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Title: Discussion: Free Agent Prospects (Less than 40 games)
Post by: cloud91 on May 05, 2013, 09:10:42 PM
hi guys JUST A SUGGESTION....
...my suggestion is..if WE CAN make a free agency maybe just 5 or 10 days for UNDRAFTED PLAYERS that will not be picked here on our league ...and illegible players are in the last 2 or 3 yrs that has not been pick in this league and must have 0 NHL exp.
..and teams can only sign maybe just 2 players per year..a no auction signing just sign the players automatically this makes us a SCOUT lol..
...
i guess this makes our league different from the others, hehe,,

...again this is just a suggestion..



nov17-13: title modified to clarify purpose of thread.
Title: Re: suggestion
Post by: PigsRule on May 05, 2013, 09:54:15 PM
by "Undrafted" you mean player that were not drafted in this league during their draft yr but are available via free agency?

do you mean make it so those players can only be signed during a specific free agent period Sept 9-15 but after that period teams can't sign those undrafted players?
Title: Re: suggestion
Post by: cloud91 on May 06, 2013, 08:49:14 AM
by "Undrafted" you mean player that were not drafted in this league during their draft yr but are available via free agency?

do you mean make it so those players can only be signed during a specific free agent period Sept 9-15 but after that period teams can't sign those undrafted players?
..yes,,,,my point here is just an early free agency but with limited time(maybe 3 to 5 days) and limited signing(maybe 2 signings per team) for the undrafted players or players that has zero(0) NHL experience maybe for for the last 3 yrs,,, and in a direct signing and not in auction,,
...but we can still sign  them after that period,,, we can sign players with 0 NHL game experience in free agency  right??
Title: Re: suggestion
Post by: PigsRule on May 07, 2013, 11:50:21 AM
...
we can sign players with 0 NHL game experience in free agency  right??

in Franchise NHL players that have been drafted by an NHL with 0 games experience are considered free agents.

this works because in FNHL we are only allowed to draft players during their (1) draft yr and (2) only if they are actually drafted that same yr.

i know a number of other leagues allow players from past draft yrs to be picked in a current draft yr. 
Title: Re: suggestion
Post by: PigsRule on May 07, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
..yes,,,,my point here is just an early free agency but with limited time(maybe 3 to 5 days) and limited signing(maybe 2 signings per team) for the undrafted players or players that has zero(0) NHL experience maybe for for the last 3 yrs,,, and in a direct signing and not in auction,,
...

i kinda get what you're saying.

let's see if others have an opinion.

my thoughts:
if you want that, add a draft round for past yrs called "Supplemental Draft Round"

that would allow those prospects to be protected in a team's minor league system until they reach 40 games played.

it's not a bad idea. but again, let's let ppl input on this idea. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: suggestion
Post by: Burkes Boys on May 10, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
my thoughts:
if you want that, add a draft round for past yrs called "Supplemental Draft Round"

that would allow those prospects to be protected in a team's minor league system until they reach 40 games played.


:iatp:

I like this idea. But no more than one supp.draft round.
Title: Re: suggestion
Post by: snugerud on May 12, 2013, 06:36:03 AM
i like free agency,  always one of my favorite times in a league and one thing that keeps me interested all season long. 
Title: Re: suggestion
Post by: jackdaniels on May 28, 2013, 01:11:48 AM
I think it would be good to have a draft round dedicated to draftees from past years.

Make it so that only players that haven't played a game or have played less than 40 games can be drafted from any year prior to the current draft year.

You can even assign one draft pick per team per day so each team knows exactly when they should be drafting instead of waiting for the guy on the clock to pick or run the clock.
Title: Re: suggestion
Post by: PigsRule on May 29, 2013, 02:53:30 PM
i believe DNHL uses a supplemental draft for players that qualify for MiLR (less than 40 games and or undrafted from any yr).

creating a 1 round supplemental draft would create value in those draft picks and make them another value team asset to use or trade to build a team.

i do like the 1 team per day draft process. that could be interesting.
perhaps a great way to countdown to the start of the regular season or an added activity of interest during the 1st month of the season.
Title: Re: suggestion
Post by: PigsRule on November 10, 2013, 02:25:08 PM
Cloud, I thought about this and figure another way to address you request would be to allow teams to select 1 player from their MLR that qualifies for the MiLR 40 games or less at the NHL level to be moved into the MiLR during a 2wk period year end.

