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Title: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: OUDAN on June 12, 2012, 09:33:28 PM
:NYY: would like to drop the following players in order to get back under the cap

CI Hinze, Kody, $0.5m (P-n/a)
P Krol, Ian, $0.5m (P-n/a)
OF Russell, Kyle, $0.5m (2013)   
OF Spilborghs, Ryan, $1.5m (2012)   
P Elbert, Scott, $0.5m (P-2014)   
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: h4cheng on June 12, 2012, 09:40:25 PM
Dan: I can process these but just so you are aware only 1.5M is cleared, dropping Russel and  Spilborghs does not clear cap space. Please confirm you want to proceed.
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: OUDAN on June 12, 2012, 09:44:11 PM
Drop the guys that create the 1.5 mil please
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: OUDAN on June 12, 2012, 11:23:29 PM
Also please release Andres Torres
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: h4cheng on June 13, 2012, 09:12:13 AM
Dropping Torres will open up 1M in cap space. Dan, do you want to forfeit your bids on Berry and Pod, you need to open up another 1.5M in cap space to sign those two.
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: rcankosy on June 13, 2012, 10:00:36 AM
Quote from: h4cheng on June 13, 2012, 09:12:13 AM
Dropping Torres will open up 1M in cap space. Dan, do you want to forfeit your bids on Berry and Pod, you need to open up another 1.5M in cap space to sign those two.

I don't believe that the bids on Berry and Pod can be rescinded, because they were major league bids.  We went through this last year with Wily Mo Pena.  Dan needs to make a trade or cut more prospects.
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: OUDAN on June 13, 2012, 10:05:28 AM
Ill give up those bids if its possible. I was running off the I thought updated rosters and made all these trades under that assumption so I am very sorry rcan that u r so upset.
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: rcankosy on June 13, 2012, 10:09:17 AM
Quote from: OUDAN on June 13, 2012, 10:05:28 AM
Ill give up those bids if its possible. I was running off the I thought updated rosters and made all these trades under that assumption so I am very sorry rcan that u r so upset.

I'm sorry, but I don't believe that you can give up those bids without opening up a HUGE can of worms and creating a new precedent.  We have NEVER let owners walk away from bids.  In my opinion, we are all responsible for managing our salary caps whether the rosters are updated or not.
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: OUDAN on June 13, 2012, 10:17:32 AM
Can there be a ruling on this before I decide what Im doing
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: h4cheng on June 13, 2012, 10:24:07 AM
I will let DW decide this one but there was precedent set before:

http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=54348.msg292833#msg292833
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: OUDAN on June 13, 2012, 10:54:19 AM
If there has already been a precedent then I dont expect it to be changed
Please Drop

P Font, Wilmer, $0.5m (P-n/a)   
CI Hinze, Kody, $0.5m (P-n/a)
P Krol, Ian, $0.5m (P-n/a)
P Elbert, Scott, $0.5m (P-2014) 

This will clear 1.5m I will work on the rest 
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: Dan Wood on June 13, 2012, 11:10:32 AM
There was a precedent set with AJ Ellis...remember Roy? He is currently on your roster and not on the Blue Jays... Berry goes back on the block to the next highest bidder...Pods - OU is responsible for since there wasn't a previous bidder...OU has also been made aware that he will be losing draft picks because of his FA indiscretion.

And Wily Mo didn't put you over the cap...you just didn't want him anymore...so technically by your argument I should strip AJ Ellis from your roster and add him to the Jays...is that what I am to understand Roy?
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: OUDAN on June 13, 2012, 11:32:10 AM
I like your thinking there DW, I know I will lose draft picks its my fault. I have dropped 4 people that should clear 2 mil the rest will be address asap
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: h4cheng on June 13, 2012, 11:40:43 AM
Dan, this is your current roster, including all Prospect Contract drops, signing of Accardo, and dropping of Torres. (There was a mistake in the prior version of the roster. Rutledge should not on the EDR so an extra 50k of salary is added)


New York Yankees :NYY:
Last Updated: 6/13/12
General Manager: Daniel Pruett
ProFSL ID: OUDAN (http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=1310)

