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2019-20 FNHL Overpaid Players (Playoff Edition)
« on: March 17, 2020, 03:58:53 PM »
I'm wondering if there's a reason there's a smaller list of MOST OVERPAID PLAYERS in FNHL.

But here's my attempt at bringing it back for the 2019-20 season. Being the owner of the most OVERPAID player, I think that honour belongs to me. :rofl:

I've cut and paste this from the 2015-16 post started by Pigsrule and will use it as a evolving post. After the Sharks players, the list is in no particular order.

2011-12 List of overpaid FNHL players
2012-13 List
2013-14 List
2014-15 List
2015-16 List
Who belongs on the 2019-20 List?

  • :SJ: RW - Josh Anderson, $10.3m (2019-2024) - product of a FA bidding war
  • :SJ: LW - Milan Lucic, $5.7m (2019-2023) - there are way cheaper options for the same output on the wing
  • :SJ: LW/RW - Thomas Vanek, $1.6m (2019-2022) - a slow footed FA who refuses to retire at age 36
  • :ANA: D - Damon Severson, $6.0m (2018-2022) - plays like a bottom pairing D
  • :ANA: G - Alex Lyon, $3.6m (2018-2021) - does this guy even have a real shot at the NHL?
  • :CLG: D - Ryan McDonagh, $5.3m (2017-2020) - plays like a 7th or 8th D
  • :CLG: G - Ryan Miller, $7.1m (2017-2021) - retirement material?
  • :LAK: D - Derek Forbort, $3.5m (2018-2021) - not producing even when he's not on on the IR
  • :LV: LW - Patrick Marleau, $4.7m (2018-2021) - 40yo has seen better days
  • :COL-NHL: G - Timur Bilyalov, $5.1m (2019-2022) - until he reaches the NHL, this KHLer is an expensive prospect
  • :COL-NHL: G - Henrik Lundqvist, $13.5m (2017-2022) - on a bad team and past his prime too
  • :STL-NHL: C/LW - Joe Pavelski, $8.3m (2018-2023) - has not been elite this year with the Stars
  • :STL-NHL: D - Nick Holden, $5.2m (2018-2021) - maybe a little more expensive that he should be
  • :WIN: D - Oliwer Kaski, $3.7m (2019-2022) - the result of FA bidding war?
  • :WIN: G - Michael Hutchinson, $5.1m (2017-2020) - blew his chance to remain an NHLer with Leafs
  • :BUF-NHL: C - Martin Hanzal, $2.2m (2018-2021) - played total of 45 games in 3 yrs!!!!
  • :DET-NHL: G - Cory Schneider, $5.8m (2019-2023) - lots of term left on this contract for an AHL goalie
  • :FLO: RW - Corey Perry, $6.6m (2017-2021) - well past expiry date for that contract
  • :FLO: D - Johnny Boychuk, $8.0m (2016-2021) - just an ordinary blueliner nowadays
  • :OTT: LW - Zack Smith, $5.5m (2017-2021) - reminds me of Lucic's contract and scoring output
  • :OTT: G - Calvin Pickard, $4.6m (2018-2021) - stuck in the AHL on a bad team like DET!?!?!
  • :OTT: G - Keith Kinkaid, $5.1m (2017-2021) - stuck in the AHL on a bad team like MTL!?!?!
  • :CLS: C - Ryan Spooner, $3.2m (2018-2021) - someone file a missing persons report on Spooner!
  • :CLS: RW - Cam Atkinson, $7.5m (2018-2023-FP-9.9 ) - he's good but this was a FA bidding war contract
  • :NJD: LW - Matt Martin, $5.1m (2018-2021) - just like Lucic and Zack Smith
  • :NJD: LW - Patrick Maroon, $6.0m (2018-2022) - just like Lucic, Zack Smith and Martin
  • :NJD: RW - Marko Dano, $4.4m (2018-2021) - got paid and left town
  • :NYR: RW - Phil Kessel, $4.5m (2019-2022) - how the mighty have fallen!
  • :NYR: G - Cam Talbot, $8.9m (2019-2024) - too expensive for a backup
  • :PIT-NHL: RW - Tyler Pitlick, $2.7m (2019-2022) - overpaid for a depth guy
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Re: 2019-20 FNHL Overpaid Players (Playoff Edition)
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2020, 06:31:57 PM »
I'm wondering if there's a reason there's a smaller list of MOST OVERPAID PLAYERS in FNHL.

But here's my attempt at bringing it back for the 2019-20 season. Being the owner of the most OVERPAID player, I think that honour belongs to me. :rofl:

I've cut and paste this from the 2015-16 post started by Pigsrule and will use it as a evolving post. After the Sharks players, the list is in no particular order.

2011-12 List of overpaid FNHL players
2012-13 List
2013-14 List
2014-15 List
2015-16 List
Who belongs on the 2019-20 List?

  • :SJ: RW - Josh Anderson, $10.3m (2019-2024) - product of a FA bidding war
  • :SJ: LW - Milan Lucic, $5.7m (2019-2023) - there are way cheaper options for the same output on the wing
  • :SJ: LW/RW - Thomas Vanek, $1.6m (2019-2022) - a slow footed FA who refuses to retire at age 36
  • :ANA: D - Damon Severson, $6.0m (2018-2022) - plays like a bottom pairing D
  • :ANA: G - Alex Lyon, $3.6m (2018-2021) - does this guy even have a real shot at the NHL?
  • :CLG: D - Ryan McDonagh, $5.3m (2017-2020) - plays like a 7th or 8th D
  • :CLG: G - Ryan Miller, $7.1m (2017-2021) - retirement material?
  • :LAK: D - Derek Forbort, $3.5m (2018-2021) - not producing even when he's not on on the IR
  • :LV: LW - Patrick Marleau, $4.7m (2018-2021) - 40yo has seen better days
  • :COL-NHL: G - Timur Bilyalov, $5.1m (2019-2022) - until he reaches the NHL, this KHLer is an expensive prospect
  • :COL-NHL: G - Henrik Lundqvist, $13.5m (2017-2022) - on a bad team and past his prime too
  • :STL-NHL: C/LW - Joe Pavelski, $8.3m (2018-2023) - has not been elite this year with the Stars
  • :STL-NHL: D - Nick Holden, $5.2m (2018-2021) - maybe a little more expensive that he should be
  • :WIN: D - Oliwer Kaski, $3.7m (2019-2022) - the result of FA bidding war?
  • :WIN: G - Michael Hutchinson, $5.1m (2017-2020) - blew his chance to remain an NHLer with Leafs
  • :BUF-NHL: C - Martin Hanzal, $2.2m (2018-2021) - played total of 45 games in 3 yrs!!!!
  • :DET-NHL: G - Cory Schneider, $5.8m (2019-2023) - lots of term left on this contract for an AHL goalie
  • :FLO: RW - Corey Perry, $6.6m (2017-2021) - well past expiry date for that contract
  • :FLO: D - Johnny Boychuk, $8.0m (2016-2021) - just an ordinary blueliner nowadays
  • :OTT: LW - Zack Smith, $5.5m (2017-2021) - reminds me of Lucic's contract and scoring output
  • :OTT: G - Calvin Pickard, $4.6m (2018-2021) - stuck in the AHL on a bad team like DET!?!?!
  • :OTT: G - Keith Kinkaid, $5.1m (2017-2021) - stuck in the AHL on a bad team like MTL!?!?!
  • :CLS: C - Ryan Spooner, $3.2m (2018-2021) - someone file a missing persons report on Spooner!
  • :CLS: RW - Cam Atkinson, $7.5m (2018-2023-FP-9.9 ) - he's good but this was a FA bidding war contract
  • :NJD: LW - Matt Martin, $5.1m (2018-2021) - just like Lucic and Zack Smith
  • :NJD: LW - Patrick Maroon, $6.0m (2018-2022) - just like Lucic, Zack Smith and Martin
  • :NJD: RW - Marko Dano, $4.4m (2018-2021) - got paid and left town
  • :NYR: RW - Phil Kessel, $4.5m (2019-2022) - how the mighty have fallen!
  • :NYR: G - Cam Talbot, $8.9m (2019-2024) - too expensive for a backup
  • :PIT-NHL: RW - Tyler Pitlick, $2.7m (2019-2022) - overpaid for a depth guy

:thumbsup::thumbsup::iatp: Great post RockOn.

Kessel has been bad this year but that contract isn't all that bad imo. Talbot has improved by stealing starts in Calgary and might be creeping into the 1B role with his play since the new year. As for Josh Anderson, without a doubt #1 and way ahead of anyone in FNHL for consideration of that distinction.
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Re: 2019-20 FNHL Overpaid Players (Playoff Edition)
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2020, 07:18:03 PM »
6. :CLG: D - Ryan McDonagh, $5.3m (2017-2020) - plays like a 7th or 8th D

I see from the Completed Transactions that McDonagh was a Cane and dealt for a 2nd rounder to the Flames. I give props to the last owner for that trade. McDonagh lost his PP1 unit PT to Shattenkirk and the results speak for themselves. He is no better than a shutdown defenceman as long as Tampa doesn't give him PP mins.
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Re: 2019-20 FNHL Overpaid Players (Playoff Edition)
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2020, 09:39:22 PM »
That $8 million Johnny Boychuk contract looks like a giant anchor to me. Was that from a FA bidding war or an expensive contract extension.
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Re: 2019-20 FNHL Overpaid Players (Playoff Edition)
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2020, 09:40:04 PM »
:iatp: Great list by the way.
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Re: 2019-20 FNHL Overpaid Players (Playoff Edition)
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2020, 11:45:13 PM »
Pacific is full of bad contracts
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Re: 2019-20 FNHL Overpaid Players (Playoff Edition)
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2020, 04:23:46 PM »
GREAT LIST ROCK ON! :iatp:

I will volunteer this guy for the list because he might've been a Free Agent bidding war beneficiary
Blake Coleman, $7.0m (2018-2022)

Once he went north of 6.9m he was overpaid.
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Re: 2019-20 FNHL Overpaid Players (Playoff Edition)
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2020, 01:04:16 AM »
Coleman has the track record to back up that large contract so I'm not sure he's really deserving of attention of the overpaid list. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: 2019-20 FNHL Overpaid Players (Playoff Edition)
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2020, 11:38:57 AM »
6. :CLG: D - Ryan McDonagh, $5.3m (2017-2020) - plays like a 7th or 8th D

I see from the Completed Transactions that McDonagh was a Cane and dealt for a 2nd rounder to the Flames. I give props to the last owner for that trade. McDonagh lost his PP1 unit PT to Shattenkirk and the results speak for themselves. He is no better than a shutdown defenceman as long as Tampa doesn't give him PP mins.

I agree and dealt a 2nd rounder to get his big contract to Calgary where I think he will bounce back a little next season.

He's got a cap hit of $6.75 million thru 2025-26 in Tampa and Shattenkirk is on a 1yr deal for $1.75m after getting bought out by NYR. McDonagh is 30yo while Shattenkirk is 31. I'm hedging a bet that Ryan gets his PP1 playing time back next year or shortly thereafter.

So for now, I agree McDonagh is overpaid but I don't think it will be for the longrun though he's got an extension coming his way so we'll see once the NHL takes it's finger off the pause button.
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Re: 2019-20 FNHL Overpaid Players (Playoff Edition)
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2020, 03:04:42 AM »
I'm wondering if there's a reason there's a smaller list of MOST OVERPAID PLAYERS in FNHL.

But here's my attempt at bringing it back for the 2019-20 season. Being the owner of the most OVERPAID player, I think that honour belongs to me. :rofl:

I've cut and paste this from the 2015-16 post started by Pigsrule and will use it as a evolving post. After the Sharks players, the list is in no particular order.

2011-12 List of overpaid FNHL players
2012-13 List
2013-14 List
2014-15 List
2015-16 List
Who belongs on the 2019-20 List?

  • :SJ: RW - Josh Anderson, $10.3m (2019-2024) - product of a FA bidding war
  • :SJ: LW - Milan Lucic, $5.7m (2019-2023) - there are way cheaper options for the same output on the wing
  • :SJ: LW/RW - Thomas Vanek, $1.6m (2019-2022) - a slow footed FA who refuses to retire at age 36
  • :ANA: D - Damon Severson, $6.0m (2018-2022) - plays like a bottom pairing D
  • :ANA: G - Alex Lyon, $3.6m (2018-2021) - does this guy even have a real shot at the NHL?
  • :CLG: D - Ryan McDonagh, $5.3m (2017-2020) - plays like a 7th or 8th D
  • :CLG: G - Ryan Miller, $7.1m (2017-2021) - retirement material?
  • :LAK: D - Derek Forbort, $3.5m (2018-2021) - not producing even when he's not on on the IR
  • :LV: LW - Patrick Marleau, $4.7m (2018-2021) - 40yo has seen better days
  • :COL-NHL: G - Timur Bilyalov, $5.1m (2019-2022) - until he reaches the NHL, this KHLer is an expensive prospect
  • :COL-NHL: G - Henrik Lundqvist, $13.5m (2017-2022) - on a bad team and past his prime too
  • :STL-NHL: C/LW - Joe Pavelski, $8.3m (2018-2023) - has not been elite this year with the Stars
  • :STL-NHL: D - Nick Holden, $5.2m (2018-2021) - maybe a little more expensive that he should be
  • :WIN: D - Oliwer Kaski, $3.7m (2019-2022) - the result of FA bidding war?
  • :WIN: G - Michael Hutchinson, $5.1m (2017-2020) - blew his chance to remain an NHLer with Leafs
  • :BUF-NHL: C - Martin Hanzal, $2.2m (2018-2021) - played total of 45 games in 3 yrs!!!!
  • :DET-NHL: G - Cory Schneider, $5.8m (2019-2023) - lots of term left on this contract for an AHL goalie
  • :FLO: RW - Corey Perry, $6.6m (2017-2021) - well past expiry date for that contract
  • :FLO: D - Johnny Boychuk, $8.0m (2016-2021) - just an ordinary blueliner nowadays
  • :OTT: LW - Zack Smith, $5.5m (2017-2021) - reminds me of Lucic's contract and scoring output
  • :OTT: G - Calvin Pickard, $4.6m (2018-2021) - stuck in the AHL on a bad team like DET!?!?!
  • :OTT: G - Keith Kinkaid, $5.1m (2017-2021) - stuck in the AHL on a bad team like MTL!?!?!
  • :CLS: C - Ryan Spooner, $3.2m (2018-2021) - someone file a missing persons report on Spooner!
  • :CLS: RW - Cam Atkinson, $7.5m (2018-2023-FP-9.9 ) - he's good but this was a FA bidding war contract
  • :NJD: LW - Matt Martin, $5.1m (2018-2021) - just like Lucic and Zack Smith
  • :NJD: LW - Patrick Maroon, $6.0m (2018-2022) - just like Lucic, Zack Smith and Martin
  • :NJD: RW - Marko Dano, $4.4m (2018-2021) - got paid and left town
  • :NYR: RW - Phil Kessel, $4.5m (2019-2022) - how the mighty have fallen!
  • :NYR: G - Cam Talbot, $8.9m (2019-2024) - too expensive for a backup
  • :PIT-NHL: RW - Tyler Pitlick, $2.7m (2019-2022) - overpaid for a depth guy
Brilliant! Great work! :iatp:

That Boychuk contract is going to change next season for the better. Count on it.
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  • Colby: Alright folks, it looks like I need to manually bring the site down for a few hours for this server fix. I want to give everyone notification.
    Today at 01:07:16 PM
  • Colby: Server upgrading.
    Today at 01:22:21 PM
  • Colby: Working through a few fixes since upgrading server.
    Today at 04:16:50 PM
  • Vik: Still looking for some new owners in Buckets of Dimes. 4 teams left choice is 1st come 1st serve so pick preferred option while you can
    Today at 06:33:53 PM
  • Vik: [link]
    Today at 06:34:01 PM