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  • sandman: Making him P-2013
    Today at 05:43:33 PM
  • sandman: He is on a 1yr deal in real life (arb or not) this is so each player is treated the same
    Today at 05:43:51 PM
  • sandman: Freddie Freeman is eligible his contract is 14:$5.125M, 15:$8.5M, 16:$12M, 17:$20.5M, 18:$21M, 19:$21M, 20:$22M, 21:$22M
    Today at 05:44:28 PM
  • sandman: Smoking Gun he is so overpaid
    Today at 05:44:51 PM
  • Jpsprague10: baseball reference is a good tool for seeing when rookie status was surpassed , then count up the years to see if eligible. Daunting task after awhile, but it works
    Today at 05:45:03 PM
  • mike0542: Technically, He may be on a one year deal, but he's not a FA.
    Today at 05:45:14 PM
  • Fitzy1962: Ouch!
    Today at 05:45:23 PM
  • scottnva: because he signed an extension b4 season
    Today at 05:45:29 PM
  • Fitzy1962: Freeman way overpaid!
    Today at 05:46:29 PM
  • mike0542: well just a question in general, before you said that some arb players are eligible.  Which players would those be?
    Today at 05:46:35 PM
  • scottnva: ok this helps thx
    Today at 05:46:43 PM
  • Ace: mike; only players with a contract for 2015 (not an option ) are eligible
    Today at 05:47:48 PM
  • Ace: plus...
    Today at 05:47:54 PM
  • Ace: anyone who would have been on a spec contract for 2915
    Today at 05:48:17 PM
  • Ace: *2015
    Today at 05:48:25 PM
  • Ace: spec contracts are for any player less than 3 years removed from exceeding rookie eligibility
    Today at 05:48:59 PM
  • mike0542: Okay, but before in chat, sandman said that arb players count.  what arb player count?
    Today at 05:49:17 PM
  • Ace: arb players can't count
    Today at 05:50:09 PM
  • Ace: bur pre-arb can
    Today at 05:50:19 PM
  • Jpsprague10: Essentially anyone who has reached arb in real life that wasn't a super two is ineligible it appears.
    Today at 05:50:48 PM
  • sandman: Some super 2's will be available
    Today at 05:51:00 PM
  • Ace: anyone on a current arb contract is ineligible
    Today at 05:51:11 PM
  • sandman: Jp is right on
    Today at 05:51:15 PM
  • sandman: Correct Ace.
    Today at 05:51:26 PM
  • Ace: how can a super 2 be available?
    Today at 05:51:35 PM
  • Fitzy1962: Has anyone seen any information on either extentions/player values?
    Today at 05:51:42 PM
  • Ace: as in current super 2?
    Today at 05:51:47 PM
  • scottnva: so if they have passed rookie threshold and dont have a 2015 contract they are NOT eligibile?
    Today at 05:52:33 PM
  • mike0542: Alright I understand that now, but now my question is why?
    Today at 05:53:19 PM
  • sandman: Depends Scott. Example Brett Oberhultzer has surpassed rookie numbers. But he is eligible
    Today at 05:53:25 PM
  • Jpsprague10: They won't reach the 3 year mark until after the 2015 season
    Today at 05:53:36 PM
  • Jpsprague10: Therefore still under contract
    Today at 05:53:59 PM
  • sandman: If they surpassed rookie numbers in 2012,2013,2014 they are available
    Today at 05:54:02 PM
  • mike0542: Why let someone like stanton go into FA when he would easily be a top 5 pick in the draft when we're supposed to be picking the best team possible.
    Today at 05:54:47 PM
  • sandman: Tood Frazier is available. [link]
    Today at 05:55:26 PM
  • sandman: Surpassed rookie threshold in 2012 making him a P-2015
    Today at 05:55:38 PM
  • sandman: Because there is no contract for Stanton in 2015
    Today at 05:56:16 PM
  • Fitzy1962: Maybe the easiest way to say it is "if he's in the 1st year of an ARB contract, then he isn't eligible, because technically his ARB status for next year means he doesn't have a contract?
    Today at 05:56:40 PM
  • mike0542: i understand that, but why is that a rule.
    Today at 05:56:57 PM
  • Jpsprague10: Free agency is going to be insane
    Today at 05:57:12 PM
  • 9inches: sand, whats going on in MB?
    Today at 05:57:34 PM
  • mike0542: I understand the rule, but i don't understand why its a rule.
    Today at 05:57:35 PM
  • Ace: sandman shall we just say that's the rule; exceeded rookie status in 2012 is eligible, exceeded in 2011 ineligible
    Today at 05:57:51 PM
  • Fitzy1962: 1st year of ARB is when they begin getting paid by market value depermined usually by an "arbitrator" and no one knows what that number will be.
    Today at 05:58:01 PM
  • Jpsprague10: I think a better route would have been to make.them draftable with the knowledge they would need to be extended
    Today at 05:58:09 PM
  • Fitzy1962: But we don't have any extention information yet.
    Today at 05:59:05 PM
  • mike0542: I know what Stanton is worth on the open Market. If he was eligible, I'm sure people would draft him knowing that he has a big payday coming
    Today at 05:59:16 PM
  • sandman: Jp that would open up a huge can of worms.
    Today at 05:59:19 PM
  • Jpsprague10: or even a set price for.the initial arb eligibles in terms of contract value
    Today at 05:59:24 PM
  • sandman: Extension values are determined after FA
    Today at 05:59:29 PM

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