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Fantasy Leagues => Franchise GM: Transactions => Franchise GM => MLB Leagues => Franchise GM: Invalid Transactions => Topic started by: Canada8999 on September 13, 2010, 07:54:27 PM
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Remember, the EDR is at 10 players for this draft. It does not expand to 15 players until the 2011 season. Also, this draft, is still considered to be a part of the 2010 season, so your books have not closed. You will need to clear the necessary cap space before a player is signed.
Are we still allowed to make drops during the draft, or do all transactions need to be made before it starts?
Base salaries ($500k) do not count toward the salary cap; only signing bonuses count towards the cap.
If and only if the player fits on your EDR - if you chose to put some draft picks onto your 40-man roster (do not have room on your EDR), they are treated like any other prospect signed via FA.
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Are we still allowed to make drops during the draft, or do all transactions need to be made before it starts?
If and only if the player fits on your EDR - if you chose to put some draft picks onto your 40-man roster (do not have room on your EDR), they are treated like any other prospect signed via FA.
1) Yes, drops can be made whenever.
2) Good point. I am sure most know this, but we don't want GMs going by the letter of the law in this post and therefore misunderstanding the rules.
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Is it possible to hold future drafts when the trade embarge is lifted? It would be fun to allow teams to trade up or down depending on how the draft is progressing.
While we are at it, can we get rid of trading deadline all together (or at least lift it as soon as the season is over?)
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No more trading of draft picks AND trade deadline expires when the season is over (which is after the draft).
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Wouldn't it be fun if teams have options of trading up and nab Taillon?
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totally agree, it would be fun to have draft day trades. lol. however they dont have them in baseball either.
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Wouldn't it be fun if teams have options of trading up and nab Taillon?
I agree it would be fun. Howe, this is where I think Agents vs. GMs could use this functionality. Consider that the league where we have the fun un-traditional rules in place.
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Can we do this right now?
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Can we do this right now?
No, trading draft picks stopped at the trade deadline and is not allowed going forward.
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vitek's bonus should be 1.5 not 2.5
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vitek's bonus should be 1.5 not 2.5
Fixed.
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Guys - if you know you won't be able to make your pick and there is a chance you will be up in the next few hours, send in a proxy list... at the current pace we'll be getting ready for the 2012 draft before this finishes.
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yeah this is getting ridiculous
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How do we go through prime hours with only one auto-proxy pick?! After so much draft pick trading during the year, we're not interested in the draft itself?
If we don't get things moving a little better through the weekend, I think we should seriously reconsider our rules for the time limit and missing picks...
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hey, if my picks goes into this weekend, im not going to be around! (have a wedding) Sorry guys.
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I think part of the problem is the timing of the draft. Some teams might no longer have baseball on their minds now that football has started. Theoretically, we could have had the draft the day after the signing deadline. An earlier draft would have caused teams to think twice about cutting high priced players, while there is no downside to doing so now.
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I think part of the problem is the timing of the draft. Some teams might no longer have baseball on their minds now that football has started. Theoretically, we could have had the draft the day after the signing deadline. An earlier draft would have caused teams to think twice about cutting high priced players, while there is no downside to doing so now.
I'll second both points. It will also help since activity dies down after the trade deadline, the draft will help keep focus.
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Proposal: each team has 1 hour to make a pick. Teams that miss their picks get a player from BA's list. These teams will also have the option of changing the auto picked player provided the new player has not been taken by another team.
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Proposal: each team has 1 hour to make a pick. Teams that miss their picks get a player from BA's list. These teams will also have the option of changing the auto picked player provided the new player has not been taken by another team.
I think 1 hour is very short - personally I had 2 hours in mind. Probably not a big deal either way.
Changing picks could be messy and cause confusion - we could just let the pick keep slipping (if they didn't send a proxy), and the owner makes it whenever they get back, meanwhile other owners rush to get their picks in before that. Happened in the NFL draft a few years ago (was it the Ravens pick?)
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I think 1 hour is very short - personally I had 2 hours in mind. Probably not a big deal either way.
Changing picks could be messy and cause confusion - we could just let the pick keep slipping (if they didn't send a proxy), and the owner makes it whenever they get back, meanwhile other owners rush to get their picks in before that. Happened in the NFL draft a few years ago (was it the Ravens pick?)
