* Dynasty NHL

Blank



Boston Bruins Buffalo Sabres Philadelphia Flyers Washington Capitals Pittsburgh Penguins :: Detroit Red Wings Florida Panthers Chicago Blackhawks Tampa Bay Lightning Carolina Hurricanes
Edmonton Oilers Montreal Canadiens Toronto Maple Leafs Vancouver Canucks Calgary Flames :: Anaheim Ducks Colorado Avalanche St. Louis Blues Phoenix Coyotes Los Angeles Kings
Blank --------------------------------------
Blank DNHL Champions
 |
Carolina Hurricanes 11/12 | Chicago Blackhawks 12/13 | Detroit Red Wings 13/14 | Anaheim Ducks 14/15 | Anaheim Ducks 15/16 |

Poll

Should the salary cap be increased next season?

Yes
11 (73.3%)
No
4 (26.7%)

Total Members Voted: 15

Author Topic: 2012/2013 Salary Cap  (Read 3904 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Rob

  • League Moderator
  • MVP
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 11888
  • Bonus inPoints: 3
    • :BOS:
    • :NE:
    • :Blank:
    • :BOS-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
  • Fantasy Sport: :MLB:
Re: 2012/2013 Salary Cap
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2011, 02:28:21 PM »
But you picked up a lot of bargain bench players that are going to extend for more than they're costing you now.  I'd like to see how some other teams shape up before we jump to conclusions on this.  We're using 30 man rosters which is more than the NHL but we're not starting any more players than they are in the real game on any given night.  Some of us are using the extra spots for prospects others are stocking up on extra players to change in and out.  A good question is what are you going to be paying for your primary starters?  If that number is significantly lower then I'm not sure we should make drastic cap accommodations for our bench players. 

Offline snugerud

  • League Moderator
  • MVP
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 3331
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :NE:
    • :TOR-NBA:
    • :PIT-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: 2012/2013 Salary Cap
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2011, 02:58:02 PM »
i would agree with that, and there are a lot of players on that list I would not be extending. 

I am of course just playing devil's advocate and trying to look at this from the different angles.  I still stand by my original opinion of not changing the cap.  Since i love the free agent frenzy. 
Bro-Lo El Cunado

Offline GypsieDeathBringer

  • All-Star
  • **
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 881
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :PIT:
    • :DAL:
    • :ORL:
    • :PIT-NHL:
    • :Pittsburgh:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
  • Fantasy Sport: :NHL:
Re: 2012/2013 Salary Cap
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2011, 04:22:27 PM »
That is kind of fun to extend your whole team to see what they would be worth using just our extension values.  It shows you how much of a bargain or not your team really is.

I am sitting at 102.1m, but yeah I wouldn't extend all those folks.  If I had to extend all my starters I would be up BooYah!  creek for sure, but that is fine because I got good deals and didn't expect to hold onto these players at those amounts.
2011-12 Dynasty NHL Stanley Cup Champion :CAR-NHL:

Offline Whomp

  • *ProFSL Gold
  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 650
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :CHW:
    • :CHI:
    • :CHI-NBA:
    • :CHI-NHL:
    • :Northwestern:
    • :CHI-MLS:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
  • Fantasy Sport: :NHL:
Re: 2012/2013 Salary Cap
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2011, 05:32:08 PM »
I say yes, but based on if the NHL salary cap increases.  That way the league can kind of stay in touch with the NHL.  So, if the NHL raises their cap by 1m we would raise ours by the current ratio of 70m(our cap)/64.3m(nhl cap) or 1.088m.  Already starting off with 70m has made it pretty easy to field a 30 man roster.

Ditto - let's follow the NHL per some formula that relates the real cap per player.
"Someone once said that Bobby could hit a puck through a car wash and not get it wet and that I could hit it just as hard, but not hit the car wash. That was the difference." Dennis Hull

Offline jmtrops

  • All-Pro
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 1637
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :BOS:
    • :NE:
    • :Blank:
    • :TBL:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: 2012/2013 Salary Cap
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2011, 11:15:55 PM »
you have to look at what the problem is. 1st is we have 30% more players on our roster and 2nd is we have 30% less teams so there are more talented (higher paid players) available to us. I am at the cap limit now and next year when I extend the players whos contracts expiers i will still be at the cap limit and same for the next year. after that Im not sure I will be able to extend my players but I will allways be at the cap limit. I think most teams will be the same so fa will allways be a bargin because no one will have any cap space to spend on them. To compensate for this the cap should be 30% higher than the real NHL cap, then we would have closer to real fa. Like some of you have done is finding out how much your salaries would be if you extended everyone and it gives a true look at the problem. If we made our cap about 80M to 85M about 30% above the real cap we would still have to make some choices on fa but would also give us a more realalistic fa bidding.

Offline Rob

  • League Moderator
  • MVP
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 11888
  • Bonus inPoints: 3
    • :BOS:
    • :NE:
    • :Blank:
    • :BOS-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
  • Fantasy Sport: :MLB:
Re: 2012/2013 Salary Cap
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2011, 11:51:39 PM »
you have to look at what the problem is. 1st is we have 30% more players on our roster and 2nd is we have 30% less teams so there are more talented (higher paid players) available to us. I am at the cap limit now and next year when I extend the players whos contracts expiers i will still be at the cap limit and same for the next year. after that Im not sure I will be able to extend my players but I will allways be at the cap limit. I think most teams will be the same so fa will allways be a bargin because no one will have any cap space to spend on them. To compensate for this the cap should be 30% higher than the real NHL cap, then we would have closer to real fa. Like some of you have done is finding out how much your salaries would be if you extended everyone and it gives a true look at the problem. If we made our cap about 80M to 85M about 30% above the real cap we would still have to make some choices on fa but would also give us a more realalistic fa bidding.

I think 30% is excessive.  Like I said before on any given night we don't start 30 players, we start about as many players as a normal NHL team starts.  The extra bench slots are really there for flexibility.  I think we should be looking at it primarily based on what we're paying for our starting players.   There's also a huge savings from the prospect contracts which needs to be considered.

Offline Rob

  • League Moderator
  • MVP
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 11888
  • Bonus inPoints: 3
    • :BOS:
    • :NE:
    • :Blank:
    • :BOS-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
  • Fantasy Sport: :MLB:
Re: 2012/2013 Salary Cap
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2011, 09:12:37 AM »
Actually, if you shave that down to 25% to account for cheaper prospects and base it off last years cap, since all our numbers are based on last year, it would put us right around $75m. 

Offline jmtrops

  • All-Pro
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 1637
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :BOS:
    • :NE:
    • :Blank:
    • :TBL:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: 2012/2013 Salary Cap
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2011, 09:34:54 PM »
If we were able to have that one time free drop of bad contracts then the 75M would be perfect but I think in 2 years most teams will not be able to resign a lot of there players.

Offline Rob

  • League Moderator
  • MVP
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 11888
  • Bonus inPoints: 3
    • :BOS:
    • :NE:
    • :Blank:
    • :BOS-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
  • Fantasy Sport: :MLB:
Re: 2012/2013 Salary Cap
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2011, 11:36:49 AM »
If we all could extend all our players every year there wouldn't be much point to a cap anyway.  Look at what CHI and PHI have had to do with their rosters the last couple years to stay within the cap.  There's going to be some tough decisions for teams to make over the years but I think it adds strategy.

I'm leaning towards an increase to $75m.  After all this discussion I think it makes the most sense.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2011, 11:47:34 AM by Robo »

Online -BA-

  • League Moderator
  • MVP
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 5382
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :CHC:
    • :MIN-NFL:
    • :MIN-NBA:
    • :WAS-NHL:
    • :Michigan:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: 2012/2013 Salary Cap
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2011, 03:54:43 PM »
If we all could extend all our players every year there wouldn't be much point to a cap anyway.  Look at what CHI and PHI have had to do with their rosters the last couple years to stay within the cap.  There's going to be some tough decisions for teams to make over the years but I think it adds strategy.

I'm leaning towards an increase to $75m.  After all this discussion I think it makes the most sense.

I think the $75m is a good number.
"You go to the box. Two minutes by yourself and... you feel shame. You know... and then you get free."

 

With Quick-Reply you can write a post when viewing a topic without loading a new page. You can still use bulletin board code and smileys as you would in a normal post.

Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.

Name: Email:
Verification:
Type the letters shown in the picture
Listen to the letters / Request another image
Type the letters shown in the picture:
Last name of MLB all-time HR leader:
New England Patriots QB last name:

Forum Search


Quick Profile

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

ProFSL Fantasy Sports

* Chat Room

Refresh History
  • Jonathan: wow, CP3 just fractured his hand.
    April 26, 2016, 02:01:06 AM
  • themarksman13: yep
    April 27, 2016, 02:54:57 AM
  • themarksman13: Broken metacarpal
    April 27, 2016, 02:55:04 AM
  • themarksman13: That might be 4-6 weeks
    April 27, 2016, 02:55:07 AM
  • BHows: Tarheels-PM
    April 27, 2016, 10:54:21 AM
  • Daddy: Goff or Wentz? Rams or Eagles? Or all of the above getting it right?
    April 27, 2016, 04:19:25 PM
  • Daddy: Where does Paxton Lynch go?
    April 27, 2016, 04:20:02 PM
  • Daddy: Will Bradford be traded? Will Foles be traded?
    April 27, 2016, 04:20:30 PM
  • Daddy: Will the Cowboys take Elliot #4?
    April 27, 2016, 04:21:23 PM
  • Jonathan: I don't think anyone cares. Current state of this site. I would be shocked if Goff isn't a Ram. After 3 it appears wide open. I made a little mock for round 1, but its pretty unpredictable.
    April 27, 2016, 07:04:27 PM
  • Jonathan: [link]
    April 27, 2016, 07:04:48 PM
  • Jonathan: Seems like news comes out everyday that changes things, even just a little. For Instance, Tunsil getting sued came out today. Not sure if it makes any difference.
    April 27, 2016, 07:06:06 PM
  • Jonathan: Nkemdiche and Spence are two guys that will be tough for teams to pass on, as they are highly rated as football players.  They should both go in round 1.
    April 27, 2016, 07:13:45 PM
  • Tubbs: I predict Joey Bosa to be a bust.
    April 27, 2016, 10:41:46 PM
  • chrisetc21: Hopefully the Cowboys draft Bosa then
    April 28, 2016, 01:50:28 PM
  • Jonathan: If the chargers do take Ramsey, then I think it is EE, your #1 fantasy prospect.
    April 28, 2016, 07:07:29 PM
  • Jonathan: I guess we find out starting in 30 minutes.
    April 28, 2016, 08:35:12 PM
  • Jonathan: wow, they took bosa. Cowboys idiots if they take EE with Buckner/Ramsey still there
    April 28, 2016, 09:31:41 PM
  • Jonathan: should of traded back, took him too early.
    April 28, 2016, 09:40:49 PM
  • Jonathan: 5. Ramsey  and now 6. Tunsil 7. Buckner look solid.
    April 28, 2016, 09:49:52 PM
  • Jonathan: Stanley went 6 and of course Chip team takes oregon player. ha.
    April 28, 2016, 10:02:04 PM
  • Jonathan: Looks like Titans getting Tunsil.
    April 28, 2016, 10:03:19 PM
  • Jonathan: I guess nobody wants Tunsil.
    April 28, 2016, 10:06:33 PM
  • Jonathan: Tennessee Titans believe OT Jack Conklin has the potential to never tweet out a photo of himself wearing gasmask.
    April 28, 2016, 10:12:12 PM
  • Jonathan: Laremy Tunsil forgot to put on his formal gas mask when on stage to meet Roger Goodell, bad job by him.
    April 28, 2016, 10:53:05 PM
  • Tubbs: Ha.  Watch Tunsil become perennial all star.
    April 28, 2016, 11:14:56 PM
  • Tubbs: Or all pro.....
    April 28, 2016, 11:15:52 PM
  • Jonathan: Tunsil's gas mask helped him dodge Browns and Titans.
    April 28, 2016, 11:45:24 PM
  • Jonathan: Dee Gordon been hanging with Colabello! #cheaters
    April 29, 2016, 12:09:53 PM
  • Jwalk100: Another fraud
    April 29, 2016, 01:10:31 PM
  • chrisetc21: it's funny, I had Gordon in one league and I cut him because he was really terrible
    April 29, 2016, 03:23:09 PM
  • chrisetc21: shortly after someone else picked him up and all of a sudden he was hitting like an all-star
    April 29, 2016, 03:23:27 PM
  • chrisetc21: now I know why
    April 29, 2016, 03:23:53 PM
  • Eric: Hey guys
    April 29, 2016, 05:34:18 PM
  • Jonathan: Bears having a sneaky solid draft
    April 29, 2016, 11:09:02 PM
  • CRS245: :CLE-NFL: Browns having a sneaky solid draft too lol
    April 30, 2016, 01:04:47 AM
  • Jonathan: Factory of Sadness.
    April 30, 2016, 02:07:07 AM
  • Jonathan: Bengals did some heavy trolling, taking a CB steelers wanted, then grabbed a WR out of Pitt lol
    April 30, 2016, 02:11:18 AM
  • Jonathan: Giles is getting roughed up every time he steps on mound. Ouch
    April 30, 2016, 02:26:26 AM
  • chrisetc21: He has no control
    April 30, 2016, 02:33:52 AM
  • Jonathan: Send him to minors, at least it won't cost them games.
    April 30, 2016, 03:07:05 AM
  • Jonathan: Connor Cook to da Raiders.
    April 30, 2016, 02:21:55 PM
  • Mariner: Toronto Maple Leafs win draft lottery
    April 30, 2016, 09:50:08 PM
  • Jonathan: Albies to AAA, Swanson to AA. Could be seeing there guys sooner than later.
    April 30, 2016, 11:58:55 PM
  • Jonathan: Someone besides the Oilers are allowed to pick 1st?
    May 01, 2016, 12:04:49 AM
  • favo_zomg: The Oilers are picking 4th! I call collusion! lol
    May 01, 2016, 07:45:48 AM
  • CRS245: Oh Oilers :EDM:
    May 01, 2016, 06:47:47 PM
  • Mariner: Oilers could be trading down
    Yesterday at 06:30:41 PM
  • chrisetc21: Houston Oilers #1
    Yesterday at 07:18:39 PM
  • Jonathan: Devin Mesoraco......... disappointing fantasy owners since 2011
    Yesterday at 07:54:13 PM