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Re-Sign Values Should Be Updated
« on: February 25, 2015, 10:06:27 PM »
I don't believe that the re-sign values have been extended, since the league was formed.  At the very least, perhaps we could update the top 5 salaries to bring them in line with real life.
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Re: Re-Sign Values Should Be Updated
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2015, 06:51:06 PM »
Absolutely this should be done. Maybe we can get a group of guys to each take one roster position?
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Re: Re-Sign Values Should Be Updated
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2015, 08:28:17 PM »
There is currently an issue on the board concerning Compensation for FA Relievers. It might be in our best interest to resolve one issue at a time?
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Re: Re-Sign Values Should Be Updated
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2015, 12:24:16 PM »
Sorry for introducing this, while another proposal was on the table, but I think it's extremely important and has flied under the radar for years.

I wanted to get it out there before I forgot about it.
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Re: Re-Sign Values Should Be Updated
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2015, 01:46:33 PM »
Sorry for introducing this, while another proposal was on the table, but I think it's extremely important and has flied under the radar for years.

I wanted to get it out there before I forgot about it.

Not a problem Roy. In fact, it is directly related to the Compensation issue. I'm just trying to steer the conversation to one aspect of the problem at a time. Hoping we will be more productive that way.
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Re: Re-Sign Values Should Be Updated
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2015, 04:18:28 PM »
Can someone please update me on where this topic stands?  Which positions have been updated?  Isn't Joe Mauer the highest paid C at 23m per year?
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Re: Re-Sign Values Should Be Updated
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2015, 07:58:02 PM »
Can someone please update me on where this topic stands?  Which positions have been updated?  Isn't Joe Mauer the highest paid C at 23m per year?

The extension values were updated on October 1, 2015, based on the contracts for each position within FGM.  If a player was released prior to the end of the 2015 season, he was not included.  All the extensions for each position are listed in the Contracts section of the Rules.

Joe Mauer is no longer a C, he is only a CI.  He lost his eligibility as a C after the 2014 season. 
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Re: Re-Sign Values Should Be Updated
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2015, 12:21:21 PM »
Was there a vote deciding that FGM contracts be used for extension purposes rather than real life contracts?
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Re: Re-Sign Values Should Be Updated
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2015, 12:41:38 PM »
Was there a vote deciding that FGM contracts be used for extension purposes rather than real life contracts?
There was discussion on it but I can't find it right now. It all started with Compensation for RP and evolved into trying to strike more of a balance between position players and pitching. As for an actual vote, no, I don't recall one. Maybe Ernie can shed more light on it

 
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Re: Re-Sign Values Should Be Updated
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2015, 02:07:32 PM »
Was there a vote deciding that FGM contracts be used for extension purposes rather than real life contracts?

There was no vote, however, I posted the rationale for changing the Extension Values based on the principle of supply and demand within FGM.  As a league, we set the values of the contracts based upon what transpires during free agency.  We cannot realistically utilize real life contracts as our extension values because we have a limited salary cap and our league cannot viably support the mega-contract amounts that MLB players are getting in today's market.

With that, I posted extension value scales for every position on the FGM board.  I asked for comments and left the on the board during the month of September.  During that time, 3 GMs commented, but no one voiced any disapproval after I adjusted the RP scales. 

In regards to the Rules Committee voting on this issue, it would seem to me, with the absence of any comment from a single member of the Rules Committee, coupled with the fact that only 3 members voted on the last issue presented to them for a vote (RPs Type A status), there are some things which need to happen under the vestiges of Executive Discretion.

Rick worked very diligently on updating the rules and put them up for approval by a league-wide vote--yet very few members voted on the articles as they were presented. 

Overall, I think FGM is moving in a positive direction.  We cannot keep repeating the same mistake of dragging our feet when it comes to dealing with pertinent issues.  With this issue, I researched, I investigated and I asked a variety of ProFSL leaders, so I could do something for the good of the league.  At Corey's suggestion, I decided that the principle of supply and demand was the best way to go.  As a league, we don't have to depend on what's done in other leagues because we establish the guidelines based on how we operate.

Rick and I continually ask for input, and I did so with this issue, so as such, we are going with our current extension values--and will continue to update them at the end of each season--so we don't go six years and end up in the same predicament.
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