Yeah I like your idea better, less confusion this way. Our draft would finish in 25 days if 2 hour deadline is used, that is pretty reasonable.
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Yeah I like your idea better, less confusion this way. Our draft would finish in 25 days if 2 hour deadline is used, that is pretty reasonable.
hey guys, i think 2 is too little. Me personally, i have work 10-7 tonight, no way could i keep up with it. then i'm relegated to proxy picking?! Rules are as they are, we shouldn't go changing them for this draft. next year maybe
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I have the 12th pick, and I would like to post it at 11:09 am. That is exactly 16 hours after the 9th pick was posted last night. Any objections?
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i think we need to move the draft to the begining of the season! like normal fantasy drafts are.
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Proposal: each team has 1 hour to make a pick. Teams that miss their picks get a player from BA's list. These teams will also have the option of changing the auto picked player provided the new player has not been taken by another team.
I like that idea with a larger window. The reason I like this is that even submitted proxy lists aren't perfect because the commissioner can't be here 24/7.
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One thing I like about having the draft this late is that it forces some teams to give up the free agency rights of some players. Consider it the antidote to contract extensions for a vibrant off-season free agency.
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I have the 12th pick, and I would like to post it at 11:09 am. That is exactly 16 hours after the 9th pick was posted last night. Any objections?
Not really fair, because the 11th team deserves his full time window which only starts running after the 10th pick is actually made (which just happened). We can't just assume the next player on the BA list is the auto-pick, since perhaps the owner sent a proxy list and neither he nor Colby were available to post it - we can't really blame that on anyone, and it's not fair for the owner to suffer for it.
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I like that idea with a larger window. The reason I like this is that even submitted proxy lists aren't perfect because the commissioner can't be here 24/7.
24/7 no, but you could chose to work with other members of the board to post picks if you know they will be available (ie: is Dan still helping out as commish?)
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24/7 no, but you could chose to work with other members of the board to post picks if you know they will be available (ie: is Dan still helping out as commish?)
Good idea. I would like to form this group right now. This group should CC each other on all draft related PMs. Based on activity, I am selecting myself, Dan, Jake, Ben, Roy, and Howe... 20% of the league. It should be up to us to communicate who is up next and make the auto-pick or proxy pick if the GM has surpassed the 8 hour time limit or given a pre-ranking of the next picks, respectively. This should get us to 3+ picks per day.
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Sorry, I was unable to access a computer.
With our 3rd pick of the 1st round, the Marlins would like to select Zack Cox, 3b, Arkansas. Thanks!
Cox has a 3.5mil signing bonus plus the .5mil prospect salary which brings it up to a grand total of 4mil. The Marlins only have 3.5mil free, so is this a valid pick if you exceed your salary cap?
~MTK
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Cox has a 3.5mil signing bonus plus the .5mil prospect salary which brings it up to a grand total of 4mil. The Marlins only have 3.5mil free, so is this a valid pick if you exceed your salary cap?
~MTK
No salary for prospects placed onto the EDR...
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Ok folks, let's get some more excitement going about the draft... To this point we've had:
1-1 NYM - C Bryce Harper $7m bonus
1-2 WAS (from BAL) - MI Manny Machado $5m bonus
1-3 FL - P Jameson Taillon $6m bonus
1-4 KC (from PIT) - SP Alex Wimmers $1.5m bonus
1-5 BAL (from WAS) - CI-OF Josh Sale $2.5m bonus
1-6 MIL (from CHW, from CIN) - OF Micheal Choice $2.5m bonus
1-7 SD - MI-OF Kolbrin Vitek $1.5m bonus
1-8 BAL (from WAS from KC from CHC From LAA) - P Chris Sale $3.5m bonus
1-9 FL - CI Zach Cox $3.5m bonus
1-10 SF (from NYY from CHC from KC) - P Deck McGuire $3m bonus
1-11 ARZ (from HOU) - C Yasmani Grandal $2m bonus
1-12 TEX - OF Jake Skole
Not much surprise with the top 3 (although Taillon was an auto-pick).
