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Trading rules discussion
« on: February 17, 2018, 04:32:51 PM »
I want to get some discussion going about trading rules. There's been a lot of turnover, and some opinions about the whole league getting a vote. Wanted to see if that's the best process, or if we should go back to having a TC. There's a handful of trades on the board with almost no votes, so I'm thinking that a lot of people are unclear about the rule.
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Re: Trading rules discussion
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2018, 06:50:28 PM »
I favor letting everyone vote.  When there's a TC in the past it's been an issue where certain owners try to get on simply to block trades from their competitors.  Letting everyone vote gives people ownership in their league, it shouldn't be confined to a certain few. 
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Re: Trading rules discussion
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2018, 06:56:39 PM »
I honestly prefer a TC. It is nearly impossible to actually get the whole league to vote on a trade compared to a 7 person TC. If we go with whole league, at what point would we just approve the trade if it gets to be more than 2 days and not even half the league votes on a trade?
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Re: Trading rules discussion
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2018, 06:59:55 PM »
I favor letting everyone vote.  When there's a TC in the past it's been an issue where certain owners try to get on simply to block trades from their competitors.  Letting everyone vote gives people ownership in their league, it shouldn't be confined to a certain few.

Not that I disagree about the ownership part, and I don't have an opinion yet on TC, but letting everyone vote doesn't solve the problem of having people blocking trades from their competitors since 2 vetos kills a trade. Is that a rule that needs to be addressed? I do think that 2 vetos is a good number since 2 of 14 eligible voters having issue with the trade is significant, not to mention usually you only get a handful of votes on trades.
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Re: Trading rules discussion
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2018, 07:00:47 PM »
I honestly prefer a TC. It is nearly impossible to actually get the whole league to vote on a trade compared to a 7 person TC. If we go with whole league, at what point would we just approve the trade if it gets to be more than 2 days and not even half the league votes on a trade?

Which is my issue with the current system. I want trades to be processes quicker, but just putting a 48 or 72 hour clock won't solve anything if people aren't voting.
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Re: Trading rules discussion
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2018, 07:10:41 PM »
Not that I disagree about the ownership part, and I don't have an opinion yet on TC, but letting everyone vote doesn't solve the problem of having people blocking trades from their competitors since 2 vetos kills a trade. Is that a rule that needs to be addressed? I do think that 2 vetos is a good number since 2 of 14 eligible voters having issue with the trade is significant, not to mention usually you only get a handful of votes on trades.

Perhaps three is a better barometer.  I think when you've been in the league a long time, your not voting is just indicative of an approval.  So as long as there's enough time for everyone to see a trade posted, it should just pass unless it has vetoes.  72 hours is plenty of time.  Also, a reminder to people when trades are posted via PM is also a good policy. 
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Re: Trading rules discussion
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2018, 03:29:47 PM »
I have no problem with a committee as long as those on it vote. We’re all busy but there’s no reason a trade should sit up for 4-5 days with only a couple of votes
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Re: Trading rules discussion
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2018, 05:54:21 PM »
I'm against a committee too. There is no point here, and like Chris said is creates biases. What about posting the trades as polls? Require comment for Veto.

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Re: Trading rules discussion
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2018, 07:30:27 PM »
I'm against a committee too. There is no point here, and like Chris said is creates biases. What about posting the trades as polls? Require comment for Veto.

I don't think that improves anything, but I mean I guess if the person creating the trade makes it a poll, we can vote that way.

I don't think as commish I can edit a post to make it a poll if it isn't one to start with.
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Re: Trading rules discussion
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2018, 11:33:40 AM »
In general political elections (Local and State) not everyone votes, some skip the process. So in that case we should run it like that if 9 vote and the result is 5 approve and 4 veto then the trade stands. 24 hours is long enough once open the trade to vote. Also when a trade is up for vote a mass pm to the league should be sent, maybe put out beer and cookies. Something simple shouldnt be difficult. Just my 2 cents
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