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Title: Braves/Giants strike a deal.
Post by: Mr.TradeKing on December 27, 2010, 11:23:30 PM
:ATL: Sends:

P Walden, Jordan, $0.5m (P-n/a)

:SF: Sends:

RP Wilson, Brian, $0.5m (2010) + RFA Tag

The Braves decide to take a chance on keeping Brian Wilson through the bidding process since their bullpen is in shambles after the departure of their star close, Heath Bell.

~MTK
Title: Re: Braves/Giants strike a deal.
Post by: Dan Wood on December 27, 2010, 11:45:03 PM
Before this deal goes through, I want to make the participants aware that once you receive an RFA player in trade, you have to immediately sign him. You cannot just receive the matching rights. Just FYI.


This is how Jon Broxton got so rich...

http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=702.0 (http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=702.0)
Title: Re: Braves/Giants strike a deal.
Post by: Mr.TradeKing on December 27, 2010, 11:58:33 PM
That's weird, I read somewhere in the rules that if you traded a RFA Tagged player the Tag simply went with him.

~MTK
Title: Re: Braves/Giants strike a deal.
Post by: Mr.TradeKing on December 28, 2010, 12:00:10 AM
Also, I don't believe I was around when this rule was decided upon, so without going to in-depth, can someone please give me the reasoning behind this deal?

~MTK
Title: Re: Braves/Giants strike a deal.
Post by: Dan Wood on December 28, 2010, 12:06:08 AM
It's in the rules under RFA

"Trading RFA
A player may be traded while tagged as RFA during the off-season period in which free agency has not begun.  The player then must be signed to a contract extension by the new team."

It was created before my time, so some of the old RC would prolly be better able to answer the reasoning behind its creation.
Title: Re: Braves/Giants strike a deal.
Post by: Mr.TradeKing on December 28, 2010, 12:18:24 AM
Obviously I am not apart of the RC, but is there anyway would could re-open this discussion unless an adequate reason is produced?

~MTK
Title: Re: Braves/Giants strike a deal.
Post by: MillerTime on December 28, 2010, 08:57:40 AM
I think that it is too late for additional discussion for this offseason.  Other trades have been made under the current rule this offseason.  To change now would be unfair to other teams following the rule. 

Discussion could be had for change following next season. 
Title: Re: Braves/Giants strike a deal.
Post by: Flash on December 28, 2010, 12:42:22 PM
:ATL: Sends:

P Walden, Jordan, $0.5m (P-n/a)

:SF: Sends:

RP Wilson, Brian, $0.5m (2010) + RFA Tag

The Braves decide to take a chance on keeping Brian Wilson through the bidding process since their bullpen is in shambles after the departure of their star close, Heath Bell.

~MTK

Wow, don't know about all the qualifiers, I do remember reading the rules regarding the immediate signing of RFAs if you rec'd them in a trade.  That said, I agreed to this trade because I can't afford to re-sign Brian Wilson to a contract extension and would probably lose him in the FA bidding.  So the opportunity to get an up and coming prospect like Jordan Walden makes more sense for me. 
Title: Re: Braves/Giants strike a deal.
Post by: Colby on December 28, 2010, 02:11:22 PM
RFAs, when traded, must be signed to an extension.  The reasoning for this rule is to put an inherent NTC in the contracts of some veterans.  Many of the players that end up as RFAs are players that a team won't sign because of their high market value.  In real life, the trading of these players' rights would end up in a new deal.

Aubrey should be given the chance to rescind this deal based on his misinterpretation of the rules.

Happy Holidays.
Title: Re: Braves/Giants strike a deal.
Post by: Flash on December 28, 2010, 09:46:02 PM
RFAs, when traded, must be signed to an extension.  The reasoning for this rule is to put an inherent NTC in the contracts of some veterans.  Many of the players that end up as RFAs are players that a team won't sign because of their high market value.  In real life, the trading of these players' rights would end up in a new deal.

Aubrey should be given the chance to rescind this deal based on his misinterpretation of the rules.

Happy Holidays.

Even though I would have really liked to have gotten Jordan Walden, I'm not looking to cause anyone any grief.  So in the interest of goodwill, I agree to rescind the deal.
Title: Re: Braves/Giants strike a deal.
Post by: lp815 on December 30, 2010, 12:00:31 AM
Looks like the TradeKing forgot the TradeRules.  Zing! :taco: :taco: :taco:
Title: Re: Braves/Giants strike a deal.
Post by: Mr.TradeKing on December 30, 2010, 10:09:07 AM
The TradeKing knows no rules, Jake.

~MTK
Title: Re: Braves/Giants strike a deal.
Post by: Dan Wood on December 31, 2010, 12:59:53 AM
I assume this trade is dead as disco?
Title: Re: Braves/Giants strike a deal.
Post by: Mr.TradeKing on January 01, 2011, 02:29:14 PM
yes.

~MTK