Picks 4-10 are all well before their actual MLB selections, but still all solid picks
Florida missed their guy at 3, but still get Cox at 9 (and the best P in the process)
Skole goes way above his BA ranking (not in the top 200) in MLB and FGM, both to Texas.
Best value so far? To this point, no one has been picked too far after their BA ranking.
Who's falling? Pomeranz is 4th for BA and went 5th in MLB, Colon went 4th in MLB.
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Skole surprised me... Pomeranz would have went to the Giants but they didn't have the cap room for his $4m bonus. I will be interested to see who falls to the Pirates for their first pick of the draft (early 2nd round).
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Skole surprised me... Pomeranz would have went to the Giants but they didn't have the cap room for his $4m bonus. I will be interested to see who falls to the Pirates for their first pick of the draft (early 2nd round).
I've been looking forward to the 2nd round for a long time now, which has definitely added to my anxiousness to get this thing moving.
1-28 MIL
2-2 MIL (from BAL, from CHW, From CIN)
2-5 MIL (from WAS)
2-6 MIL (from CHW)
2-22 MIL (from ATL from CHC)
3-9 MIL (from OAK from CIN)
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I will probably forfeit my last two picks as my 40-man and EDR will fill up at that point. Everything rests on my 2nd rounder. I have a lot of action going on in the middle of the draft, so I will probably go after some college guys that did well in ProFSL's College Ball league this year.
2-11 PIT (from LAA from HOU)
5-2 PIT (from BAL)
5-4 PIT
5-28 PIT (from WAS from MIL)
6-2 PIT (from BAL)
6-22 PIT (from CIN from PIT from ATL)
6-28 PIT (from MIL)
7-2 PIT (from BAL)
9-2 PIT (from PHI from CHC from COL from BAL)
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I have a lot of action going on in the middle of the draft, so I will probably go after some college guys that did well in ProFSL's College Ball league this year.
That's a great point, we'll certainly have some owners well educated on the available college player pool.
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My whole draft rests on my 2 early 3rd rounders. I have alot of late picks, where i hope to find a diamond in the rough haha.
Honestly in my opinion Zack Cox was a very good value pick. I know some people arent high on him, but i am. Michael Choice was another guy Im very high on. No real surprises in my mind yet
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Honestly in my opinion Zack Cox was a very good value pick. I know some people arent high on him, but i am.
I won't claim to be a huge expert in the MLB draft, but it does seem like Cox is pretty polarizing - some people love him, some really don't. For instance, BA had him 6th, but he went 25th.
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I agree I havent seen a player so much disagreed on in awhile
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Alright Florida, lets keep it under 6 hours this time... at 4 and counting...
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The fish want Gary Brown, of, Cal State Fullerton as my 13th pick
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Indians auto-draft A.J. Cole, RHP drafted by Washington.
Minnesota is on the clock.
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BA's top 5 players available:
4 - Drew Pomeranz
8 - Stetson Allie
9 - Christian Colon
12 - Kaleb Cowart
17 - Nick Castellanos
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BA's top 5 players available:
4 - Drew Pomeranz
8 - Stetson Allie
9 - Christian Colon
12 - Kaleb Cowart
17 - Nick Castellanos
According to the rules, I believe that #15 Karston Whitson is available but the signing bonus would be $3m since he didn't sign.
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According to the rules, I believe that #15 Karston Whitson is available but the signing bonus would be $3m since he didn't sign.
That is correct, based on what is written. I do believe part of the reason for moving the draft to now was to avoid having to worry about signability, and to remove the rules we have in place for unsigned players - only signed players would be eligible.
Colby - Did we make that official, but not actually put it into the rules? Or are we still allowed to draft unsigned players?
Note that it won't affect the Indians pick, since they only have $2.0M in cap space.
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That is correct, based on what is written. I do believe part of the reason for moving the draft to now was to avoid having to worry about signability, and to remove the rules we have in place for unsigned players - only signed players would be eligible.
Colby - Did we make that official, but not actually put it into the rules? Or are we still allowed to draft unsigned players?
Note that it won't affect the Indians pick, since they only have $2.0M in cap space.
My bad, give him the best available that was signed. I am on my cell phone so someone else needs to post it.
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Twins take Drew Pomeranz, Mariners on the clock.
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the slowness of this draft is killing me!
