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Fantasy Leagues => Franchise GM: Transactions => Franchise GM => MLB Leagues => Franchise GM: Invalid Transactions => Topic started by: Dan Wood on July 28, 2010, 01:09:08 PM
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With the signing deadline around the corner, would anyone mind posting BP's Top 60, or 100 draft picks for this years entry draft, so those of us without a subscription can take a look at it? Please and thank you.
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Can I get a draft pick if I show you the lists?
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That would be a negative but nice try
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I am curious, how does the default draft ranking work? BA only shows top 200 and BP shows a lot less. The default ranking is going to run out of players before the 8th round....
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Damned if I know. All I care about is rounds 2, 3, and 6
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It's also stupid that owners who can't tell apart Taillon from Arlie can still draft good players. Ratherr than use a default ranking, owners that miss their picks should get players sorted alphabetically.
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I think anyone playing in a 30 team league should at least have some knowledge of players that were just drafted. Otherwise they won't last too long in this league. Our current crop GM's seem to be very knowledgeable, so I don't think having a default is a problem, nor will it be given the current league participation from just about everyone. I don't think the default draft will be used all that often, so I have no problem of it being used. Some people just won't have the time, but I don't see that as a frequent occurrence.
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It's also stupid that owners who can't tell apart Taillon from Arlie can still draft good players. Ratherr than use a default ranking, owners that miss their picks should get players sorted alphabetically.
I draft alphabetically anyway... :rofl:
~MTK
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It's also stupid that owners who can't tell apart Taillon from Arlie can still draft good players. Ratherr than use a default ranking, owners that miss their picks should get players sorted alphabetically.
I need to politely disagree. It would be much more fun, and appealing for replacement GMs, if the league remains some what balanced. In a system which talent is distributed based on alphabetical prioritization it would become almost silly if we gave bad teams nobodies. Maybe I'm off but just my opinion.
On another note, I wouldn't be providing lists for other GMs. Draft boards are held private and GMs will often use the media to throw a rival off. Im not sharing my thoughts on whose best. If you need a list, google it!
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If we are using a certain list to gauge how much we have pay our picks, then it should be made available to everyone. I don't want it for knowledge - I already have that - I want it to know what it is going to cost me. If it isn't going to be made readily available to all the GMs by the league, then it should be used as a monetary guideline.
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I agree with Dan. If thats what were gona use as a guide it needs to be posted. preferably sooner the better, that way the people trying to acquire picks can see what the value would be
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http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2010/drafttracker.jsp (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2010/drafttracker.jsp)
Here this site, it is very useful. The only it does not do is tell who signed and who didn't.
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Thanks Rob, but the problem still remains that we are using someone's rankings as the jump off for what it is going to cost us to sign our draft picks - I believe it is BP. We as GM's need to see those particular rankings prior to the draft. Since the trade deadline is just about over, I think it is best to post this list in the near future, so people can start working on their draft strategies, and to get a feel for the rankings.
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Yes the list needs to be published and cemented well before the draft. Colby had suggested BP back when we wrote the rules, but if no one has an account then any source will do - we just need to post it and have the RC approve that it looks like a good representation.
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I think more than a handful of people in this league have an account with BP. But if I am wrong, or if no one wants to share it, I will jump on the grenade and pay the 4.95 for the month to use it. But, that is if we want to use it. Since the draft itself is not an accurate representation of talent and rankings.
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Thanks Rob, but the problem still remains that we are using someone's rankings as the jump off for what it is going to cost us to sign our draft picks - I believe it is BP. We as GM's need to see those particular rankings prior to the draft. Since the trade deadline is just about over, I think it is best to post this list in the near future, so people can start working on their draft strategies, and to get a feel for the rankings.
That was my main pt., get others prepared. I know there is still the rankings list needed, but this can help unfamiliar managers get prepared.
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By the way, I am wondering when the draft will take place. Does it start in the off-season or before? If the latter, what happens if the draft doesn't end before the offseason starts? It's a concern because the trading restriction is no longer in place during the offseason and teams could conceivably be trading their draft picks.
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If anyone has an ESPN Insider account, looks like Law has a top 100 list:
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft2010/insider/news/story?id=5239359&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmlb%2fdraft2010%2finsider%2fnews%2fstory%3fid%3d5239359 (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft2010/insider/news/story?id=5239359&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmlb%2fdraft2010%2finsider%2fnews%2fstory%3fid%3d5239359)
Here is a composite top 50 list:
http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2010/04/2010-composite-mlb-draft-prospect.html (http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2010/04/2010-composite-mlb-draft-prospect.html)
Also, a continuously updating list of who has signed can be found here:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2010xrnd.php?rnd=1 (http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2010xrnd.php?rnd=1)
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By the way, I am wondering when the draft will take place. Does it start in the off-season or before? If the latter, what happens if the draft doesn't end before the offseason starts? It's a concern because the trading restriction is no longer in place during the offseason and teams could conceivably be trading their draft picks.
