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Title: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on September 15, 2010, 12:59:18 PM
Should we do this?  It could be set up as it is in Fran GM (MLB).  We'd need to agree on positional values though.  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 04, 2010, 01:16:17 PM
Should we do this?  It could be set up as it is in Fran GM (MLB).  We'd need to agree on positional values though.  Any thoughts?

 :bump:
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: bravesfan4 on November 04, 2010, 01:22:41 PM
Yes I fully think this would be a great thing to add to the league. Player will have to be established. Give me a few days and ill round up values. I think we all should and then agree on them once we form opinions.
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 04, 2010, 01:29:38 PM
Yes I fully think this would be a great thing to add to the league. Player will have to be established. Give me a few days and ill round up values. I think we all should and then agree on them once we form opinions.

that'd be very helpful
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 10, 2010, 10:26:50 PM
Heres my proposal.  Forwards make most money.  Goalies take get leverage, and defense gets cheaper but secures more people 1m.  Based on the passing of new scoring rules.


Centers
1) $9m
2) $9m
3) $8.5m
4) $8.5m
5) $8.5m
6) $8.5m
7) $8.0m
8) $8.0m
9) $8.0m
10) $8.0m
11) $7.5m
12) $7.5m
13) $7.5m
14) $7.5m
15) $7.0m
16) $7.0m
17) $7.0m
18) $7.0m
19) $6.5m
20) $6.5m
21) $6.5m
22) $6.5m
23) $6.5m
24) $6.0m
25) $6.0m
26) $6.0m
27) $6.0m
28) $6.0m
29) $5.5m
30) $5.5m
31) $5.5m
32) $5.5m
33) $5.5m
34) $5.5m
35) $5.0m
36) $5.0m
37) $5.0m
38) $5.0m
39) $5.0m
40) $5.0m
41) $4.5m
42) $4.5m
43) $4.5m
44) $4.5m
45) $4.5m
46) $4.0m
47) $4.0m
48) $4.0m
49) $4.0m
50) $4.0m
51) $4.0m
52) $3.5m
53) $3.5m
54) $3.5m
55) $3.5m
56) $3.5m
57) $3.0m
58) $3.0m
59) $3.0m
60) $3.0m
61) $3.0m
62) $3.0m
63) $3.0m
64) $2.5m
65) $2.5m
66) $2.5m
67) $2.5m
68) $2.5m
69) $2.5m
70) $2.5m
71) $2.5m
72) $2.0m
73) $2.0m
74) $2.0m
75) $2.0m
76) $2.0m
77) $1.5m
78) $1.5m
79) $1.5m
80) $1.5m
81) $1.5m
82) $1.5m
83) $1.0m
84) $1.0m
85) $1.0m
86) $1.0m
87) $1.0m
88) $1.0m
89) $1.0m
90) $1.0m

Right Wingers
1) $9m
2) $9m
3) $8.5m
4) $8.5m
5) $8.5m
6) $8.5m
7) $8.0m
8) $8.0m
9) $8.0m
10) $8.0m
11) $7.5m
12) $7.5m
13) $7.5m
14) $7.5m
15) $7.0m
16) $7.0m
17) $7.0m
18) $7.0m
19) $6.5m
20) $6.5m
21) $6.5m
22) $6.5m
23) $6.5m
24) $6.0m
25) $6.0m
26) $6.0m
27) $6.0m
28) $6.0m
29) $5.5m
30) $5.5m
31) $5.5m
32) $5.5m
33) $5.5m
34) $5.5m
35) $5.0m
36) $5.0m
37) $5.0m
38) $5.0m
39) $5.0m
40) $5.0m
41) $4.5m
42) $4.5m
43) $4.5m
44) $4.5m
45) $4.5m
46) $4.0m
47) $4.0m
48) $4.0m
49) $4.0m
50) $4.0m
51) $4.0m
52) $3.5m
53) $3.5m
54) $3.5m
55) $3.5m
56) $3.5m
57) $3.0m
58) $3.0m
59) $3.0m
60) $3.0m
61) $3.0m
62) $3.0m
63) $3.0m
64) $2.5m
65) $2.5m
66) $2.5m
67) $2.5m
68) $2.5m
69) $2.5m
70) $2.5m
71) $2.5m
72) $2.0m
73) $2.0m
74) $2.0m
75) $2.0m
76) $2.0m
77) $1.5m
78) $1.5m
79) $1.5m
80) $1.5m
81) $1.5m
82) $1.5m
83) $1.0m
84) $1.0m
85) $1.0m
86) $1.0m
87) $1.0m
88) $1.0m
89) $1.0m
90) $1.0m

