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Can we get them reviewed?
60 day rule: what's the point of this rule? I can trade player A 10 times in a day as long as player A was not signed in the past 60 days, but I can't do so if player A was signed 59 days ago?
Trading draft pick rule: this one is just dumb. Draft picks are currencies just like players. Not allowing trading of picks closes another door for teams trying to contend or rebuild. If I am the Mets or the Angels, I'd trade away as many pieces as I can for picks in the upcoming draft. Most people dislike the fact that MLB forbids trading of picks. We should emulate everything that's good about the MLB, not retarded rules such as this one.
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Im 50/50 with you on this Howe. The 60day window I like. Now if we think it should be shorter thats one thing, but we need this rule. It prevents owners like me who have the Yanks of signing a guy I dont want simply because the Padres want him and send me an offer saying hey, ill send you these 3 for michael young if you sign him......That would not be good for the league. So that rule I agree with.
Draft Picks are a different story. I think it would help smaller clubs out tremendously. Prime example is the Mets. Green did a good job bringing in draft picks. If i remember right that franchise had 3 first rounders, and drafted 3 very good specs. I understand we cant trade because of trying to make the league as real as possible so I understand why but it would be helpful to be able to trade them.
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Im 50/50 with you on this Howe. The 60day window I like. Now if we think it should be shorter thats one thing, but we need this rule. It prevents owners like me who have the Yanks of signing a guy I dont want simply because the Padres want him and send me an offer saying hey, ill send you these 3 for michael young if you sign him......That would not be good for the league. So that rule I agree with.
Draft Picks are a different story. I think it would help smaller clubs out tremendously. Prime example is the Mets. Green did a good job bringing in draft picks. If i remember right that franchise had 3 first rounders, and drafted 3 very good specs. I understand we cant trade because of trying to make the league as real as possible so I understand why but it would be helpful to be able to trade them.
I don't get it. The 60 day rule makes sense if the bidding window is 5 minutes and teams constantly miss players they want to sign. Teams have 72 hours to decide whether they want to sign a player or not.
If the Yankees jack up the price on players beyond the Padres' budget, the only way the Padres will trade for these players is if the Yankees throw in $ and talent.
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I like the 60 day rule as is, but completely agree with trading draft picks being allowed.
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I don't get it. The 60 day rule makes sense if the bidding window is 5 minutes and teams constantly miss players they want to sign. Teams have 72 hours to decide whether they want to sign a player or not.
The other side of this is that MLB teams don't sign players and turn around and trade them - players wouldn't sign with a team they thought might immediately trade them, they sign somewhere they want to play at least the remainder of the season if not long-term.
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The other side of this is that MLB teams don't sign players and turn around and trade them - players wouldn't sign with a team they thought might immediately trade them, they sign somewhere they want to play at least the remainder of the season if not long-term.
So, why is it OK to trade a player multiples time during the year? And, why is it OK to sign/drop prospects without penalties? We got to draw the line on realism somewhere...
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So, why is it OK to trade a player multiples time during the year? And, why is it OK to sign/drop prospects without penalties? We got to draw the line on realism somewhere...
Good point - we always have to add the ability to turn a franchise around quickly with that of having fun and being realistic.
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Good point - we always have to add the ability to turn a franchise around quickly with that of having fun and being realistic.
Which is why trading picks might be a good idea. The 60 day rule is a good idea.
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How is trading Chone Figgins multiple times during a year (to the same team too!) realistic but signing and trading players within the first 60 day not realistic?
I am glad to see many feel the same on the trading draft picks issue though.
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How is trading Chone Figgins multiple times during a year (to the same team too!) realistic but signing and trading players within the first 60 day not realistic?