Team Budget (2012-2017)
Base Salary: $183m$195m$139.5m$117.5m$67.5m$17m
Cash Add-ons (near bottom of page): $43.5m$8.5m$4.5m$0m$0m$0m
EDR Uncounted edrpayary: $6.5m$6.5m$6.5m$6.5m$6.5m$6.5m
Total salary on Books: $220m$197m$137.5m$111m$61m$10.5m
Salary Caps by Year: $219.5m$222m$210.5m$203.5m$203.5m$203.5m
Cap Room by Year: $-0.5m$25m$73m$92.5m$142.5m$193m
Roster Violation as of 6/13/12: - over current cap
*Note that 2012-2013 salary caps are set in stone, future caps are estimates

Roster (34/40 players, cash add-ons below)
C Napoli, Mike, $5m (2012)$5m
C Olivo, Miguel, $1.5m (2014), signed 3/22/12$1.5m$1.5m$1.5m
CI Cabrera, Miguel, $19m (2015)$19m$19m$19m$19m
CI Drury, Brandon, $0.5m (P-n/a), signed 1/21/12$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
CI Hawpe, Brad, $5m (2013)$5m$5m
CI Morneau, Justin, $13.5m (2013)$13.5m$13.5m
CI-OF Bautista, Jose, $27.5m (2016)$27.5m$27.5m$27.5m$27.5m$27.5m
CI-OF Lee, Carlos, $6m (2013)$6m$6m
CI-OF Morse, Mike, $1.5m (2013)$1.5m$1.5m
MI DeJesus, Ivan, $0.5m (P-n/a)$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
MI Jeter, Derek, $11.5m (2013)$11.5m$11.5m
MI Kendrick, Howie, $8m (2015)$8m$8m$8m$8m
MI Phelps, Cord, $0.5m (P-n/a)$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
MI Rutledge, Josh, $0.5m (2017)$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
MI Simmons, Andrelton, $0.5m (P-n/a)$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
OF Brentz, Bryce, $0.5m (P-n/a)$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
OF Crawford, Carl, $12m (2014)$12m$12m$12m
OF Russell, Kyle, $0.5m (2013)$0.5m$0.5m
OF Spilborghs, Ryan, $1.5m (2012)$1.5m
P Aceves, Alfredo, $0.5m (2014)$0.5m$5m$5m
P Benoit, Joaquin, $1.5m (2013)$1.5m$1.5m
P Byrdak, Tim, $0.5m (2013)$0.5m$0.5m
P Feliz, Neftali, $0.5m (2017)$0.5m$5m$5m$5m$5m$5m
P Guthrie, Jeremy, $4m (2013)$4m$4m
P Logan, Boone, $1m (2014)$1m$1.5m$1.5m
P Rodriguez, Fernando, $0.5m (P-n/a), signed 6/18/11$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
P Smyly, Drew, $0.5m (P-n/a)$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
SP Hernandez, Felix, $23m (2016)$23m$23m$23m$23m$23m
SP Sabathia, CC, $23m (2015)$23m$23m$23m$23m
SP Sanchez, Anibal, $11.5m (2013)$11.5m$11.5m
P Pryor, Stephen, $0.5m (2017), signed 5/31/12$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
SP Fiers, Michael, $0.5m (2017), signed 6/3/12$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
SP Walter, PJ, $2m (2014), signed 5/25/12$2m$2m$2m
SP Accardo, Jeremy, $0.5m (2012)$0.5m
 
EDR: Entry-Draft Roster (13/15 players)
C Holaday, Bryan, $0.5m (P-n/a)$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
MI Bartolone, Nick, $0.5m (P-n/a)$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
MI Tulvailala, Sam, $0.5m (P-n/a)$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
OF Keyes, Kevin, $0.5m (P-n/a)$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
P Burdi, Nick, $0.5m (P-n/a), signed 9/16/11$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
P Cederoth, Michael, $0.5m (P-n/a), signed 9/25/11$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
P Hebner, Cody, $0.5m (P-n/a), signed 9/22/11$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
P Kingham, Nick, $0.5m (P-n/a)$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
P Perry, Blake, $0.5m (P-n/a)$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
P Smith, Kyle, $0.5m (P-n/a), signed 9/11/11$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
P Vail, Tyler, $0.5m (P-n/a)$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
SP Gardeck, Ian, $0.5m (P-n/a), signed 9/26/11$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
SP Zych, Tony, $0.5m (P-n/a), signed 9/4/11$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m