Left Wingers
1) $9m
2) $9m
3) $8.5m
4) $8.5m
5) $8.5m
6) $8.5m
7) $8.0m
8) $8.0m
9) $8.0m
10) $8.0m
11) $7.5m
12) $7.5m
13) $7.5m
14) $7.5m
15) $7.0m
16) $7.0m
17) $7.0m
18) $7.0m
19) $6.5m
20) $6.5m
21) $6.5m
22) $6.5m
23) $6.5m
24) $6.0m
25) $6.0m
26) $6.0m
27) $6.0m
28) $6.0m
29) $5.5m
30) $5.5m
31) $5.5m
32) $5.5m
33) $5.5m
34) $5.5m
35) $5.0m
36) $5.0m
37) $5.0m
38) $5.0m
39) $5.0m
40) $5.0m
41) $4.5m
42) $4.5m
43) $4.5m
44) $4.5m
45) $4.5m
46) $4.0m
47) $4.0m
48) $4.0m
49) $4.0m
50) $4.0m
51) $4.0m
52) $3.5m
53) $3.5m
54) $3.5m
55) $3.5m
56) $3.5m
57) $3.0m
58) $3.0m
59) $3.0m
60) $3.0m
61) $3.0m
62) $3.0m
63) $3.0m
64) $2.5m
65) $2.5m
66) $2.5m
67) $2.5m
68) $2.5m
69) $2.5m
70) $2.5m
71) $2.5m
72) $2.0m
73) $2.0m
74) $2.0m
75) $2.0m
76) $2.0m
77) $1.5m
78) $1.5m
79) $1.5m
80) $1.5m
81) $1.5m
82) $1.5m
83) $1.0m
84) $1.0m
85) $1.0m
86) $1.0m
87) $1.0m
88) $1.0m
89) $1.0m
90) $1.0m

Defensemen
1) 8.0m
2) 8.0m
3) 7.5m
4) 7.5m
5) 7.5m
6) 7.5m
7) 7.0m
8) 7.0m
9) 7.0m
10) 7.0m
11) $6.5m
12) $6.5m
13) $6.5m
14) $6.5m
15) $6.5m
16) $6.0m
17) $6.0m
18) $6.0m
19) $6.0m
20) $6.0m
21) $5.5m
22) $5.5m
23) $5.5m
24) $5.5m
25) $5.5m
26) $5.5m
27) $5.0m
28) $5.0m
29) $5.0m
30) $5.0m
31) $5.0m
32) $5.0m
33) $4.5m
34) $4.5m
35) $4.5m
36) $4.5m
37) $4.5m
38) $4.0m
39) $4.0m
40) $4.0m
41) $4.0m
42) $4.0m
43) $4.0m
44) $3.5m
45) $3.5m
46) $3.5m
47) $3.5m
48) $3.5m
49) $3.0m
50) $3.0m
51) $3.0m
52) $3.0m
53) $3.0m
54) $3.0m
55) $3.0m
56) $2.5m
57) $2.5m
58) $2.5m
59) $2.5m
60) $2.5m
61) $2.5m
62) $2.5m
63) $2.5m
64) $2.0m
65) $2.0m
66) $2.0m
67) $2.0m
68) $2.0m
69) $1.5m
70) $1.5m
71) $1.5m
72) $1.5m
73) $1.5m
74) $1.5m
75) $1.0m
76) $1.0m
77) $1.0m
78) $1.0m
79) $1.0m
80) $1.0m
81) $1.0m
82) $1.0m
83) $1.0m
84) $1.0m
85) $1.0m
86) $1.0m
87) $1.0m
88) $1.0m
89) $1.0m
90) $1.0m
91) $1.0m
92) $1.0m
93) $1.0m
94) $1.0m
95) $1.0m
96) $1.0m
97) $1.0m
98) $1.0m
99) $1.0m
100) $1.0m