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The lack of participation is pretty pathetic... I understand that people have other priorities, and may even spend the time they do have for this on football instead, but just send in a proxy list if you're in the next 10 picks and won't be around - it's that simple. If you don't have time to do that, at least let Colby know and we'll give you the auto-pick right away (which is what you'd get anyway).
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I think another possible enhancement to the process for next year is something similar to what happens in most online draft rooms these days - if you miss your pick, you're automatically switched to auto-draft. If you come back and say you're here now, you'll make your next pick then fine, but otherwise we're not stuck waiting the entire window for each of your picks.
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i like that idea MIL...I like it a lot
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I think another possible enhancement to the process for next year is something similar to what happens in most online draft rooms these days - if you miss your pick, you're automatically switched to auto-draft. If you come back and say you're here now, you'll make your next pick then fine, but otherwise we're not stuck waiting the entire window for each of your picks.
I think we could put that idea in to play for this year after the first round. A PM can be sent around to the entire league giving it several days to take place (next weekend). Teams would be marked auto-draft via post in the league. This excludes teams who did not submit proxy lists.
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Sounds good to me - while I usually have strong objections to new rules going into place right away, I'm personally ok with procedural changes taking effect immediately.
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Last 3 Picks:
1-16: Stetson Allie, RHP
1-17: Matt Harvey, RHP
1-18: Kris Bryant, 3B
1-19: Anthony Ranaudo, RHP
1-20: Ascher Wojciechowski, RHP
Tampa Bay is on the clock
BA's Top 5 Available:
Christian Colon
Kaleb Cowart
Nick Castellanos
Brandon Workman
Brett Eibner
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TB took Colon, Braves are on the clock (as of 7:24PM).
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The Braves took Kaleb Cowart. The Florida Marlins are on the clock.
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Nice run of picks today, this looks to be moving at a solid pace now.
Kansas City is on the clock, with pick 1-29.
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Ben, do you think you could compile a simple list of the BA top overall remaining players that excludes players that did not sign?
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Ben, do you think you could compile a simple list of the BA top overall remaining players that excludes players that did not sign?
BA's top 20 available/eligible players:
| Name | Pos | BA_Rank |
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| Zach Lee | RHP | 29 |
| Jesse Hahn | RHP | 31 |
| Ryan LaMarre | OF | 32 |
| Chad Bettis | RHP | 33 |
| Seth Blair | RHP | 34 |
| Peter Tago | RHP | 36 |
| Kyle Parker | OF | 37 |
| Jedd Gyorko | 3B | 39 |
| Jacob Petricka | RHP | 40 |
| Jarrett Parker | OF | 41 |
| Tyrell Jenkins | RHP | 43 |
| Mike Foltynewicz | RHP | 44 |
| Drew Vettleson | OF | 45 |
| Garin Cecchini | SS | 47 |
| Sammy Solis | LHP | 48 |
| Perci Garner | RHP | 49 |
| Kellin Deglan | C | 51 |
| Christian Yelich | OF | 52 |
| Jason Adam | RHP | 54 |
| Delino DeShields Jr. | 2B | 55 |
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Nationals are on the clock with pick # 2-4.
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Ben, nice pick of Jedd Gyorko... one of my favorite players in the draft, but I couldn't stomach cutting two prospects on my 40-man to make room for his bonus.
