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Title: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: molinator on October 01, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
drop:
P Holmes, Clay, $m (2010) (I dont know he got into my roste  :o)
P Barbato, John, $0.5m (P-n/a)
CI-MI Tejada, Miguel, $6m (2011)

Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: molinator on October 01, 2011, 04:46:40 PM
Marlins re-sign:

P Breslow, Craig, $0.5m (P-2011) ----------> P Breslow, Craig, $0.5m (2012)
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: molinator on October 02, 2011, 07:51:30 PM
Re-Sign:
P Sanches, Brian, $0.5m (P-2011) ----------> P Sanches, Brian, $0.5m (P-2012)

Compensation:
P McCarthy, Brandon, $0.5m (2011) Type B: 47th


Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: Dan Wood on October 05, 2011, 08:29:45 PM
Sanchez can no longer be signed to a prospect contract once his prospect eligibility ends. You can either sign him to a prospect extension (4 mil at a minimum of 5 years) or sign him to a guaranteed contract of .5 for 1 year.
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: molinator on October 05, 2011, 09:40:38 PM
Sanchez can no longer be signed to a prospect contract once his prospect eligibility ends. You can either sign him to a prospect extension (4 mil at a minimum of 5 years) or sign him to a guaranteed contract of .5 for 1 year.

Thanks for the reminder  :thumbsup: P Sanches, Brian, $0.5m (P-2011) ----------> P Sanches, Brian, $0.5m (2012)  :judge:
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: MillerTime on October 11, 2011, 01:37:42 PM
Breslow and Sanchez signings appear to be after the deadline.  Unless someone can show me why, these are invalid. 
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: molinator on October 11, 2011, 03:21:13 PM
Breslow and Sanchez signings appear to be after the deadline.  Unless someone can show me why, these are invalid.
Yeah Breslow is 2 hours after deadline and Sanchez is 1 day after deadline  :o If I cannot re-sign them, please drop them and that should clear my 1m over cap.

Thanks
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: shooter47 on October 11, 2011, 03:25:43 PM
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Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: molinator on October 11, 2011, 03:31:40 PM
Dropping sanches would clear 0.5M of cap space but dropping breslow would do nothing for your cap space because he would still have a cap hit of 0.5M for this year.  You would still need to clear an extra 0.5M of cap space.
Why? Breslow contract is the same as Sanchez's contract P Breslow, Craig, $0.5m (P-2011), P Sanchez, Brian, $0.5m (P-2011)
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: shooter47 on October 11, 2011, 03:36:21 PM
Why? Breslow contract is the same as Sanchez's contract P Breslow, Craig, $0.5m (P-2011), P Sanchez, Brian, $0.5m (P-2011)

You are correct it is the same... I misread his contract on your roster page when I looked.  It will clear the 1M in cap space for you.
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: molinator on October 11, 2011, 03:39:45 PM
You are correct it is the same... I misread his contract on your roster page when I looked.  It will clear the 1M in cap space for you.
No problem  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: Dan Wood on October 11, 2011, 08:41:25 PM
sanches and breslow should be allowed to be signed because they are prospects...
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: molinator on October 11, 2011, 09:00:59 PM
sanches and breslow should be allowed to be signed because they are prospects...
Thats what I thought... If I can re-sign them, I would drop someone else  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: shooter47 on October 12, 2011, 08:42:02 AM
sanches and breslow should be allowed to be signed because they are prospects...

They could be re-signed to prospect extensions of 5a years at a minimum of 4m. They can't however be signed to a one or two year 0.5m deal. Only prospect extensions on prospects are allowed after the season ends.
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: Dan Wood on October 12, 2011, 08:49:20 PM
"Any player who is currently under a prospect contract may be signed to a regular contract extension (see below), but they may also be signed to a prospect extension. "
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: molinator on October 12, 2011, 10:36:40 PM
Ok. After reading over the rules, I would like to re-sign P Breslow, Craig, $0.5m (P-2011)   ---------> P Breslow, Craig, $0.5m (2012)   and drop P Devine, Joey, $0.5m (P-2011) + P Sanches, Brian, $0.5m (P-2011) to get under the cap  :judge:
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: shooter47 on October 13, 2011, 10:01:25 AM
"Any player who is currently under a prospect contract may be signed to a regular contract extension (see below), but they may also be signed to a prospect extension. "

The following is from the rules regarding prospect extensions.

Prospect Extension (went into effect after 2010 season)
Any player who is currently under a prospect contract may be signed to a regular contract extension (see below), but they may also be signed to a prospect extension.  Such an extension must be a 5-year deal where the annual salary is X% of their market value.  The resulting annual salary must be no less than $4m.  No matter what the current prospect contract is, the prospect extension kicks in the following year at the rate based on when the contract is given.

For the 20XX season, the following percentages would be used per prospect status.

20XX - 60%
20XX+1 - 50%
20XX+2 - 40%
20XX+3, n/a - 30%

There is a window after the season in which the multipliers above are still in effect.  This was a rule effective June 16th, 2011 for expiring prospect contracts.  Prospect extensions on expired prospect contracts will be the only type of extensions allowable for expired contracts in the offseason.  Therefore, after the 2011 regular season is over, a P-2011 contract is still eligible for the prospect extension at the 2011 rate.  This window for prospect extensions is open until one week prior to the beginning of offseason free agency.

Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: shooter47 on October 13, 2011, 10:05:04 AM
The wording under the prospect extension states that the only type of extension in the offseason is a prospect extension on a prospect contract.  Even though they are on expired prospect contracts they can't be extended on regular contracts.  They would need to be prospect extensions.
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: Paul S. on October 13, 2011, 01:36:18 PM
Since the Marlins missed the deadline for regular extensions Breslow can only be signed to a prospect extension of $4m (2016).  Someone from the RC might need to verify that that was the intent of the rule change.
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: Dan Wood on October 13, 2011, 01:49:23 PM
The way I view it is the extra two weeks is to extend your prospects, either to a regular extension or a prospect extension. And that is the way the rule is worded. So if someone else from the RC would like to chime in please do so.
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: shooter47 on October 13, 2011, 01:52:36 PM
The way I view it is the extra two weeks is to extend your prospects, either to a regular extension or a prospect extension. And that is the way the rule is worded. So if someone else from the RC would like to chime in please do so.

Not sure I am interpreting the following which is the wording under prospects extensions under contracts in the rules. 

There is a window after the season in which the multipliers above are still in effect.  This was a rule effective June 16th, 2011 for expiring prospect contracts.  Prospect extensions on expired prospect contracts will be the only type of extensions allowable for expired contracts in the offseason.  Therefore, after the 2011 regular season is over, a P-2011 contract is still eligible for the prospect extension at the 2011 rate.  This window for prospect extensions is open until one week prior to the beginning of offseason free agency.

When I read the bolded line it clearly states that PROSPECT EXTENSIONS on expired PROSPECT CONTRACTS are the only type of extensions allowable in the offseason.  To me this would mean that an expired contract needs to be extended using a prospect extension and not a regular extension.
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: Dan Wood on October 13, 2011, 01:56:59 PM
I'm perfectly fine with that, but the league rules are contradictory. The purpose of the rule was to give GMs extra time with prospect players, that teams in real life have more control over.
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: shooter47 on October 13, 2011, 03:21:55 PM
I'm perfectly fine with that, but the league rules are contradictory. The purpose of the rule was to give GMs extra time with prospect players, that teams in real life have more control over.

I don't really agree that the rules are contradictory. They do state that a prospect can be signed to a regular extension or a prospect extension.  However they also clearly state that the prospect extension is the only way they can be extended in the offseason.  I understand that the rule was designed to give a team more time to decide on a player but in real life most teams don't re-sign a prospect to a one year minimum deal either.  I am just stating what the rule currently states in our rulebook.  The rule that was agreed upon by the RC.
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: h4cheng on October 13, 2011, 03:32:24 PM
My interpretation has always been that these two weeks are for only rookie extension (not regular extension) only on those eligible players.
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: Colby on October 13, 2011, 04:15:21 PM
My interpretation has always been that these two weeks are for only rookie extension (not regular extension) only on those eligible players.

 :iatp: for expiring players.  Expired veteran contracts for 2011 are toast at this point.
Title: Re: Miami Marlins moves
Post by: h4cheng on December 04, 2011, 09:40:09 PM
Breslow is dropped.