Goalies
1) $8.0m
2) $7.5m
3) $7.5m
4) $7.0m
5) $7.0m
6) $6.5m
7) $6.5m
8) $6.0m
9) $5.5m
10) $5.5m
11) $5.0m
12) $5.0m
13) $4.5m
14) $4.5m
15) $4.0m
16) $4.0m
17) $3.5m
18) $3.5m
19) $3.0m
20) $3.0m
21) $3.0m
22) $2.5m
23) $2.5m
24) $2.5m
25) $2.0m
26) $2.0m
27) $2.0m
28) $1.5m
29) $1.5m
30) $1.5m
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: Drew on November 11, 2010, 01:16:10 PM
Is this based on scoring rank?
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 11, 2010, 03:09:57 PM
Is this based on scoring rank?

30 teams x 3 starting centers = 90
30 teams x 3 starting RW = 90
30 teams x 1 starting goalie = 30
30 teams x 3 starting LW = 90
30 teams x 6 starting D = 180 but I decided only the top 100 should be mandated values.

just what I figured, that all starters should get good values.

Monetary values are based upon highest paid per position, I think, it was late HAHA
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: teddy369 on November 11, 2010, 03:19:45 PM
Bunches of questions come up.

As a whole, the salaries are too high. See here for comparison:
http://capgeek.com/leaders.php?type=CAP_HIT&position=All&max_results=50 (http://capgeek.com/leaders.php?type=CAP_HIT&position=All&max_results=50)

NHL 50th richest player makes 4.75Mil. In our league that number is 7.5 Mil.

If anything it should be lower than the NHL because these are considered resigning salaries, not free market prices (i.e. player's get a home town discount)

Next question is can we overpay to get a longer extension if we want to do so?

Final question: how do we decide a player's salary if he's been injured? Do they get the same sort of deals? What do we do for people who aren't ranked i.e. Backup goalies.
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 11, 2010, 04:00:05 PM
Bunches of questions come up.

As a whole, the salaries are too high. See here for comparison:
http://capgeek.com/leaders.php?type=CAP_HIT&position=All&max_results=50 (http://capgeek.com/leaders.php?type=CAP_HIT&position=All&max_results=50)

NHL 50th richest player makes 4.75Mil. In our league that number is 7.5 Mil.

If anything it should be lower than the NHL because these are considered resigning salaries, not free market prices (i.e. player's get a home town discount)

Next question is can we overpay to get a longer extension if we want to do so?

Final question: how do we decide a player's salary if he's been injured? Do they get the same sort of deals? What do we do for people who aren't ranked i.e. Backup goalies.

Numbers can be adjusted.  Also remember we can adjust the salary cap here.  Either way its alright.

You can always overpay, even when you sign free agents.

determining player value, is the highest ranking over the past two seasons.  it could be an average but either way.
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 15, 2010, 11:27:37 PM
C:


1   8.6
2   8.4
3   8.3
4   8.1
5   8
6   7.9
7   7.7
8   7.6
9   7.4
10   7.3
11   7.2
12   7.1
13   6.9
14   6.8
15   6.7
16   6.6
17   6.4
18   6.3
19   6.2
20   6.1
21   6
22   5.9
23   5.8
24   5.7
25   5.6
26   5.5
27   5.4
28   5.3
29   5.2
30   5.1
31   5
32   4.9
33   4.8
34   4.7
35   4.7
36   4.6
37   4.5
38   4.4
39   4.3
40   4.3
41   4.2
42   4.1
43   4
44   4
45   3.9
46   3.8
47   3.8
48   3.7
49   3.6
50   3.6
51   3.5
52   3.4
53   3.4
54   3.3
55   3.3
56   3.2
57   3.1
58   3.1
59   3
60   3
61   2.9
62   2.9
63   2.8
64   2.8
65   2.7
66   2.7
67   2.6
68   2.6
69   2.5
70   2.5
71   2.4
72   2.4
73   2.4
74   2.3
75   2.3
76   2.2
77   2.2
78   2.1
79   2.1
80   2.1
81   2
82   2
83   2
84   1.9
85   1.9
86   1.9
87   1.8
88   1.8
89   1.8
90   1.7
91   1.7
92   1.7
93   1.6
94   1.6
95   1.6
96   1.6
97   1.5
98   1.5
99   1.5
100   1.4
101   1.4
102   1.4
103   1.4
104   1.3
105   1.3
106   1.3
107   1.3
108   1.3
109   1.2
110   1.2
111   1.2
112   1.2
113   1.1
114   1.1
115   1.1
116   1.1
117   1.1
118   1
119   1
120   1
121   1
122   1
123   1
124   0.9
125   0.9
126   0.9
127   0.9
128   0.9
129   0.9
130   0.8
131   0.8
132   0.8
133   0.8
134   0.8
135   0.8
136   0.8
137   0.7
138   0.7
139   0.7
140   0.7
141   0.7
142   0.7
143   0.7
144   0.7
145   0.6
146   0.6
147   0.6
148   0.6
149   0.6
150   0.6

LW

1   8.5
2   8.3
3   8.1
4   7.9
5   7.7
6   7.5
7   7.3
8   7.1
9   6.9
10   6.7
11   6.6
12   6.4
13   6.2
14   6.1
15   5.9
16   5.8
17   5.6
18   5.5
19   5.3
20   5.2
21   5.1
22   4.9
23   4.8
24   4.7
25   4.6
26   4.5
27   4.3
28   4.2
29   4.1
30   4
31   3.9
32   3.8
33   3.7
34   3.6
35   3.5
36   3.4
37   3.3
38   3.3
39   3.2
40   3.1
41   3
42   2.9
43   2.9
44   2.8
45   2.7
46   2.6
47   2.6
48   2.5
49   2.4
50   2.4
51   2.3
52   2.3
53   2.2
54   2.1
55   2.1
56   2
57   2
58   1.9
59   1.9
60   1.8
61   1.8
62   1.7
63   1.7
64   1.7
65   1.6
66   1.6
67   1.5
68   1.5
69   1.5
70   1.4
71   1.4
72   1.3
73   1.3
74   1.3
75   1.2
76   1.2
77   1.2
78   1.2
79   1.1
80   1.1
81   1.1
82   1
83   1
84   1
85   1
86   0.9
87   0.9
88   0.9
89   0.9
90   0.8
91   0.8
92   0.8
93   0.8
94   0.8
95   0.7
96   0.7
97   0.7
98   0.7
99   0.7
100   0.6
101   0.6
102   0.6
103   0.6
104   0.6
105   0.6
106   0.6
107   0.5
108   0.5
109   0.5
110   0.5
111   0.5
112   0.5
113   0.5
114   0.5
115   0.4
116   0.4
117   0.4
118   0.4
119   0.4
120   0.4
121   0.4

RW
1   8.5
2   8.3
3   8.1
4   7.9
5   7.7
6   7.5
7   7.3
8   7.1
9   6.9
10   6.7
11   6.6
12   6.4
13   6.2
14   6.1
15   5.9
16   5.8
17   5.6
18   5.5
19   5.3
20   5.2
21   5.1
22   4.9
23   4.8
24   4.7
25   4.6
26   4.5
27   4.3
28   4.2
29   4.1
30   4
31   3.9
32   3.8
33   3.7
34   3.6
35   3.5
36   3.4
37   3.3
38   3.3
39   3.2
40   3.1
41   3
42   2.9
43   2.9
44   2.8
45   2.7
46   2.6
47   2.6
48   2.5
49   2.4
50   2.4
51   2.3
52   2.3
53   2.2
54   2.1
55   2.1
56   2
57   2
58   1.9
59   1.9
60   1.8
61   1.8
62   1.7
63   1.7
64   1.7
65   1.6
66   1.6
67   1.5
68   1.5
69   1.5
70   1.4
71   1.4
72   1.3
73   1.3
74   1.3
75   1.2
76   1.2
77   1.2
78   1.2
79   1.1
80   1.1
81   1.1
82   1
83   1
84   1
85   1
86   0.9
87   0.9
88   0.9
89   0.9
90   0.8
91   0.8
92   0.8
93   0.8
94   0.8
95   0.7
96   0.7
97   0.7
98   0.7
99   0.7
100   0.6
101   0.6
102   0.6
103   0.6
104   0.6
105   0.6
106   0.6
107   0.5

