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Re: Call me crazy (aka additional leagues brainstorming)
« Reply #130 on: November 13, 2017, 09:36:55 AM »
You could always include other rules to separate it from the main game as well, if everyone wants something a little different.

Let's not forget 500 auctions = 500 times a moderator has to move the thread & add the rider to the team sheet.
So to convince me, there would have to be more people willing to go all over again AND - like you mention - a couple of very cool new rules to separate it from the main game. I'm all ears :)
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Re: Call me crazy (aka additional leagues brainstorming)
« Reply #131 on: November 13, 2017, 11:55:44 AM »
The guessing game has some potential ...
some addings:
1. It would be nice to add an originality factor.
2. It would be more fun to put more then one name, let's say the podium.
3. You should play with the timings ...

1. example: in a race 10 players pick sagan, and 1 player picks vermote. Sagan wins and Vermote ends 8th. Winner gets 10 points, but as he is picked 10 times his points are divided by 10. So Sagan: 1 point. The 8th gets 3 points, divided by 1 pick = 3pts. This in combination with my 3th point will provide firework bets.

2. Needs no explication.

3a. In this case, no doubles allowed. let's say the auction starts 100h before the race. If you pick your rider immediately he will get only 1% of the points. After 50h it's 50%. You could do that 3 times for 3 names (your podium). Imagine what that will give with the froome-bet in the tour.

3b. You could allow doubles, but that might become extremely complicated. Then 2nd sagan-pick should have less reward then the 1st pick and so on. In combination with my first point, it might become very mathematical.

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Re: Call me crazy (aka additional leagues brainstorming)
« Reply #132 on: November 15, 2017, 07:49:42 AM »
Davy, I like your ideas, but in practical terms:
  • No doubles OR originality bonus = timing becomes important = we're getting closer to Wall Street, which most people don't seem to like
  • Anything mathematical = more scoring mistakes = I cannot expect everybody to count their own points
  • Podium = more scoring mistakes plus it complicates things (how would we score a correct podium with incorrect order?)
I need it to remain simplistic in terms of guessing if I want people to join, and very very simplistic in terms of scoring if I want everybody to count their own points. Here is what I have in mind: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x0SOLrswTiG7pjiEkLXtdzj5MpknRSvDgXhUx60pjnc/edit#gid=643640090
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Re: Call me crazy (aka additional leagues brainstorming)
« Reply #133 on: November 17, 2017, 01:48:53 PM »
2019 draft format - summary thus far:

1. 1-year contracts for 1st-rounders

Pro: Tom, Joel, myself
Con: Ace, Fleur, Daniel, Erkka, David, Steve, Bryan, Luis
Undecided: Jack (not fussed either way)
Probable outcome: no.

2. Optional 2-year contracts for 2nd-rounders

Pro: Tom, Martin, David, Fleur, Daniel, Steve, Bryan, Luis
Con: Davy, Joel, myself (luck-dependent)
Undecided: Ace (proposing a non-guaranteed variant instead)
Probable outcome: yes.

3. Snake draft order

Pro: Fleur, Joel, Steve, Daniel, Bryan (all citing fairness)
Con: Luis, myself (bad teams need all the help they can get)
Undecided: n/a
Probable outcome: yes.

4. Restriction on neo-pro trades
Players drafted less than 12 months ago are not eligible for trades.

Pro: Ace, Fleur, Steve (against the spirit)
Con: Luis, Tom, Joel, Bryan, myself (more strategic)
Undecided: n/a
Probable outcome: ???

5. A brand new definition of neo-pro
"Neo-pro is a rider who never spent an entire season with a WT/ProConti team IRL."

Pro: Daniel
Con: Luis
With an age limit: Fleur, Tom, Joel, Bryan
Undecided: myself
Probable outcome: ???



New game brainstorming moves here: http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=313669.0
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Re: Call me crazy (aka additional leagues brainstorming)
« Reply #134 on: November 17, 2017, 02:59:37 PM »
1&2 Single year contracts.

3 Snake draft order.

4 No problem with trading as long as itís not a collusion between friends.

5 Like the definition and I would add Ď25 or under on the date of the first race (TDU)í.

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Re: Call me crazy (aka additional leagues brainstorming)
« Reply #135 on: November 17, 2017, 03:05:44 PM »
Thanks, updated!
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Re: Call me crazy (aka additional leagues brainstorming)
« Reply #136 on: November 17, 2017, 03:39:06 PM »
MY VOTE:

2019 draft format - summary thus far:

1. 1-year contracts for 1st-rounders

NO

2. Optional 2-year contracts for 2nd-rounders

YES

3. Snake draft order (NeoPRO)

YES

4. Restriction on neo-pro trades
Players drafted less than 12 months ago are not eligible for trades.

NO

5. A brand new definition of neo-pro
"Neo-pro is a rider who never spent an entire season with a WT/ProConti team IRL."
With an age limit: YES
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Re: Call me crazy (aka additional leagues brainstorming)
« Reply #137 on: November 17, 2017, 03:46:00 PM »
Thanks Bryan, updated again!
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Re: Call me crazy (aka additional leagues brainstorming)
« Reply #138 on: November 17, 2017, 03:47:00 PM »
1. 2 year
2. Optional 2 year
3. Good as it is now.
4. Con. The auction can go very wrong and this is a nice way to keep focus on the game.
5. I like it as it is

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Re: Call me crazy (aka additional leagues brainstorming)
« Reply #139 on: November 17, 2017, 03:51:29 PM »
Muito obrigado! Updated :judge:
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