Teams may not trade until after the draft as the draft is considered to be a part of the 2010 season.
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Guys,
I agree with Dan. It's time for someone to buy an account with BP and post this info. I'm willing to share the cost just to move this along. Since the RC came up with the idea, we should fund it.
Roy
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I am a suscriber to both BA and BP:
BP's list is not useful at all, I think KG only posts the first 30.
BA has the top 200 lists, it's much more useful.
So if you guys are gonna get a suscription, BA would be the way to go.
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Guys,
I propose that we use Keith Law's top 100 list posted on ESPN as a substitute to BP given this new info. I have an ESPN Insider accouint. I'm willing to paste the info into a Word or Excel file and send it to Colby to post on this site.
Roy
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Is posting such material allowed per the subscriptions? I guess it depends how the information is posted.
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We don't need to post their lists per se, but if someone emails it to Colby he can generate our signing bonus list... then we all just recognize/trust it is based off Law's list, but do not advertise/post it as such (no one searching google is going to find Keith Law's Top 100 with the list on our board). Will that fly?
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We don't need to post their lists per se, but if someone emails it to Colby he can generate our signing bonus list... then we all just recognize/trust it is based off Law's list, but do not advertise/post it as such (no one searching google is going to find Keith Law's Top 100 with the list on our board). Will that fly?
Another question, as he is relatively new to me, but is Law a reliable resource?
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Law is very good, project prospect might have something up as well. I am sure if you search for law's list you can find it. Minor league ball might have one as well. It would be best if we could come up with the average mean for all of these players, since some guys are higher on certain players. I will look either tonight or tomorrow and post, or if Colb wants to send me a global that I can respond to, and send it to everyone, that would work too.
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Another question, as he is relatively new to me, but is Law a reliable resource?
I don't think he's the best, but his lists seem to be in the discussions with the BA and the BP lists... personally I think BA is probably the most reliable source, and would say lets go with that one if anyone has an account - if not Law, should be just fine. Really we only need a list that is reasonable (doesn't need to be perfect), since it will be posted well before the draft and everyone will adjust accordingly and outside of the top few picks we just need the tiers to be reasonable (aka rankings between 18-31 all get the same bonus).
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Just realized something, BA's ranks are free:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-preview/2010/2610039.html (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-preview/2010/2610039.html)
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We need a list for both the signing bonuses and a pre-ranking list for all 10 rounds. This will be something that is needed every year, so I would be willing to purchase something that ProFSL can use.
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Just realized something, BA's ranks are free:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-preview/2010/2610039.html (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-preview/2010/2610039.html)
Done... good find.
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Just realized something, BA's ranks are free:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-preview/2010/2610039.html (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-preview/2010/2610039.html)
Nice, what do we do for default rankings outside of the top 200 picks? At that point it doesn't hurt to forfeit the pick if a team doesn't draft a player in time.
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We need a list for both the signing bonuses and a pre-ranking list for all 10 rounds. This will be something that is needed every year, so I would be willing to purchase something that ProFSL can use.
I think a top 200 is probably as good as we're gonna get - outside of that, most auto-draft players won't make an EDR anyway (into the 6th round).
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Nice, what do we do for default rankings outside of the top 200 picks? At that point it doesn't hurt to forfeit the pick if a team doesn't draft a player in time.
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Exactly, I think the top 200 is fine (after that you snooze you lose, submit a proxy pick).
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Is EDR still 10 players or is it 20?
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Exactly, I think the top 200 is fine (after that you snooze you lose, submit a proxy pick).
Why not just automatically take the player that was chosen in that spot - if he was already taken, then just go to the next guy that hasn't been drafted. Since we don't have supplemental rounds, we are getting players almost a round earlier than MLB.
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Is EDR still 10 players or is it 20?
EDR expands to 15 players after the draft, so you have to fit the draftees into your current 10.
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Why not just automatically take the player that was chosen in that spot - if he was already taken, then just go to the next guy that hasn't been drafted. Since we don't have supplemental rounds, we are getting players almost a round earlier than MLB.
That would work for me... after the top 200, default to the actual MLB draft results for the auto-pick list.
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I think we've sorted out most of the problems, when does the draft start?
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I think we've sorted out most of the problems, when does the draft start?
September 15th at noon EST
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EDR expands to 15 players after the draft, so you have to fit the draftees into your current 10.
I dont really see why we cant have the EDR expanded to 15 as we draft but have a rule that only draftees can be added after 10 are on your EDR. So then you can draft and put them in your EDR, isnt that what its for?
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I dont really see why we cant have the EDR expanded to 15 as we draft but have a rule that only draftees can be added after 10 are on your EDR. So then you can draft and put them in your EDR, isnt that what its for?
It is, but it is not for any of the players you currently have on your EDR - those are the exception.
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