D:
1   7.2
2   7.1
3   7
4   7
5   6.9
6   6.8
7   6.7
8   6.6
9   6.6
10   6.5
11   6.4
12   6.3
13   6.2
14   6.2
15   6.1
16   6
17   6
18   5.9
19   5.8
20   5.7
21   5.7
22   5.6
23   5.5
24   5.5
25   5.4
26   5.3
27   5.3
28   5.2
29   5.2
30   5.1
31   5
32   5
33   4.9
34   4.9
35   4.8
36   4.7
37   4.7
38   4.6
39   4.6
40   4.5
41   4.5
42   4.4
43   4.4
44   4.3
45   4.3
46   4.2
47   4.2
48   4.1
49   4.1
50   4
51   4
52   3.9
53   3.9
54   3.8
55   3.8
56   3.7
57   3.7
58   3.6
59   3.6
60   3.6
61   3.5
62   3.5
63   3.4
64   3.4
65   3.3
66   3.3
67   3.3
68   3.2
69   3.2
70   3.2
71   3.1
72   3.1
73   3
74   3
75   3
76   2.9
77   2.9
78   2.9
79   2.8
80   2.8
81   2.8
82   2.7
83   2.7
84   2.7
85   2.6
86   2.6
87   2.6
88   2.5
89   2.5
90   2.5
91   2.4
92   2.4
93   2.4
94   2.4
95   2.3
96   2.3
97   2.3
98   2.3
99   2.2
100   2.2
101   2.2
102   2.1
103   2.1
104   2.1
105   2.1
106   2
107   2
108   2
109   2
110   2
111   1.9
112   1.9
113   1.9
114   1.9
115   1.8
116   1.8
117   1.8
118   1.8
119   1.8
120   1.7
121   1.7
122   1.7
123   1.7
124   1.6
125   1.6
126   1.6
127   1.6
128   1.6
129   1.6
130   1.5
131   1.5
132   1.5
133   1.5
134   1.5
135   1.4
136   1.4
137   1.4
138   1.4
139   1.4
140   1.4
141   1.3
142   1.3
143   1.3
144   1.3
145   1.3
146   1.3
147   1.3
148   1.2
149   1.2
150   1.2
151   1.2
152   1.2
153   1.2
154   1.2
155   1.1
156   1.1
157   1.1
158   1.1
159   1.1
160   1.1
161   1.1
162   1
163   1
164   1
165   1
166   1
167   1
168   1
169   1
170   0.9
171   0.9
172   0.9
173   0.9
174   0.9
175   0.9
176   0.9
177   0.9
178   0.9
179   0.9
180   0.8
181   0.8
182   0.8
183   0.8
184   0.8
185   0.8
186   0.8
187   0.8
188   0.8
189   0.8
190   0.7
191   0.7
192   0.7
193   0.7
194   0.7
195   0.7
196   0.7
197   0.7
198   0.7
199   0.7
200   0.7
201   0.7
202   0.6
203   0.6
204   0.6
205   0.6
206   0.6
207   0.6
208   0.6
209   0.6
210   0.6
211   0.6
212   0.6
213   0.6
214   0.6
215   0.6
216   0.5
217   0.5
218   0.5
219   0.5
220   0.5
221   0.5
222   0.5
223   0.5
224   0.5
225   0.5
226   0.5
227   0.5
228   0.5
229   0.5
230   0.5
231   0.5
232   0.5
233   0.4
234   0.4