This wouldn't devalue draft picks either.
Title: Re: suggestion
Post by: PsychoticPondGoons on November 12, 2013, 10:57:40 AM
If you want to do the extra work Pigs I'm all for it. LOL
Title: Re: Discussion: Free Agent Prospects (Less than 40 games)
Post by: PigsRule on November 17, 2013, 03:06:13 PM
I don't mind the extra work because it'll end up being like Amnesty Buy outs, only 20-25% of teams will use this to their advantage. In the event more teams option to stash a prospect that qualifies (up to and less than 40 regular season games played), I would gladly process the transactions because it adds more value back to the MiLR and Franchise NHL overall.

I like searching for prospects and it would be to my advantage for sure.

If we limit it to only 1 transaction per team per yr in a limited timeframe/window, that should control the possibility of abuse.

It would be good to get more input from the rest of the team owners.
Title: Re: Discussion: Free Agent Prospects (Less than 40 games)
Post by: PigsRule on November 17, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Now in terms of mechanics of how to process... if we did move ahead with this idea, would a stashed Free Agent in the MiLR ... one that already owns a contract qualify somehow for an Entry Level contract if their current contract expires and they get called up?

Also, should teams be allows to bury a Free agent stashee's contract in the Minors? I don't think so and that player's contract should still count towards the MLR (regular team cap) given the abuse I've seen of waivers in various leagues.

A suggestion for mechanics:
1) the Free agent prospect can be stashed in the MiLR
2) contract remains on Major League Roster's Cap (similar to how FNHL deals with Long term Injured Reserve contracts, they remain on the books but the roster spot gets freed up)
3) once the current prospect's contract expires their cap hit goes to $0 (as long as the prospect is on the MiLR)
4) If the prospect gets called up and doesn't have a current/active contract, they would qualify for an Entry Level contract (like a drafted prospect) if they are being called up.
Title: Re: Discussion: Free Agent Prospects (Less than 40 games)
Post by: Burkes Boys on February 17, 2014, 10:56:05 AM
So is this still on the table?

Now in terms of mechanics of how to process... if we did move ahead with this idea, would a stashed Free Agent in the MiLR ... one that already owns a contract qualify somehow for an Entry Level contract if their current contract expires and they get called up?

Also, should teams be allows to bury a Free agent stashee's contract in the Minors? I don't think so and that player's contract should still count towards the MLR (regular team cap) given the abuse I've seen of waivers in various leagues.

A suggestion for mechanics:
1) the Free agent prospect can be stashed in the MiLR
2) contract remains on Major League Roster's Cap (similar to how FNHL deals with Long term Injured Reserve contracts, they remain on the books but the roster spot gets freed up)
3) once the current prospect's contract expires their cap hit goes to $0 (as long as the prospect is on the MiLR)
4) If the prospect gets called up and doesn't have a current/active contract, they would qualify for an Entry Level contract (like a drafted prospect) if they are being called up.
Title: Re: Discussion: Free Agent Prospects (Less than 40 games)
Post by: PigsRule on February 17, 2014, 03:33:50 PM
Yep! Open for discussion and vetting by the owners... if there's overwhelming approval to move ahead with this, we can make it happen.

Would like more input though as I think this is a "nice-to-have" versus a "must have" rule change.
Title: Re: Discussion: Free Agent Prospects (Less than 40 games)
Post by: jackdaniels on February 17, 2014, 09:08:34 PM
I think it would be good to have a draft round dedicated to draftees from past years.

Make it so that only players that haven't played a game or have played less than 40 games can be drafted from any year prior to the current draft year.

You can even assign one draft pick per team per day so each team knows exactly when they should be drafting instead of waiting for the guy on the clock to pick or run the clock.

