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Re: RFA Rule Proposal & Discussion
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2013, 06:49:34 PM »
But the point here is that we aren't offering the RFA a deal  :agent: and then he is not accepting it.  We either offer him the extension based on his extension value or we let him go like any other FA.  Why should we get a pick because we let one of our building blocks go?  If we wanted him, we sign him plain and simple.

In a Fantasy world the player can't refuse to play for us and not accept the deal.  LOL.  This is why I don't see the need for a complicated addition to an already great league.
Its about getting him cheaper then the extension value. Your not going to see a Landeskog hit the RFA market but someone like Nick Spaling, who the extension value says he is worth 3m but you and I both know he isn't worth 2m. So thats when this rule will come into effect. Say I have him but don't want to pay 3m but I want to keep him thats when I let him go to the RFA market and hope I can get him for closer to 2m. Thats where you should be compensated
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Re: RFA Rule Proposal & Discussion
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2013, 07:05:54 PM »
Its about getting him cheaper then the extension value. Your not going to see a Landeskog hit the RFA market but someone like Nick Spaling, who the extension value says he is worth 3m but you and I both know he isn't worth 2m. So thats when this rule will come into effect. Say I have him but don't want to pay 3m but I want to keep him thats when I let him go to the RFA market and hope I can get him for closer to 2m. Thats where you should be compensated

I understand your point but don't think it is really needed.  You want him sign him.  You don't, then let him walk and bid on him in FA for $2m, plain and simple.  If someone wants to pay him $2.5m, you walk away with nothing, no reason you should get compensated as it wasn't like he didn't like your Extension offer, it was YOU the GM that didn't like the extension value.  Just like any other FA.



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Re: RFA Rule Proposal & Discussion
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2013, 07:17:54 PM »
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I understand your point but don't think it is really needed.  You want him sign him.  You don't, then let him walk and bid on him in FA for $2m, plain and simple.  If someone wants to pay him $2.5m, you walk away with nothing, no reason you should get compensated as it wasn't like he didn't like your Extension offer, it was YOU the GM that didn't like the extension value.  Just like any other FA.

Further to this, the compensation picks provide such a significant deterrent against bidding that the original proprietary GM's will be getting most of their players back at well below market value.

Personally, I won't bid on any players in Free-Agency if I have to cough-up draft picks just to get them. Tell me I'm wrong but I know I'm not alone on this.

Far easier to simply grant GM's a 10% reduction for extensions on 2-way contracts.
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Re: RFA Rule Proposal & Discussion
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2013, 07:24:36 PM »
Further to this, the compensation picks provide such a significant deterrent against bidding that the original proprietary GM's will be getting most of their players back at well below market value.

Personally, I won't bid on any players in Free-Agency if I have to cough-up draft picks just to get them. Tell me I'm wrong but I know I'm not alone on this.

Far easier to simply grant GM's a 10% reduction for extensions on 2-way contracts.

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Totally 100% agree that the detriment of giving up the picks will make the RFA signings way below market value.  I wouldn't give the picks up either.

You would also have to sign the player for a certain amount of years like 3 or something instead of only 1 or 2.
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Re: RFA Rule Proposal & Discussion
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2013, 09:27:56 PM »
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Totally 100% agree that the detriment of giving up the picks will make the RFA signings way below market value.  I wouldn't give the picks up either.

You would also have to sign the player for a certain amount of years like 3 or something instead of only 1 or 2.

I agree with everything that has been previously mentioned in regards to the RFA thing hurting the game. I think having a 10% discount on 2 way players will help keep the players we want on the team long term.
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Re: RFA Rule Proposal & Discussion
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2013, 04:39:12 PM »
Further to this, the compensation picks provide such a significant deterrent against bidding that the original proprietary GM's will be getting most of their players back at well below market value.

Personally, I won't bid on any players in Free-Agency if I have to cough-up draft picks just to get them. Tell me I'm wrong but I know I'm not alone on this.

Far easier to simply grant GM's a 10% reduction for extensions on 2-way contracts.

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Love this idea!
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Re: RFA Rule Proposal & Discussion
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2013, 09:33:54 PM »
I'll think on this one for now on the 10%. All in favour of disposing of the RFA discussion (6 opposed and I'll trash the idea)?
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Re: RFA Rule Proposal & Discussion
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2013, 09:37:11 PM »
I prefer the 10% idea
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Re: RFA Rule Proposal & Discussion
« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2013, 10:08:50 PM »
10%
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Re: RFA Rule Proposal & Discussion
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