G:
1   6.4
2   6.2
3   5.9
4   5.7
5   5.4
6   5.2
7   5
8   4.8
9   4.6
10   4.4
11   4.2
12   4
13   3.9
14   3.7
15   3.6
16   3.4
17   3.3
18   3.1
19   3
20   2.9
21   2.8
22   2.7
23   2.6
24   2.4
25   2.3
26   2.2
27   2.2
28   2.1
29   2
30   1.9
31   1.8
32   1.7
33   1.7
34   1.6
35   1.5
36   1.5
37   1.4
38   1.4
39   1.3
40   1.2
41   1.2
42   1.1
43   1.1
44   1.1
45   1
46   1
47   0.9
48   0.9
49   0.9
50   0.8
51   0.8
52   0.8
53   0.7
54   0.7
55   0.7
56   0.6
57   0.6
58   0.6
59   0.6
60   0.5
61   0.5
62   0.5
63   0.5
64   0.5
65   0.4

I think those are pretty good but theres a huge difference between LW and RW (which we might not want). Let me know what you think of them. If you want the spreadsheet let me know and I'll email it to you.


Thank you Ted, these look great.  Can we get votes to approve this?  Ted, if you want to, please attach the spreadsheet here in a post!  Need to get this done ASAP
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: Drew on November 16, 2010, 12:44:00 AM
I vote yes, just making sure this is by ranking by position? Or else I still don't understand?
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 16, 2010, 09:57:00 AM
Player ranking will be based upon the two previous years.  Highest ranking between those two years is the players value.

I vote yes on the whole thing..that's two
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: teddy369 on November 16, 2010, 11:10:36 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: teddy369 on November 16, 2010, 03:24:57 PM
Player ranking will be based upon the two previous years.  Highest ranking between those two years is the players value.

How do in-season extensions work. Do we use the current year as one of the 2 years or is it the previous 2 complete seasons?
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 16, 2010, 04:25:52 PM
How do in-season extensions work. Do we use the current year as one of the 2 years or is it the previous 2 complete seasons?

Current and last season.  Maybe we should do current, last, and the year before last if it's before the trade deadline?
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: teddy369 on November 16, 2010, 04:28:31 PM
Current and last season.  Maybe we should do current, last, and the year before last if it's before the trade deadline?

I like that. Yes from me.
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 16, 2010, 04:33:41 PM
I like that. Yes from me.

highest of the three...no averaging or that mess.
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: Drew on November 16, 2010, 05:35:19 PM
This is gonna be hard to do, the easiest would be just to use last years numbers along with their numbers so far up until the signing. So if they were the 30 ranked player last season in their category and so far the best player at #1 then average it out to 15th. After trade deadline no signing players until you are out of playoffs or playoffs are over, then it goes by the completed season (ex. 2010-2011 season) ranking. How does that sounds??
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 16, 2010, 05:46:48 PM
This is gonna be hard to do, the easiest would be just to use last years numbers along with their numbers so far up until the signing. So if they were the 30 ranked player last season in their category and so far the best player at #1 then average it out to 15th. After trade deadline no signing players until you are out of playoffs or playoffs are over, then it goes by the completed season (ex. 2010-2011 season) ranking. How does that sounds??
Honestly I like the numbers ted has, it's relatively easy, and it works in other leagues I'm in. 
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: Drew on November 16, 2010, 05:51:02 PM
Yes I also like Ted's numbers I am just saying for a ranking system
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 16, 2010, 05:54:08 PM
Yes I also like Ted's numbers I am just saying for a ranking system

It's pretty easy.  just go to fantrax>players> and figure out your players positional ranking for the three years, then equate.  If you're extending you should be paying for the most expensive year no?  It's not the free market.
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: Drew on November 16, 2010, 06:06:44 PM
It's pretty easy.  just go to fantrax>players> and figure out your players positional ranking for the three years, then equate.  If you're extending you should be paying for the most expensive year no?  It's not the free market.

