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For some structure: a reminder of (now numbered) potential 2019 changes currently being discussed, plus a new one at the bottom:1. 1-year contracts for 1st-roundersMy opinion: undecided, but I can see why it came up. After some years we've all become experts. This season Luis destroyed us, but teams 2-10 all finished in that 7300-8300 range. The season before that, the two teams on top of the rankings had Ewan and Gaviria as neos, while no fewer than 7 teams right behind them finished within mere 700 points. To give one of those teams 2 free years of the next superstar is like Christmas and Easter together.2. 2-year contracts for 2nd-roundersMy opinion: probably unnecessary, it's a sheer lottery. None of us have ever heard of Patrick Müller, Simon Sellier, William Barta, Nicola Conci, Damien Touze, Giovanni Carboni, Matteo Fabbro, Corentin Ermenault, Bram Welten, Valentin Madouas, or Nathan van Hooydonck. We cannot know if they're good enough to become successful pros. Their bosses don't know if they're good enough to become successful pros. They don't know themselves if they're good enough to become successful pros! Also, it's irrelevant that they mostly sign 2-year contracts IRL - this is still a puny fantasy game. And passing remains an option.3. Snake draft orderMy opinion: undecided. The argument that we use it in all other games is irrelevant, because there we start from scratch. Here, kept Pozzovivo at 240k and Kwiato at 610k, that's why the current system is designed specifically to help out those who finished at the bottom as much as possible.4. Restriction on neo-pro tradesMy opinion: undecided. For a quick check on how you feel about it, you can visit the sheet and ask yourself whether my kindergarten squad is good strategizing or rules abuse. Voices above range between Tom's "unless you're new, you should know what you're doing", via Fleur's "2nd year only", all the way to Ace's "entirely illegal, violates the spirit of the game".5. A brand new brainstorming subject: new definition of neo-pro?This year suddenly a lot of people are struggling to understand our definition:"Neo-pro is a rider born in 1995 or later who wasn't on a real-life professional team (WT/ProConti) in spring 2017"Also, when somebody new joins in the future, things would be easier for them if our definition matched the one used IRL.If that's something we want to consider, it would require 2 changes: removal of age limit, and taking into account previous seasons too.I believe the accurate wording would be "Neo-pro is a rider who never spent an entire season with a WT/ProConti team IRL."Curious to hear your thoughts, but please think twice. Sligthly worried about any Pandora boxes like geezers who happen to have ridden for a conti team for the last decade. Example of neo-pros if the definition changes:2017 - Dupont http://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rider.asp?riderid=79482018 - A. Jensen http://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rider.asp?riderid=170882019 - you-know-who http://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rider.asp?riderid=21971
4. you know my stance on this. Although I totally disagree with Florry's assessment that you can pick up 10-15 riders for next to nothing. There (imo) have been a lot of riders going for 60/70/80k and even higher that in the past would have gone for 30/40k (even the relative nobodies), I think picking up cheap riders has become so hard now
For some structure: a reminder of (now numbered) potential 2019 changes currently being discussed, plus a new one at the bottom:1. 1-year contracts for 1st-rounders2. 2-year contracts for 2nd-roundersMy preference has been the same since the league began; 2 years for 1st round picks, 1 year with a non-guaranteed 2nd year for 2nd round picks. Additional idea: Open FA a couple of days before the draft for bidding on Neos only, but teams must start the auction at 420k or more. This would prevent anyone getting a rider considered a pretty sure thing to score well for just 30k for 2 seasons.4. Restriction on neo-pro tradesI of course meant the same as Florry; no trades in first year. The game works better when everyone is trying to field a competitive squad.
Bid for 1 year contracts (25 man teams) but you can keep any rider at double the cost the following season.
Thanks for your contributions, guys! Keep them coming, and I'll try to decide something concrete next week.If I understand correctly, that's 500 separate auctions. Basically another very big game, but not really all that different from the existing main game?Btw I've been pondering about something else we could do more regularly, but not quite as intense as Wall Street. The best I've come up till now is a little guessing game where before a race (or even a stage) we each have the option to name one rider who'll score for us. Of course the same rider could (and often would) be chosen by multiple people, no problem.Challenges:Scoring would have to be relative, otherwise a single Grand Tour guess annihilates a million other bets.Complete lack of activity should hurt you a tiny bit, but not too much. You should be able to dynamically choose your activity level between daily, regular, and occasional.Example implementation:Grand Tour GC: 15 for 1st place, 10 for 2nd, 6 - 3rd, 3 - 4th, 1 - 5th, 0 - no bet or 6th, -1 - 7th, -2 - 8th, -3 - 9th, -4 - 10th or lower.World Tour stage race or a monument: 10 for 1st place, 6 for 2nd, 3 - 3rd, 1 - 4th, 0 - no bet or 5th, -1 - 6th, -2 - 7th, -3 - 8th or lower.Grand Tour stage or a World Tour one-day race: 4 for 1st place, 2 for 2nd, 1 - 3rd, 0 - no bet or 4th, -1 - 5th, -2 - 6th or lower.Any smaller tour/stage, for you Tropicale Amissa Bongo experts out there: 2 for 1st place, 1 for 2nd, 0 - no bet or 3rd, -1 - 4th or lower.Implementation details:If you want to place the first bet in any race, you start a thread with the race name. Others reply.You insert your own scores into the score sheet.Changes possible until the deadline - midnight local time.Thoughts?
Also had an idea for an additional game.Bid for 1 year contracts (25 man teams) but you can keep any rider at double the cost the following season.