I stick to my original feedback on this topic.  :toast:
Title: Re: Discussion: Free Agent Prospects (Less than 40 games)
Post by: PsychoticPondGoons on February 18, 2014, 11:34:53 AM
If you want to do the extra work Pigs I'm all for it. LOL
I don't mind the extra work because it'll end up being like Amnesty Buy outs, only 20-25% of teams will use this to their advantage. In the event more teams option to stash a prospect that qualifies (up to and less than 40 regular season games played), I would gladly process the transactions because it adds more value back to the MiLR and Franchise NHL overall.

I like searching for prospects and it would be to my advantage for sure.

If we limit it to only 1 transaction per team per yr in a limited timeframe/window, that should control the possibility of abuse.

It would be good to get more input from the rest of the team owners.

Like I said in the EDM/CBJ trade thread if you gents want a hand processing transactions I can pitch in. I like the direction we're headed in here and can't wait to bring in some new owners to compete against.  :toast: :disco:

I haven't had so much interest in fantasy since the early days of pencil to paper draft boards in my basement over beers. Anyone remember doing that way back when?  :o

Title: Re: Discussion: Free Agent Prospects (Less than 40 games)
Post by: PigsRule on February 18, 2014, 04:38:24 PM
Like I said in the EDM/CBJ trade thread if you gents want a hand processing transactions I can pitch in. I like the direction we're headed in here and can't wait to bring in some new owners to compete against.  :toast: :disco:

I haven't had so much interest in fantasy since the early days of pencil to paper draft boards in my basement over beers. Anyone remember doing that way back when?  :o



Added you PPG! Thanks for stepping up to assist the league!
Title: Re: Discussion: Free Agent Prospects (Less than 40 games)
Post by: jackdaniels on March 11, 2014, 08:03:22 PM
I think it would be good to have a draft round dedicated to draftees from past years.

Make it so that only players that haven't played a game or have played less than 40 games can be drafted from any year prior to the current draft year.

You can even assign one draft pick per team per day so each team knows exactly when they should be drafting instead of waiting for the guy on the clock to pick or run the clock.

Hey boys let's do this start this Summer!
What do you say boys?
Title: Re: Discussion: Free Agent Prospects (Less than 40 games)
Post by: PsychoticPondGoons on March 12, 2014, 10:11:59 AM
hi guys JUST A SUGGESTION....
...my suggestion is..if WE CAN make a free agency maybe just 5 or 10 days for UNDRAFTED PLAYERS that will not be picked here on our league ...and illegible players are in the last 2 or 3 yrs that has not been pick in this league and must have 0 NHL exp.
..and teams can only sign maybe just 2 players per year..a no auction signing just sign the players automatically this makes us a SCOUT lol..
...
i guess this makes our league different from the others, hehe,,

...again this is just a suggestion..



nov17-13: title modified to clarify purpose of thread.


Maybe Cloud wants to add his 2 cents to this chat. Cloud are you around man?
Title: Re: Discussion: Free Agent Prospects (Less than 40 games)
Post by: PigsRule on March 13, 2014, 04:11:17 PM
well it's a moot point since Cloud91 is not returning for the 2014-15 season based on his post in the NOT returning owners thread.
Title: Re: Discussion: Free Agent Prospects (Less than 40 games)
Post by: PigsRule on March 13, 2014, 04:12:24 PM
personally I like the idea.
Helps franchised build their roster via young talent they can develop in their minor league system over a few yrs.
Title: Re: Discussion: Free Agent Prospects (Less than 40 games)
Post by: fperric on September 05, 2014, 09:15:32 PM
Final verdict on this? 

Thx,
 Frank-DS
Title: Re: Discussion: Free Agent Prospects (Less than 40 games)
Post by: PigsRule on September 06, 2014, 01:57:17 AM
Final verdict on this? 

Thx,
 Frank-DS

We kept the rule as is.

Players with less than 40 games played get treated like any other Free agent and once signed must be placed on the MLR.