I agree that it's not realistic. The fact that we have so much turnover via trade is really not realistic at all - look around the league and see how many teams you can find that even somewhat resemble their MLB counterparts, it's not even been two full seasons yet but I don't expect there to be many (Braun is the only holdover from my team). Personally, I think the 60-day rule is good and I would go the other direction from what you're saying and try to reduce turnover somehow (maybe give incentives to keep players longer-term like a re-sign discount for a player held 3+ years), being more consistent with our realism rather than drop the idea completely. That's me and I'd probably be outnumbered since many love the idea of high-turnover, so I probably won't push it.
I was indifferent on the draft pick trading when we made the current rule, and agree with you that while it's realistic, it's not as fun and allowing picks to be traded can help small market teams better re-tool via the draft. It also helps facilitate trades in general, since small differences in value can be made up for with picks. That said, now that we've made the change and I've become more accustom to it, I am ok with the current rule and think the strategy of accumulating picks via RFA's is fun since that what Billy Beane does (and we just changed the RFA rules to better facilitate this), but if there's a huge push to get rid of it I won't be that upset.
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I would also be in favor of draft picks being traded. I understand that we want to mirror real life MLB as much as possible but in the world of fantasy sports we have to keep managers interested and want to keep playing in a free league. There always has to be a rebuilding process where a manager feels like they will have a chance in the future.
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I am in favor of draft pick trading because it makes the league more interesting. It does help in making trades and can be used as a way of improving rebuilding teams. The 60 day rule is a good one.
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I to agree that Draft Pick trading may be a good thing and the 60 Day Rule is a necessary rule.
~MTK
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I to agree that Draft Pick trading may be a good thing and the 60 Day Rule is a necessary rule.
~MTK
Once again; this is why we have other leagues. I think the push to change rules needs to come to a close. At this point, we should be looking at how to improve processes (such as hiring GMs).
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I would not have brought up the issue if AGM is more competitve than its current state.
Seems like everyone likes the trading of draft picks to some degree, what harm is there to implement it?
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I wasn't against taking the rule out in the first place.
While unrealistic the trading of draft picks does add a nice level to the game.
60 days is fine for reasons stated. keeps teams honest when bidding on players.
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i have been a strong opponent of trading picks, but it does make it a lot more fun to do so. I would have no problem going back to the old ways of doing things. But i do think every team should have to keep their first rounder.
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i have been a strong opponent of trading picks, but it does make it a lot more fun to do so. I would have no problem going back to the old ways of doing things. But i do think every team should have to keep their first rounder.
I feel like that dictates a GM's moves too much. Also, teams may trade heavily to get the number 1 overall. This could in turn benefit the teams with the worst records. I think it should be left open to all picks being traded, if we decide to trade any.
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:iatp:
The other benefit of trading picks is it allows teams to get more value out of the draft. Suppose a team has the 5th overall pick and see nothing that he likes, he should be able to trade down or something to maximize the value.
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:iatp:
The other benefit of trading picks is it allows teams to get more value out of the draft. Suppose a team has the 5th overall pick and see nothing that he likes, he should be able to trade down or something to maximize the value.
:iatp:
there are various other reasons as to why we shouldn't allow it with restrictions. allow it or do not, IMO.
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Not that I'm necessarily against trading picks, but one argument to keep the current ban:
There is a lot of concern going around on new GM's coming in and destroying a team then quitting, leaving future GM's with little or nothing to work from. Preventing the trading of picks ensures that a new GM will have at least a full slate of picks to work from in the upcoming draft. Along the same lines, if we rolled back the current rule and went back to allowing picks to be traded, I think we should definitely continue to disallow trading of future picks (even more important for future picks).
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Not that I'm necessarily against trading picks, but one argument to keep the current ban:
There is a lot of concern going around on new GM's coming in and destroying a team then quitting, leaving future GM's with little or nothing to work from. Preventing the trading of picks ensures that a new GM will have at least a full slate of picks to work from in the upcoming draft.
:iatp:
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Even if this is considered, it should be discussed following the 2011 season. GM's have planned for the current rules for this season.
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Even if this is considered, it should be discussed following the 2011 season. GM's have planned for the current rules for this season.
No problem.
We have all the time to iron out all the details.