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Title: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: OriolesGirl on April 30, 2010, 10:35:49 AM
The Cubs needed to round out their roster, and I needed some pitching, so it looks like we are perfect trade partners here.

Cubs send to :BAL:
CI Jones, Chipper, $13.5m (2012) + $8m in 2011, $4.5m in 2012
SP Romero, Ricky, $0.5m (P-2012)
RP Gray, Jeff, $0.5m (P-n/a)
RP Angel Guzman $2 (2012)
6-20 CHC (from COL)

:BAL: send to Cubs
OF Montanez, Luis, $0.5m (P-2012)
MI Izturis, Cesar, $2.5m (2010)
CI Encarnacion, Edwin, $4m (2010)
P Albers, Matt, $0.5m (P-2010)
3-8 BAL (from PIT from LAA from CHC)
3-20 BAL (from COL)

Mike, great dealin' with ya.  I take on a headache of a contract in Chipper, but we designed this trade, so that I dropped him after the deadline this year then I would not owe money in 2011 or 2012.  I may end up trading Chipper again to a competitor, so this can all work out.  Cubs needed some MLB support just to field a roster.  I give up two top draft picks and a potentially good reliever in Albers to basially get Ricky Romero.

Title: Re: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: bridgestone on April 30, 2010, 10:53:12 AM
Cubs send to :BAL:
CI Jones, Chipper, $13.5m (2012) + $8m in 2011, $4.5m in 2012
SP Romero, Ricky, $0.5m (P-2012)
RP Gray, Jeff, $0.5m (P-n/a)
RP Angel Guzman $2 (2012)
6-20 CHC (from COL)

:BAL: send to Cubs
OF Montanez, Luis, $0.5m (P-2012)
MI Izturis, Cesar, $2.5m (2010)
CI Encarnacion, Edwin, $4m (2010)
P Albers, Matt, $0.5m (P-2010)
3-8 BAL (from PIT from LAA from CHC)
3-20 BAL (from COL)

I accept.. this widdles my contract woes down to Buerhle who is signed only through 2011.  I thought my Cubs could compete a while back, but I am a Cubs fan and I should know better.  I have worked hard to trade away big contracts for smaller ones while acquiring young talent and draft picks.  It is tough to see Romero go, but it is a responsibility of mine to field a proper MLB lineup. plus I am not sure if Romero can last a full season.  He reminds me of the Pirates Jeff Karstens (a bit better though)... perhaps not a starter as the innings get to him.
Title: Re: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: Needle Juice on April 30, 2010, 11:00:47 AM
 :iatp:

Romero is the best player in the trade, if his 2nd half numbers are improved on last year.  The Chipper coverage was smart.  Encarnacion could still pan out, I guess.
Title: Re: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: Mr.TradeKing on April 30, 2010, 11:10:26 AM
just 1 question....If your paying for Chipper's buyout, why are you doing this trade? I think you did this trade just to get him off of your roster....

~MTK
Title: Re: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: bridgestone on April 30, 2010, 11:16:01 AM
just 1 question....If your paying for Chipper's buyout, why are you doing this trade? I think you did this trade just to get him off of your roster....

~MTK

I am essentially covering the fees for the buyout post-2010.  This frees me of his contract, fills out my MLB roster, upgrades my draft picks, and gives me some cap room.  I am going to use that cap room to go after some FA and become a cash dump for teams willing to give prospects.
Title: Re: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: Colby on April 30, 2010, 07:20:04 PM
Need another approval
Title: Re: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: BHows on May 01, 2010, 04:40:00 AM
Approved
Title: Re: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: guak2005 on May 02, 2010, 02:43:41 AM
There's a problem with this trade, you can't trade more money in the future than in the present from what I understand. That means that the O's can't pay for Chipper's contract in 2011 and 2012 unless they are covering at least the same amount in the present year.
Title: Re: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: Colby on May 02, 2010, 12:25:52 PM
There's a problem with this trade, you can't trade more money in the future than in the present from what I understand. That means that the O's can't pay for Chipper's contract in 2011 and 2012 unless they are covering at least the same amount in the present year.

Not true... it is perfectly fine to do that as long as it is covered by the contract.
Title: Re: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: Canada8999 on May 02, 2010, 02:33:44 PM
Not true... it is perfectly fine to do that as long as it is covered by the contract.

Correct - I don't think we have any rules for how the cash needs to be structured, other than it cannot exceed the annual salary.
Title: Re: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: Colby on May 02, 2010, 04:42:33 PM
Cubs send to :BAL:
CI Jones, Chipper, $13.5m (2012) + $8m in 2011, $4.5m in 2012
SP Romero, Ricky, $0.5m (P-2012)
RP Gray, Jeff, $0.5m (P-n/a)
RP Angel Guzman $2 (2012)
6-20 CHC (from COL)

:BAL: send to Cubs
OF Montanez, Luis, $0.5m (P-2012)
MI Izturis, Cesar, $2.5m (2010)
CI Encarnacion, Edwin, $4m (2010)
P Albers, Matt, $0.5m (P-2010)
3-8 BAL (from PIT from LAA from CHC)
3-20 BAL (from COL)

Guzman is not on the Cubs anymore.  I need you two to re-verify this trade.
Title: Re: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: bridgestone on May 02, 2010, 04:53:43 PM
New deal... I assume that this slight change keeps it approved?

Cubs send to :BAL:
CI Jones, Chipper, $13.5m (2012) + $8m in 2011, $4.5m in 2012
SP Romero, Ricky, $0.5m (P-2012)
RP Gray, Jeff, $0.5m (P-n/a)
6-20 CHC (from COL)

:BAL: send to Cubs
OF Montanez, Luis, $0.5m (P-2012)
MI Izturis, Cesar, $2.5m (2010)
CI Encarnacion, Edwin, $4m (2010)
P Albers, Matt, $0.5m (P-2010)
3-8 BAL (from PIT from LAA from CHC)
3-20 BAL (from COL)

:CHC: droppings
OF Reddick, Josh, $0.5m (P-n/a)
P McAllister, Zach, $0.5m (P-n/a)
Title: Re: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: OriolesGirl on May 02, 2010, 05:01:55 PM
New deal... I assume that this slight change keeps it approved?

Cubs send to :BAL:
CI Jones, Chipper, $13.5m (2012) + $8m in 2011, $4.5m in 2012
SP Romero, Ricky, $0.5m (P-2012)
RP Gray, Jeff, $0.5m (P-n/a)
6-20 CHC (from COL)

:BAL: send to Cubs
OF Montanez, Luis, $0.5m (P-2012)
MI Izturis, Cesar, $2.5m (2010)
CI Encarnacion, Edwin, $4m (2010)
P Albers, Matt, $0.5m (P-2010)
3-8 BAL (from PIT from LAA from CHC)
3-20 BAL (from COL)


I approve... same deal except I don't take on Guzman's contract.  Missed the roster update fo him not on the Cubs.  Cubs apparently forgot!  Colby, thanks for the PM about this one.  Can we get it processed today at all?
Title: Re: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: Needle Juice on May 02, 2010, 05:05:40 PM
Approved.
Title: Re: Cubs & O's fill needs
Post by: Colby on May 02, 2010, 05:08:41 PM
New deal... I assume that this slight change keeps it approved?

Cubs send to :BAL:
CI Jones, Chipper, $13.5m (2012) + $8m in 2011, $4.5m in 2012
SP Romero, Ricky, $0.5m (P-2012)
RP Gray, Jeff, $0.5m (P-n/a)
6-20 CHC (from COL)

:BAL: send to Cubs
OF Montanez, Luis, $0.5m (P-2012)
MI Izturis, Cesar, $2.5m (2010)
CI Encarnacion, Edwin, $4m (2010)
P Albers, Matt, $0.5m (P-2010)
3-8 BAL (from PIT from LAA from CHC)
3-20 BAL (from COL)

:CHC: droppings
OF Reddick, Josh, $0.5m (P-n/a)
P McAllister, Zach, $0.5m (P-n/a)

I'll make an executive decision on this one due to the quick responses and that I am processing moves today.  As far as I see it, Guzman is more a liability than an asset considering his $6m in total through 2012 and his injured season this year.  I see no reason why the guys wouldn't approve this deal yet again.

 :judge: