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Title: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: bravesfan4 on May 16, 2011, 12:26:55 PM
The subway rivals send a few packing, they agree to send

SP Archer, Chris, $0.5m (2012)
OF Beltran, Carlos, $17m (2011) 17m pd for by NYM
CI Blake, Casey, $6m (2011) 6m pd for by NYM
P Garcia, Christian, $0.5m (P-n/a)
SP Lackey, John, $10.5m (2012)
OF Wells, Vernon, $18m (2014)

To the Bronx for

CI Goldschmidt, Paul, $0.5m (P-n/a)
SP Maine, John, $3m (2012)
P Perez, Carlos, $0.5m (P-n/a)
CI Rodriguez, Alex, $27.5m (2017)
P Jokisch, Eric, $0.5m (P-n/a)

The Mets agree to take on the worst contract in the league in order to obtain some youth. Goldschmidt Perez and Jokisch are all personal favorites of mine. Maine was included to help on money next year. Kinda of swap of dead weight. The Mets hate to get rid of a top 50 in Archer, but hope Perez benefits from being in the best farm system in baseball. 

Yanks to confirm
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: OUDAN on May 16, 2011, 12:58:29 PM
confirmed i am happy with all of this other then giving up goldschmidt but thats the price you have to pay to get rid of that damn contract arod was on. this deal will help me this year and in the future.
i agree to this deal lets get it done
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: Needle Juice on May 16, 2011, 01:01:43 PM
 :iatp:

I think this is a very well balanced deal, especially considering there is only a handful of teams in this league that could consider taking on AROID.  Well done fellas.
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: Mr.TradeKing on May 16, 2011, 01:53:48 PM
 :iatp:

Mets gain youth and even production this year and the Yankees cut cap in the future.

~MTK
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: guak2005 on May 16, 2011, 03:39:22 PM
I for one won't accept this trade. I think that considering the circunstances under which Corey left the Yankees for the Mets there should be a time period before he brings in players from his old team. It is unfair for the rest of the league since obviously a manger prefers the players from the team he had previously built. Plus, this trade may be a little bit lopsided. I know how hard it is to get rid of awful contracts in this league and I think that the fact that the Yankees are getting three major leaguers  and a solid prospect in exchange for A-Rod and a couple of prospects is simply too good.
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: Needle Juice on May 16, 2011, 03:55:14 PM
I believe that all of recent opposition to the New GMs trades may have created a need for a bit of overpayment from an existing GM to a new GM, therefore making sure the new GM was not taken advantage of. 

I think that this trade is a good balance, but I truly believe in Goldschmidt and Perez, while I am down on Archer (traded him this offseason).  Yanks get major league players with bad contracts Wells and Lackey. 
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: OUDAN on May 16, 2011, 04:01:15 PM
true this trade will hurt me for the next two years, and im stuck with wells contract i would rather have his side of it, but offloading arods contract was huge to me to free up future car room.....i dont see the problem i took two bad contract back
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: guak2005 on May 16, 2011, 04:13:19 PM
Yes but Wells should start producing when he gets back from injury and in this league even with those horrible numbers Lackey still helps with points simply by remaining a starter. Plus Blake and Beltran may be aging guys but they are producers and there was plenty of league interest in them. Wells contract is until 2014, A-Rod's is 2017. And let's remember this is a hitter-biased league, so pitching prospects are worth less than hitters.
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: OUDAN on May 16, 2011, 04:17:34 PM
i just felt that the hit i would take the next few years would make up for it but im new to the league so what do i know
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: OUDAN on May 16, 2011, 04:18:08 PM
although it would be nice to know so i can know if i need to go aquire a new CI lol
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: guak2005 on May 16, 2011, 04:20:40 PM
It will depend on how the rest of the TC votes.
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: Mr.TradeKing on May 16, 2011, 04:28:30 PM
I believe proper protocol here would be to retract all votes and hear the two sides and then have the TC re-vote.

~MTK
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: Dan Wood on May 16, 2011, 04:49:24 PM
Since I am no longer part of the TC I cannot make a vote for or against this trade. However, I believe my opinion still carries some weight. As far as I am concerned (my POV) the Yanks are getting the better end of the deal, simply because in my opinion I do not value the players that NYY are receiving simply due to their contracts. Beltran has proved that he is healthy, and has been productive. The Yanks can also afford to re-sign him so it isn't a one year rental. Wells is done, and no I don't think he produces once he gets back. Blake should be out until the end of May. Beltran for Arod is even in my book given all things considered (contracts, injury concerns, age, etc). Blake, Wells, and Lackey (who just flat out stinks and is due 10 mil for a few more seasons) I think are equal value for the prospects received. Blake is nothing more than a one year rental, Wells and Lackey are expensive duds.

Beltran may have had a bunch of interest, but Corey wanted Goldsmidt. And as we all know, everyone in this league values talent differently. To say that this trade is obscenely lopsided, IMO, is unfair. Is there a lot of MLB talent heading to the Yanks, yes. We can also agree the Mets are receiving the best player in the deal, while no longer having to pay Vernon Wells or John Lackey in future seasons. But, as I said earlier, I do not have a vote. If I did I would approve this deal.
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: guak2005 on May 16, 2011, 05:41:30 PM
I agree with your assessment Dan. I have not said that it is obscenely lopsided, just that this is a lopsided deal in favor of the Yankees. And it is due to the circumstances surrounding the deal that I am not approving, not for the value per se. If the deal was very even I would approve it in spite of the circumstances, but it is the combination of both that lead me to my decision.
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: OUDAN on May 16, 2011, 05:49:54 PM
just approve it or dont its whatever i dont feel its lopsided enough to be veteod but i am new
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: guak2005 on May 16, 2011, 05:59:07 PM
Trades are supposed to be discussed when there is dissent. There are still some TC members that haven't voted. The decision rests with them.
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: Colby on May 16, 2011, 06:05:25 PM
just approve it or dont its whatever i dont feel its lopsided enough to be veteod but i am new

Excuse me Dan, but this is how our league runs.  Most trades are simply approved without much comment.  Trades must be approved by four of the six TC members.  If there is a TC member against the trade before it is approved (many are approved 4-0) then each side must give additional reasoning behind their end of the deal.  Other TC members usually chime in with their opinions.  On top of that, other members of the league generally have an input on the trade.  This is what makes this league so great.  As you can see, we will debate over plenty of issues, but it simply improves the quality of the league each and every time.
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: OUDAN on May 16, 2011, 06:09:53 PM
ok i guess i just didnt think this one was debatible but no biggie ill just want for this one to get done before i can make another cause i will be stuck without a CI
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: nerwffej on May 16, 2011, 07:12:08 PM
i agree on few points made but big issuie is to unload a big contract without having to pay for some or most for remaning years. The deal seems more to one side but most trades have to in order to gain a player or 2  of want or need, both teams seems to like who they get and doesnt seem to lopsided to harm league so   :iatp:
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: OUDAN on May 17, 2011, 11:03:15 AM
ok i see a few people have approved it, is it going through now i have another deal pendin this one
Title: Re: Mets strike a deal with the subway rivals
Post by: lp815 on May 18, 2011, 11:29:33 AM
:judge: on fantrax.