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Re: 2017 rules
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2016, 05:29:01 AM »
Not really a fan of the jersey idea. It's not intuitive: sprint jersey for country roads, youth jersey for cobbles???????
And next year 2 more leagues, so more jerseys to search for. Some leagues will fade out perhaps: country roads??

Isn't it possible to create a simple logo?
Or even simple text: "Rainbowcup winner 2016"

But hey I don't care, I wont have a jersey next to my name anyway!  :rofl:

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Re: 2017 rules
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2016, 06:10:07 AM »
I'll try to come up with a logo/jersey that has a rainbow background accompanied by the letters CR, RC etc. Still, it's just 25x25 pixels. We'll see.
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Re: 2017 rules
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2016, 06:19:26 AM »
I mentionned indeed that I don't like the cq-point system.
In my opinion, the winner is too much awarded. It's all about having that big shot.
Look at the quick picks: giro: team nibali wins, eventhough he took the pink jersey in the last mountain stage.. Tour: team froome wins easy. Vuelta: team quintana wins easy.

Creating an alternative is difficult and some serious thinking needs to be done by that.
Some ideas:

GC win in vuelta = 500pts, 1 stage 70pts.
This should be closer to each other. Let's say 3x stage.

Brussels cyclling classic: 1st 140pts, 3th 72 pts. Only 50%.
This should lay closer to each other
I'm thinking something like this direction for a top 20:
1. 100%  or even   100%
2. 85%                   85%
3. 70%                   75%
4. 60%                   70%
5. 50%                   65%
6. 40%                    60%
7. 36%                   55%
8. 32%                    50%
9. 28%                    45%
10. 24%                   40%
11. 20%                    36%
12. 18%                    32%
13. 16%                    ...
14. 14%
15. 12%
16. 10%
17. 8%
18. 6%
19. 4%
20. 2%

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Re: 2017 rules
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2016, 06:36:10 AM »
1. It's all your personal opinion.
2. Again you're proposing something manual. Can you please show me how to implement it?
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Re: 2017 rules
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2016, 06:55:02 AM »
1. off course it's my personal opinion. I have the feeling that I'm standing alone with this feeling. So no problem.

2. If you fill in result today, I copy from cq-ranking.com and I paste it into excell. I delete the rows that are useless and I copy paste it into our cheet.
Instead of pasting it in an empty excell page, It's very easy to paste it into a prepared excell-template who calculates the score.
Nothing is really manual. You can easily make automatic calculations on about everything. You just need the names.

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Re: 2017 rules
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2016, 07:31:06 AM »
Everything you describe above is not at all how it's supposed to work.
And you're doing a lot of manual work by deleting rows etc.
I taught everybody explicitly to use the designated cells within the spreadsheet.
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Re: 2017 rules
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2016, 08:02:30 AM »
If you copy from cq-website, how do you get rid of the flags and the teamname etc?

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Re: 2017 rules
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2016, 08:25:53 AM »
If you copy from cq-website, how do you get rid of the flags and the teamname etc?

The irrelevant info goes into columns FD+, which are hidden as you can see. So paste everything into FC2, then cut-and-paste the only 2 visible columns (name & score) into the given race's columns.
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Re: 2017 rules
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2016, 09:59:55 AM »
I just paste into Excel and delete the stuff which isn't needed.

With regard to opinions I think one day races are far too highly rewarded on CQ and that the winner should get about half the number of points. Top 10 in a Grand Tour gets you just over 100 points for 21 days work, then Bouhanni comes along and gets 260 for winning a poxy sprint.


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Re: 2017 rules
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2016, 04:20:56 PM »
I've now prepared the new spreadsheet entirely. Please report problems/ideas regarding any sheet!
Fear not, same link as before:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x0SOLrswTiG7pjiEkLXtdzj5MpknRSvDgXhUx60pjnc/edit#gid=1796025982

PS
The preliminary calendar only done for RadioShack. It seems that different league could use different calendars next year. So far it's WT & HC as usual, leaving empty the dates for the races I'd expect to return although not mentioned in my rather BooYah! ty source*. I'd hope more websites come up with their calendars over the next 2 weeks. Either way, if we decide FYC should include .1 or even .2, I'll have to extend this obviously.

* - http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/races/calendar/2017/
« Last Edit: October 16, 2016, 04:23:46 PM by Garfield »
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