Still not getting it, how do you figure this out on fantrax?
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: Drew on November 16, 2010, 06:12:00 PM
Ok so possibly figured it out now, so according to fantrax for example Andrew Brunette in the past 2 years including this ones highest ranking was 16th therefore his extension would have to be at a value of $5.8m which would mean a 4 year deal at $5.8m per year or a total salary of 5.8m which would mean 3 years at 1.9m per year??
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 16, 2010, 06:17:49 PM
Ok so possibly figured it out now, so according to fantrax for example Andrew Brunette in the past 2 years including this ones highest ranking was 16th therefore his extension would have to be at a value of $5.8m which would mean a 4 year deal at $5.8m per year or a total salary of 5.8m which would mean 3 years at 1.9m per year??

close, his value is 5.8m per year.
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: Drew on November 16, 2010, 06:24:43 PM
close, his value is 5.8m per year.

Ok but according to our contracts it would have to be 4 year contract then. So currently he is on a 2.2m contract is this a justified raise for a 37 year old, I don't think anyone will sign players to extensions as it may be possible just to get players cheaper in free agency. Wouldn't signing extensions usually mean you can get the player cheaper?
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 16, 2010, 06:29:23 PM
Ok but according to our contracts it would have to be 4 year contract then. So currently he is on a 2.2m contract is this a justified raise for a 37 year old, I don't think anyone will sign players to extensions as it may be possible just to get players cheaper in free agency. Wouldn't signing extensions usually mean you can get the player cheaper?

Im not convinced it means they're cheaper.  Just protected.  Its your decision to judge value.  Maybe the numbers are a little off but I don't think so.  The equation is close to the NHL.
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: Drew on November 16, 2010, 06:33:18 PM
Im not convinced it means they're cheaper.  Just protected.  Its your decision to judge value.  Maybe the numbers are a little off but I don't think so.  The equation is close to the NHL.

Ok ya I guess that works, I am in. I guess each manager can make the decision on each player. Yes let's amend this
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: teddy369 on November 16, 2010, 06:49:24 PM
I don't know how we can change the numbers. The big cog in the wrench is that you take their best year (so because of that you can have lots of 1st lw and 2nd lw etc if you know what I mean) so the values are pretty high. We can scale the numbers back but then that could mean consistent players get really cheap.
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: Drew on November 16, 2010, 06:52:09 PM
I am down with averaging this years with last years. That is what I was thinking cuz if 3 different LWs lead league in scoring in 2 different years they all get high end salary
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 16, 2010, 08:05:27 PM
It'd certainly keep the extensions well thought out.

What would an extension for a guy like stamkos look like if we he were extended?
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: Drew on November 16, 2010, 08:29:29 PM
It'd certainly keep the extensions well thought out.

What would an extension for a guy like stamkos look like if we he were extended?

1st so far this year and 4th last year so that would be 2.5 and I say we always round up so therefore he would fall into the #2 ranking and get that contract.
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 16, 2010, 08:30:56 PM
1st so far this year and 4th last year so that would be 2.5 and I say we always round up so therefore he would fall into the #2 ranking and get that contract.

Id be ok trying it with averages.  We can always adjust if needed.
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: Drew on November 16, 2010, 10:29:11 PM
Ya cool, so amend it now haha. Another question when do amendments take place, like for example the scoring amendment? I obviously vote yes
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: teddy369 on November 16, 2010, 11:20:53 PM
Average is wrong too.. someone like Parise was 3rd last year and 74th this year (probably going down) for an average of 38th. That's way too low for a guy like him..I think taking the best year is better but that would need to include dropping the salaries a bit
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 16, 2010, 11:25:52 PM
Ok so we're going with highest overall.  Not average.
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: Drew on November 16, 2010, 11:38:41 PM
Ya I was thinking about injuries as well because that will mess up salaries bad. I was thinking more of Savard though when I was looking at it. Maybe just raising salary cap for next year would be easier then changing all the values. But whatever I am a yes
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: bravesfan4 on November 17, 2010, 03:05:32 PM
I agree with Ted's numbers. It looks great.

Secondly Im in favor of your highest rank in the last two years. I do not think we should average them out. Too many factors can lead to a bad season and allow you to get a guy super cheap.
Title: Re: Extensions
Post by: joeshmoe on November 17, 2010, 03:14:18 PM
I agree.... :judge: this is approved.  4 yes votes!  I will write up the official rule ASAP. Good job gents  :toth: