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Trade is done for obvious reasons on both sides (Marlins acquire assets for future and Pirates get a top 50 SP for our run this year)...
:PIT: sends to :FL:
SP Von Rosenberg, Zack, $0.5m (P-n/a)
MI Valdez, Wilson, $0.5m (2012)
RP Street, Huston, $2.5m (2012)
:FL: sends to :PIT:
SP Oswalt, Roy, $14.5m (2011)
X-SP Oswalt, Roy, Cash Exchanged on Contract (2011), $-12m in 2011
Street's a good reliever, but I have depth there and I can't pass the chance of a healthy Oswalt down the stretch. Thanks Samuel.
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And the Fish confirms :judge: We were looking to trade Oswalt because we can't afford to re-sign him, we get one of Pittsburgh top prospects, and also acquire the fish new closer Street, and some depth in the lineup... Pittsburgh obtain a top SP to compete this year and also gets under the cap :thumbsup:
Thanks for the easy negotations Colby :toast:
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Great return on Oswalt.
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I don't think the Marlins received enough for Oswalt. Rosenberg isn't that great of a tout - 7.00 ERA in A ball, Street is 2.5 mil for a reliever, which is pretty bad considering what you can get in the FA reliever market, and Wilson Valdez is just not a good player.
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I don't think the Marlins received enough for Oswalt. Rosenberg isn't that great of a tout - 7.00 ERA in A ball, Street is 2.5 mil for a reliever, which is pretty bad considering what you can get in the FA reliever market, and Wilson Valdez is just not a good player.
not that it matters but i agree
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I don't think the Marlins received enough for Oswalt. Rosenberg isn't that great of a tout - 7.00 ERA in A ball, Street is 2.5 mil for a reliever, which is pretty bad considering what you can get in the FA reliever market, and Wilson Valdez is just not a good player.
In normal circumstances I would agree but Oswalt is not completely healthy, he wasn't pitching that great before he got hurt and he is most likely a 2 and a half month rental. I don't see Oswalt getting more than 8-10 starts for the rest of this year anyway.
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In normal circumstances I would agree but Oswalt is not completely healthy, he wasn't pitching that great before he got hurt and he is most likely a 2 and a half month rental. I don't see Oswalt getting more than 8-10 starts for the rest of this year anyway.
Oswalt as of today is showing signs of returning, and even pitching poorly as he has, he still has averaged 40+ points a game on the year (making him very valuable to a team in a playoff hunt - enter innings cap limit argument here). Plus a good majority of his salary is being covered. If the salary wasn't being covered then I have no problem with the deal, but Samuel is taking on money in this deal for this year and next, plus he isn't getting back any real youth or value. We have all discussed that closers are relatively useless in this league, so taking on one at 2.5 mil for this year and next is helping out the Pirates more than it is helping out the Marlins, Valdez is a part time player - and not a good one, and Von Rosenberg is stinking up the joint in A-ball - that is how I view the deal. The possibility of a healthy Oswalt is better than the more costly collection of nothing the Marlins are getting. I don't see the upside here for the Marlins. So I will not approve the deal.
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This is why I don believe in this TC, two teams agree in a change, this change is not making any big impact on the league balance, All of this comments are made from your own opinion of this trade and if you would have done it or not. this is not what the idea is.
Here the idea is to look out for an important impact to the league balance or an illegal trade, or some team domping all the big players into another team.
Just an opinion :bla:
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This is why I don believe in this TC, two teams agree in a change, this change is not making any big impact on the league balance, All of this comments are made from your own opinion of this trade and if you would have done it or not. this is not what the idea is.
Here the idea is to look out for an important impact to the league balance or an illegal trade, or some team domping all the big players into another team.
Just an opinion :bla:
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This is why I don believe in this TC, two teams agree in a change, this change is not making any big impact on the league balance, All of this comments are made from your own opinion of this trade and if you would have done it or not. this is not what the idea is.
Here the idea is to look out for an important impact to the league balance or an illegal trade, or some team domping all the big players into another team.
Just an opinion :bla:
+1 It isn't up to the trade committee to like a return. Teams get housed in deals all the time, IRL. And that doesn't speak to whether this is or is not a foul trade. It seems fine to me. And, Molinator hasn't been here for 2 weeks, this isn't the first trade he has seen.
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It is up to the TC to decide if a trade is fair or not. In my opinion, as stated above, i do not believe it is. So in your opinion just because a guy has been here longer than two weeks the tc shouldn't have an opinion on their deals, which would completely make the TC obsolete. The whole basis of the TC is to like the return on players because that is what a trade is, for both teams, a return on players. Or maybe I am just missing the point of the TC. So all the trades that the rox made that you guys were up in arms about would have been fine as long as he waited a few extra weeks to do them I guess.
ok so the first guy to offer me a pile of dried leaves for kevin youkilis gets him, cause i've seen my share of trades and i know what i am doing...
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It is up to the TC to decide if a trade is fair or not. In my opinion, as stated above, i do not believe it is. So in your opinion just because a guy has been here longer than two weeks the tc shouldn't have an opinion on their deals, which would completely make the TC obsolete. The whole basis of the TC is to like the return on players because that is what a trade is, for both teams, a return on players. Or maybe I am just missing the point of the TC. So all the trades that the rox made that you guys were up in arms about would have been fine as long as he waited a few extra weeks to do them I guess.
ok so the first guy to offer me a pile of dried leaves for kevin youkilis gets him, cause i've seen my share of trades and i know what i am doing...
I've got some of the Maple variety that may be of interest to you, but you'd have to throw in a mid-level spec as well....now if you'll excuse me, "I got a guy on the other line about some white walls."
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The bottom line is that the Marlins need something in return in the next two weeks or lose him. He shopped him on the block and got a return he approved of. That is how this process should work.
Von Rosenberg is projectable and pitched better last year than this year. Street will get some points and contract is not ridiculous. Valdez is filler and being 2012 contract, may actually be of negative value. Oswalt goes through a dead arm issue near this time every year and then comes back to pitch well. The return is not stellar, but it is good enough.