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Remaining eligible players in BA's Top 200, with the position they went in the MLB draft and their BA ranking:
| Name | Pos | MLB | BA |
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| Chad Bettis | RHP | 76 | 33 |
| Seth Blair | RHP | 46 | 34 |
| Peter Tago | RHP | 47 | 36 |
| Jacob Petricka | RHP | 63 | 40 |
| Tyrell Jenkins | RHP | 50 | 43 |
| Mike Foltynewicz | RHP | 19 | 44 |
| Sammy Solis | LHP | 51 | 48 |
| Perci Garner | RHP | 77 | 49 |
| Jason Adam | RHP | 149 | 54 |
| Chance Ruffin | RHP | 48 | 57 |
| Robbie Aviles | RHP | 210 | 58 |
| Aaron Sanchez | RHP | 34 | 59 |
| Micah Gibbs | C | 97 | 60 |
| Jordan Swagerty | RHP | 75 | 61 |
| Griffin Murphy | LHP | 61 | 62 |
| Mike Kvasnicka | C | 33 | 63 |
| Austin Wates | 2B | 90 | 64 |
| Aaron Shipman | OF | 92 | 67 |
| Mathew Price | RHP | 263 | 68 |
| Robby Rowland | RHP | 88 | 71 |
| Drew Cisco | RHP | 187 | 74 |
| Tony Wolters | SS | 87 | 75 |
| Josh Slaats | RHP | 170 | 78 |
| Zach Cates | RHP | 91 | 79 |
| Kevin Chapman | LHP | 119 | 81 |
| Kevin Munson | RHP | 121 | 82 |
| Addison Reed | RHP | 95 | 83 |
| Kyle Blair | RHP | 120 | 84 |
| Drew Smyly | LHP | 68 | 86 |
| Rob Segedin | 3B | 112 | 88 |
| Andrelton Simmons | SS | 70 | 90 |
| Gauntlett Eldemire | OF | 201 | 93 |
| Reggie Golden | OF | 65 | 96 |
| Chevez Clarke | OF | 30 | 97 |
| Kendrick Perkins | OF | 203 | 99 |
| Leon Landry | OF | 109 | 100 |
| Angelo Gumbs | OF | 82 | 102 |
| Devin Lohman | SS | 94 | 103 |
| Sam Dyson | RHP | 126 | 106 |
| Jimmy Nelson | RHP | 64 | 107 |
| Rob Rasmussen | LHP | 73 | 108 |
| Justin Grimm | RHP | 166 | 109 |
| Mike Kickham | LHP | 198 | 110 |
| Marcus Littlewood | SS | 67 | 112 |
| Daniel Tillman | RHP | 81 | 113 |
| Chad Lewis | 3B | 125 | 115 |
| Jesse Biddle | LHP | 27 | 116 |
| Tyler Green | RHP | 241 | 120 |
| Jordan Cooper | RHP | 270 | 122 |
| Tyler Holt | 3B | 300 | 124 |
| Luke Jackson | RHP | 45 | 126 |
| Rob Brantly | C | 100 | 127 |
| Rick Hague | SS | 83 | 128 |
| Tony Thompson | 3B | 185 | 129 |
| Mel Rojas Jr. | OF | 84 | 135 |
| Christopher Hawkins | 3B | 93 | 136 |
| Donn Roach | RHP | 115 | 137 |
| Ryan Bolden | OF | 40 | 141 |
| Bobby Doran | RHP | 123 | 143 |
| John Barbato | RHP | 184 | 144 |
| Mason Williams | OF | 145 | 145 |
| Ryan Brett | 2B | 98 | 146 |
| Mark Canha | OF | 227 | 147 |
| Chris Bisson | 2B | 124 | 149 |
| Matt Suschak | RHP | 224 | 151 |
| Greg Peavey | RHP | 182 | 152 |
| Niko Goodrum | SS | 71 | 155 |
| Cody Buckel | RHP | 72 | 157 |
| Tyler Burgoon | RHP | 312 | 158 |
| Pat Dean | LHP | 102 | 159 |
| Cole Cook | RHP | 150 | 160 |
| Jake Thompson | RHP | 66 | 161 |
| J.R. Bradley | RHP | 56 | 162 |
| Kellen Sweeney | 3B | 69 | 164 |
| Cito Culver | SS | 32 | 168 |
| Mitchell Taylor | LHP | 216 | 170 |
| Matt Szczur | OF | 160 | 174 |
| Scott Alexander | LHP | 179 | 179 |
| Clay Schrader | RHP | 298 | 180 |
| Seth Rosin | RHP | 138 | 181 |
| Thomas Royse | RHP | 114 | 182 |
| Blake Forsythe | C | 89 | 183 |
| Nick Kingham | RHP | 117 | 186 |
| Cody Stanley | C | 139 | 187 |
| Tyler Thornburg | RHP | 96 | 190 |
| Matt den Dekker | OF | 152 | 192 |
| Nick Longmire | OF | 169 | 194 |
| Jimmy Reyes | LHP | 226 | 196 |
| Connor Narron | SS | 148 | 198 |
| Heath Hembree | RHP | 168 | 200 |
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Mets are up with picks 2-30 and 3-1.
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Remaining eligible players in BA's Top 200, with the position they went in the MLB draft and their BA ranking:
Updated After Pick 5-19:
| Name | Pos | MLB | BA |
+---------------------+------+-----+---------+
| Bobby Doran | RHP | 123 | 143 |
| John Barbato | RHP | 184 | 144 |
| Mason Williams | OF | 145 | 145 |
[ Ryan Brett [ 2B [ 98 146 ]
[ Josh Mueller [ RHP [ 410 ] 150 ]
| Matt Suschak | RHP | 224 | 151 |
| Greg Peavey | RHP | 182 | 152 |
| Niko Goodrum | SS | 71 | 155 |
[ Brian Guinn [ 2B [ 334 ] 156 ]
| Cody Buckel | RHP | 72 | 157 |
| Tyler Burgoon | RHP | 312 | 158 |
| Pat Dean | LHP | 102 | 159 |
| Cole Cook | RHP | 150 | 160 |
| J.R. Bradley | RHP | 56 | 162 |
| Mitchell Taylor | LHP | 216 | 170 |
[ Michael Goodnight [ RHP[ 390 [ 171 ]
[ Daniel Burawa [ RHP [ 385 [ 172 ]
| Matt Szczur | OF | 160 | 174 |
| Scott Alexander | LHP | 179 | 179 |
| Clay Schrader | RHP | 298 | 180 |
| Seth Rosin | RHP | 138 | 181 |
| Thomas Royse | RHP | 114 | 182 |
| Blake Forsythe | C | 89 | 183 |
[ Zach Neal [ RHP [ 527 [ 185 ]
| Nick Kingham | RHP | 117 | 186 |
[ Thomas Keeling [ RHP [ 549 ] 189 ]
| Nick Longmire | OF | 169 | 194 |
| Jimmy Reyes | LHP | 226 | 196 |
[ Chad Sheppard [ RHP [ 512 ] 197 ]
| Connor Narron | SS | 148 | 198 |
[ Dickie Joe Thon [ SS [ 156 [ 199 ]
| Heath Hembree | RHP | 168 | 200 |
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Next draft picks:
3-6 ARZ (from CWS from TOR)
3-7 SD
3-8 NYY (from BAL from PIT from LAA from CHC)
3-9 MIL (from OAK from CIN)
3-10 KC (from WAS from KC)
3-11 HOU
3-12 CLE (from CHC from CIN from TEX)
3-13 TOR
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Next draft picks. Available player list updated through pick 5-19:
5-20 KC (from COL from BAL from COL from OAK from STL from COL)
5-21 TB
5-22 COL (from ATL)
5-23 FL
5-24 MIN
5-25 COL (from STL from PIT from LAA)
5-26 NYM (from LAD)
5-27 BOS
5-28 PIT (from WAS from MIL)
X 5-29 CHC (from PHI) - FORFEITED
5-30 BAL (from NYY)
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Players with their draft position.Updated through pick 10-27:
| Name | Pos | MLB |
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Eric Cantrell RHP Kansas City 209
Jeff Shields RHP Arizona 211
Jeff Walters RHP NY Mets 212
Roberto Pena C Houston 213
Jordan Tripp OF Oakland 215
Tony Amezcua RHP Cincinnati 217
Tyler Saladino SS Chicago White Sox 218
Joel Pierce RHP Milwaukee 219
Ben Wells RHP Chicago Cubs 220
Mickey Wiswall 1B Seattle 222
Corey Jones 2B Detroit 223
Matt Hauser RHP Minnesota 225
Chuckie Jones OF San Francisco 228
Greg Garcia SS St Louis 229
Kraig Sitton LHP Colorado 230
David Buchanan RHP Philadelphia 231
Ryan Christenson LHP LA Dodgers 232
Jake Anderson OF NY Yankees 235
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Next draft picks. Available player list updated through pick 10-27:
10-28 MIL
10-29 PHI
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Everyone, please use the ProFSL search function, or, better yet, use your browser's find function on the first page of the draft tracker thread. These pick attempts would be avoided if people did a quick search for players already drafted.