Cash Exchanges, Cap Hits, and Signing Bonuses
X-C Powell, Landon, Released Under Contract, $0.5m in 2012$0.5m
X-CI Cabrera, Miguel, Cash Exchange on Contract through 2012, $-3.5m in 2012$-3.5m
X-CI Cabrera, Miguel, Cash Exchange on Contract through 2012, $7m in 2012$7m
X-CI Hawpe, Brad, Cash Exchange on Contract through 2012, $-5m in 2012$-5m
X-CI Hinze, Kody, Signing Bonus 2012, $0.5m in 2012$0.5m
X-CI Jones, Chipper, Released Under Contract, $3.5m in 2012$3.5m
X-CI Olt, Mike, Cash Exchange on Contract through 2012, $0.5m in 2012$0.5m
X-CI Young, Michael, Cash Exchange on Contract 2012, $5m in 2012$5m
X-CI-MI Lopez, Felipe, Released Under Contract, $2m in 2012$2m
X-CI-OF Lee, Carlos, Cash exchanged on Contract 2012, $-5m in 2012$-5m
X-MI Jeter, Derek, Cash Exchange on Contract through 2013, $-5.5m in 2012$-5.5m$-5m
X-OF Byrd, Marlon, Cash Exchange on Contract through 2012, $5m in 2012$5m
X-OF Crawford, Carl, Cash Exchange on Contract through 2014, $-4m in 2012$-4m$-4m$-4m
X-OF Holliday, Matt, Cash Exchange on Contract through 2012, $m in 2012$5m$5m
X-OF Scott, Luke, Cash Exchanged on Contract through 2012, $-2.5m in 2012$-2.5m
X-OF Scott, Luke, Released Under Contract, $6m in 2012$6m$3m
X-OF Suzuki, Ichiro, Cash Exchange on Contract in 2011, $6m in 2012$6m
X-OF Swisher, Nick, Cash Exchanged on Contract (2012), $3m in 2012$3m
X-OF Torres, Andres, Released Under Contract, $6.5m in 2012$6.5m$4.5m$2.5m
X-OF Werth, Jayson, Cash Exchanged on Contract (2011 - 2013), $5m in 2012$5m$3m
X-P Bass, Anthony, Released under Contract, $0.5m in 2012$0.5m
X-P Guthrie, Jeremy, Cash Exchanged on Contract in 2012, $2m in 2012$2m
X-P Hensley, Clay, Released Under Contract, $0.5m in 2012$0.5m
X-P Webster, Allen, Cash Exchange on Contract through 2012, $0.5m in 2012$0.5m
X-P Wilhelmsen, Tom, Released Under Contract, $0.5m in 2012$0.5m
X-P Guthrie, Jeremy, Cash exchanged on Contract 2013, $-1m in 2012$-1m$-1.5m
X-P Guthrie, Jeremy, Cash exchanged on Contract 2013, $1m in 2012$1m$1.5m
X-RP Capps, Matt, Released Under Contract, $1m in 2012$1m
X-RP Jenks, Bobby, Released Under Contract, $2m in 2012$2m
X-RP Soriano, Rafael, Released Under Contract, $1.5m in 2012$1.5m
X-SP Beckett, Josh, Cash Exchanged on Contract (2011 - 2013), $3m in 2012$3m$3m
X-SP Burnett, A.J., Cash Exchange on Contract through 2012, $6m in 2012$6m
X-SP Hernandez, Felix, Cash Exchange on Contract through 2012, $-5.5m in 2012$-5.5m
X-SP Sanchez, Anibal, Cash Exchange on Contract through 2012, $-2m in 2012$-2m
X-SP Willis, Dontrelle, Released Under Contract, $2m in 2012$2m
X-SP Fiers, Michael, Signing Bonus 2012, $2m in 2012$2m
X-P Benoit, Joaquin, Cash exchanged on Contract 2012, $-1m in 2012$-1m
X-CI-OF Lee, Carlos, Cash exchanged on Contract 2013, $-0.5m in 2012$-0.5m$-4m
X-CI-OF Cuddyer, Michael, Cash exchanged on Contract 2014, $2.5m in 2012$2.5m$3m$1m
X-RP Thayer, Dale, Cash exchanged on Contract 2014, $0.5m in 2012$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m$0.5m
X-RP Thayer, Dale, Signing Bonus 2012, $0.5m in 2012$0.5m
 
2012 Draft Picks (10 picks)
1-28 NYY
2-28 NYY
3-28 NYY
4-28 NYY
5-28 NYY
6-28 NYY
7-28 NYY
8-28 NYY
9-28 NYY
10-28 NYY
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: rcankosy on June 13, 2012, 11:55:14 AM
Quote from: Dan Wood on June 13, 2012, 11:10:32 AM
There was a precedent set with AJ Ellis...remember Roy? He is currently on your roster and not on the Blue Jays... Berry goes back on the block to the next highest bidder...Pods - OU is responsible for since there wasn't a previous bidder...OU has also been made aware that he will be losing draft picks because of his FA indiscretion.

And Wily Mo didn't put you over the cap...you just didn't want him anymore...so technically by your argument I should strip AJ Ellis from your roster and add him to the Jays...is that what I am to understand Roy?

It was my understanding that Ellis was taken from the former owner due to extenuating circumstances beyond finances that I believe should remain private out of respect to the parties involved.

PM me if you wish to discuss this further.





Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: OUDAN on June 13, 2012, 12:02:01 PM
I am keeping Torres only dropping the 4 specs for now so how much more shall i look to clear?
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: Dan Wood on June 13, 2012, 12:06:59 PM
Ellis was put back into bidding because the owner couldn't cover the check, and did not within a week after being asked to do so. So rather than pick and choose who to drop, it was decided that it was best to offer Ellis back to the league. That owner lost a draft pick because of his excessive bidding. It is the same situation here. OU has paid his fine via picks, and dropped players to get to cap (almost), Berry will be added back to bidding. Since there are no other bids on Pods, OU is responsible for that contract. Those owners, in on Berry, will be given the opportunity to have their bids validated or not. Much in the same way the Ellis situation presented itself. 

Unfortunately this is a situation that has only presented itself twice in which punishment has had to be doled out, and I do not enjoy it. I understand that one can lose track of their finances, and this has been considered when deciding on the measures taken in both cases. I have also discussed this with the two league commissioners and they agree with the actions that will be taken.
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: Dan Wood on June 13, 2012, 12:10:18 PM
Adding Torres back to your roster will add an additional one million to your most recent roster posting. Leaving you +1.5 mil.  You still have to cover Podsednik +.5...should you choose to keep Berry + 1.5, then you need to cover him as well.
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: OUDAN on June 13, 2012, 12:12:06 PM
Ok so if I keep berry I need 4 mil otherwise I need 2.5 more room?
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: Dan Wood on June 13, 2012, 12:15:23 PM
Right now you are at +.5
Torres is + 1
Pod is + .5

so you would have to clear an additional 2 mil, 3.5 if you want Berry
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: OUDAN on June 13, 2012, 12:23:55 PM
So far just drop those 4 specs im workin on a trade as we speak
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: OUDAN on June 13, 2012, 04:55:13 PM
:NYY: would also like to drop P Rodriguez, Fernando, $0.5m (P-n/a)
With that and this trade I should be at the cap

http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=61824.0
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: Dan Wood on June 13, 2012, 06:01:21 PM
Are you signing Berry?
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: OUDAN on June 13, 2012, 06:16:45 PM
Knew I forgot something thought I was done but no I will let whoever else have him
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: h4cheng on June 13, 2012, 10:46:18 PM
Processed on Excel:

All prospect drops + Torres drop.
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: Dan Wood on June 13, 2012, 11:38:46 PM
He's holding on to Torres
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: Daniel on June 14, 2012, 09:39:52 AM
When Ellis was given away, it was my fault for not logging in for a couple of weeks in which I was extremely busy, I knew which players I was dropping to open the cap space, but he was awarded to the next high bidder because of my lateness. I never asked to withdraw my bid, yet the set precedent exists I guess.
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: Colby on June 14, 2012, 12:14:05 PM
Quote from: Daniel on June 14, 2012, 09:39:52 AM
When Ellis was given away, it was my fault for not logging in for a couple of weeks in which I was extremely busy, I knew which players I was dropping to open the cap space, but he was awarded to the next high bidder because of my lateness. I never asked to withdraw my bid, yet the set precedent exists I guess.

 :iatp:
Title: Re: Yanks Roster moves
Post by: Paul S. on June 18, 2012, 06:15:01 PM
 :iatp: