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Title: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: chrisetc21 on December 22, 2016, 07:35:20 PM
Astros Trade
Raimel Tapia (P)
Brock Holt 4th ($606k)
Jordan Jankowski 2nd ($400k)
Mallex Smith 2nd ($400k)
Lorenzo Cedrola (P)

Giants Trade
Jackie Bradley 3rd ($480k)
Jose Ramirez 5th ($880k)

Astros make the trade to cash in some prospects, upgrade a couple of positions, and clear a roster spot at the same time.  Giants to confirm, thanks to them.
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: Brian on December 22, 2016, 08:31:12 PM
giants agree to trade. i make this trade to add some young promising players to my team.in doing that i move two great players in  bradley and  ramariez. in giving up these players i add 3 players that i can  build my team around right know.
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: Jss0062 on December 22, 2016, 08:38:25 PM
Is it butler or Bradley ?
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: chrisetc21 on December 22, 2016, 08:53:07 PM
It's Bradley, fixed.
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: Brian on December 22, 2016, 09:41:12 PM
once trade gets approved please add all 3 of to my major roster
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: ldsjayhawk on December 22, 2016, 09:49:35 PM
 :iatp:
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: leppardkev on December 22, 2016, 09:57:24 PM
 :iatp:
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: Mets Donations Accepted on December 22, 2016, 11:27:05 PM
 :iatp:
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: Jss0062 on December 22, 2016, 11:42:15 PM
jose or rafael, I'm not finding a rafael ramirez
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: Vanadio on December 22, 2016, 11:58:09 PM
:iatp:
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: kidd5jersey on December 23, 2016, 12:09:57 AM
 :veto:

TRASH! Two players go to Houston on dirt cheap deals who scored 1000+ points for Mallex, Jank, and Holt who didn't have a combined 1000. Additionally, the prospect return is garbage. Tapia is good but the Cuban is at least four years away. This package deserves a way better package. Not close.
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: chrisetc21 on December 23, 2016, 12:35:26 AM
It's Jose, was in a hurry with all the trades
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: chrisetc21 on December 23, 2016, 01:18:25 AM
:veto:

TRASH! Two players go to Houston on dirt cheap deals who scored 1000+ points for Mallex, Jank, and Holt who didn't have a combined 1000. Additionally, the prospect return is garbage. Tapia is good but the Cuban is at least four years away. This package deserves a way better package. Not close.

You seem to have some rage issues.

Raimel Tapia is #71 on mlb's top prospects list which is a higher ranking than any prospect in your entire system.  Lorenzo Cedrola is a top 20 Gulf Coast League prospect for Baseball America and ranked one spot lower than Austin Franklin on that list.  Franklin was a third round pick in this year's draft.  So a top 100 guy and an equivalent value to a 3rd round pick is hardly anything close to garbage.

Mallex, Jank, and Holt factually did score more than 1,000 combined and would have scored more if not for Mallex breaking his thumb and Holt having a nagging shoulder injury and fluke concussion.

In addition, Bradley's 2017 projected Arb figure is $3.3m and up from there in 2018 so the Astros are adding salary here by giving up prospects and 2nd year Arb deals.
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: Jss0062 on December 23, 2016, 03:07:33 AM
 :iatp:
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: kidd5jersey on December 23, 2016, 07:48:35 AM
You seem to have some rage issues.

Raimel Tapia is #71 on mlb's top prospects list which is a higher ranking than any prospect in your entire system.  Lorenzo Cedrola is a top 20 Gulf Coast League prospect for Baseball America and ranked one spot lower than Austin Franklin on that list.  Franklin was a third round pick in this year's draft.  So a top 100 guy and an equivalent value to a 3rd round pick is hardly anything close to garbage.

Mallex, Jank, and Holt factually did score more than 1,000 combined and would have scored more if not for Mallex breaking his thumb and Holt having a nagging shoulder injury and fluke concussion.

In addition, Bradley's 2017 projected Arb figure is $3.3m and up from there in 2018 so the Astros are adding salary here by giving up prospects and 2nd year Arb deals.

Mallex is garbage. I've watched him too many times and all he contributes is speed. Jankowski had a super over achieving year. He does not have a good pedigree at all. Holt is a utility infielder. Tapia, I said he was good although he isn't a world beater. Cedrola isn't even top ten in his system and still hasn't gotten out of rookie ball.

Bradley is a gold Glover who finally found his swing at the major league level. Ramirez helped carry Cleveland all year.

My system has nothing to do with this trade. I have a few top 100 along with guys on the fast track. I probably have 40-45 top 30s which is better than most.

God forbid if someone says your trade is trash.
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: Maydab23 on December 23, 2016, 08:01:36 AM
This is a classic Astros trade in which they clearly come out "winners" IMO.

That said, no collusion and even if I think one side "won" it doesn't matter because I believe both owners are acting in good faith and trying to do what they believe is best for their club and I respect that.

 :iatp:

PS please don't cite others "crappy" farm systems to justify trades. That has nothing to do with this trade.
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: RSmetana on December 24, 2016, 06:58:59 AM
:iatp:
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: chrisetc21 on December 25, 2016, 05:41:06 PM
7 Approvals
1 Veto

Trade Passes
Title: Re: Trade: Astros / Giants
Post by: chrisetc21 on December 25, 2016, 05:54:10 PM
FanTraxed and complete