use of 1st round picks as discussed. Once he won the RFA bid. I get to select my choice of draft picks. I do not have to wait till RFA is complete. I chose the 2022 1st round (#7) pick. Done deal.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2022, 11:31:32 PM by Teton »
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Re: RFA Jalen Brunson compensation
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2022, 12:00:28 AM »
So I see this can quickly be a bit confusing, but the way we are going to handle this is by using time of winning bid(s) as way to decide when 1st  gets into play.

I have zero Jazz choosing 1st given Brunson dominon to close. However, as of now Dallas has not officially won the other players (Sexton/Bridges/Jackson) so this is on hold.

If remain Dallas players hold up as winning bid then yes 1st can go to Jazz. However, can't jump the gun while other teams can bid on these 3 players. So if the time for Jazz to make decison is in line with time when Dallas wins other players is how 1st comes into play (as of now it would align). If dallas does not win everyone and it reverts to 2nd you can then make a new decision @Teton

Hope this long winded answer makes sense, I do feel it is most fair way to approach.
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Re: RFA Jalen Brunson compensation
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2022, 12:30:09 PM »
I disagree. This is not fair solution.
The owner of a RFA should not have to wait for the additional RFA picks to be resolved.
What's important is that the RFA bidder had 4 leading bids and 4 draft picks when the RFA was won. As the RFA owner I was due compensation and as our rules state, intiled to make a selection from the available draft picks. The use and inclusion of the first round picks were approved my you the commissioner. Waiting for the rest of the RFA draft to resolve the issue is absurd.
The proper resolution would have been to have the RFA bidder change his bid to make two of his bids orthodox 1st round compensation picks, this would not have been costly as the bid for my RFA (Brunson) and his leading bid for Bridger are 13 mil. It would have eliminated the entire issue.
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Re: RFA Jalen Brunson compensation
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2022, 11:37:13 PM »
I agree with Vik. I always inderstood that you wait until RFA to play out and then work out compensation. That's why I responded to Teton so he wouldn't be disappointed if he ended up with a second.
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Re: RFA Jalen Brunson compensation
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2022, 12:26:03 AM »
All ok, I will step down. Did not mean to cause disruption and confusion! I’ll focus on other leagues. Thanks.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2022, 01:13:17 AM by Panda »
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Re: RFA Jalen Brunson compensation
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2022, 12:29:36 AM »
All ok, I will step down. Did not mean to cause disruption and confusion! I’ll focus on other leagues. Thanks.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2022, 01:13:34 AM by Panda »
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Re: RFA Jalen Brunson compensation
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2022, 11:44:12 AM »
All ok, I will step down. Did not mean to cause disruption and confusion! I’ll focus on other leagues. Thanks.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2022, 01:13:44 AM by Panda »
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Re: RFA Jalen Brunson compensation
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2022, 06:26:33 PM »
I think you also won Porter jr.
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