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Title: Cubs - Cardinals Trade 12-10-16 7:44 am ET
Post by: jpmanchester on December 10, 2016, 03:57:41 AM
Cubs Trade:
CI Rios, Edwin, $0.5m (P-n/a)
C Scivicque, Kade, $0.5m (P-n/a)
CI/MI Forsythe, Logan, $16m (2020)

Cardinals:
MI Tulowitzki, Troy, $15m (2017)

Cubs agree. Story was much better than I anticipated, so I have extra MI. Looking for a one year backup MI, between Tulo and Rivera I should be good. And frees up some salary for future years after bringing Wright's $20M on board too. Had to add in a couple extra specs to make the deal work, but I think we both got what we needed. A long term MI and a short term MI. Thanks for the smooth negotiations. Cardinals to confirm when they can.
Title: Re: Cubs - Cardinals Trade
Post by: RyanJames5 on December 10, 2016, 08:44:37 AM
:STL: confirms.

I make this trade partly to give me a solid MI going forward. The contract on Forsythe is pretty awful, but he has produced more than Tulo the last 2 years and should continue that trend for the next few. I also needed to deal Tulo as he is more or less unable to be extended so I would have lost him next year anyway. Thanks for the easy negotiations!
Title: Re: Cubs - Cardinals Trade 12-10-16 7:44 am ET
Post by: Anthony on December 10, 2016, 09:00:53 PM
 :iatp:
Title: Re: Cubs - Cardinals Trade 12-10-16 7:44 am ET
Post by: ldsjayhawk on December 11, 2016, 03:22:59 AM
 :iatp:
Title: Re: Cubs - Cardinals Trade 12-10-16 7:44 am ET
Post by: BHows on December 11, 2016, 11:02:59 AM
Can't put my finger on the reason I don't like this trade so  :iatp:
Title: Re: Cubs - Cardinals Trade 12-10-16 7:44 am ET
Post by: Flash on December 11, 2016, 12:55:51 PM
Cubs Trade:
CI Rios, Edwin, $0.5m (P-n/a)
C Scivicque, Kade, $0.5m (P-n/a)
CI/MI Forsythe, Logan, $16m (2020)

Cardinals:
MI Tulowitzki, Troy, $15m (2017)

Cubs agree. Story was much better than I anticipated, so I have extra MI. Looking for a one year backup MI, between Tulo and Rivera I should be good. And frees up some salary for future years after bringing Wright's $20M on board too. Had to add in a couple extra specs to make the deal work, but I think we both got what we needed. A long term MI and a short term MI. Thanks for the smooth negotiations. Cardinals to confirm when they can.

I can't really see any upside for the :STL: in this deal.  I understand how valuable productive MIs are in this league, but that $16.0m (2020) contract is simply awful.  Is Forsythe really that "solid"?  I understand Tulowitzki's health history, but if that is really a concern, why not simply get some more cost effective insurance in free agency? There are much better options in the free agent pool, and given Tulowitzki's expiring contract, with comparable production, I just don't get it.  The deal helps the :CHC: in a big way--getting rid of a terrible contract is a big plus.  As for the prospects, neither of them seem to be a negligible loss or gain.

This trade will be approved because it already has three approvals, but I will cast my disapproval anyway.

 :veto:
Title: Re: Cubs - Cardinals Trade 12-10-16 7:44 am ET
Post by: RyanJames5 on December 12, 2016, 12:33:50 AM
I know I don't need to respond to the veto, but I think it's ridiculous. The only reason anyone likes Tulo more is Colorado based production. Over the last 2 years Forsythe has Scored almost 1500 points more than Tulo. He's less of an injury risk and he's 3 years younger than Tulo. Sure the contract is awful, but I know what a premium middle infielders are in this league and Tulo is not extendable. The 70% rule means it would cost almost twice what he's worth to extend him. So while I still likely need to sign one middle infielder this year, I didn't want to set myself up to need to sign one this year and next.
Title: Re: Cubs - Cardinals Trade 12-10-16 7:44 am ET
Post by: Flash on December 12, 2016, 11:12:42 AM
48 hour viewing period has passed, with 3 approvals and 1 "ridiculous" veto :rofl:

Trade approved.
Title: Re: Cubs - Cardinals Trade 12-10-16 7:44 am ET
Post by: Flash on December 12, 2016, 11:15:47 AM
Fantraxed 12-12-16
Title: Re: Cubs - Cardinals Trade 12-10-16 7:44 am ET
Post by: BHows on December 16, 2016, 08:25:59 PM
48 hour viewing period has passed, with 3 approvals and 1 "ridiculous" veto :rofl:

Trade approved.

 :judge: