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Franchise NHL: Transactions / Colorado Promotes
« on: April 22, 2019, 08:57:12 PM »
Colorado awards an EL contract

RW - Andrei Svechnikov $3.0m (2019-2022)

Franchise NHL / Re: DISCUSSION: Blocked Shot Stat?
« on: April 20, 2019, 01:36:20 PM »
If we add it, Blocked Shots should be a nominal stat.
0.15 per Blocked Shot makes good sense.

Letís vote, Iím on team Beef

20-21 season @ 0.15 per


With all due respect, as vocal as you are, Detroit was to my recollection the first team to drop & draft during the inaugural supplemental. Goalie Larson I think. Ironically you opened the door that others are walking through now.

I thought both ideas were creatively delivered by Mordacai. Not sure but back to point of conversation

I think Iím ok with the supplemental draft providing Montreal franchise ability for the player. I just see the prospect contract rules are clearly posted (not grey or in need of interpretation) so I do not agree with signing a player on a different pay scale until after the rule is announced/introduced to the entire league.

If we start the rule after the draft Iím very cool with the change; level playing field for all.

Franchise NHL / Re: Re: Franchise NHL - Questions Section
« on: April 17, 2019, 10:13:56 PM »
Though this is a discussion... the decision is that yr 1 and current SDP prospects (those drafted in 2018 + 2019) get a standard 0.6m ELC for skaters and 1.0m for goalies. Draft position in the Supplemental or NHl entry draft are not a factor for the SDP.

If majority of owners want to alter that after this discussion sometime in the future it can be done.

Devils advocate or whatever here but the only rule for prospect contracts written indicated nhl draft position. Nothing else exists related to contract rules.

I think the decision should go into writing before practice; feels like proper sequence else weíre offering a private advantage

I agree with the Hawks fan this is small as itís only to the benefit of one team and easily reversed.

Franchise NHL / Re: DISCUSSION: Blocked Shot Stat?
« on: April 17, 2019, 05:42:00 PM »
It mainly adds value to 3rd 4th liners as well as 2nd & 3rd Blueliner pairings.

I agree low tier defensive players need the bump and itís a common added cat in other leagues

I think I would vote yes at .15 for 20-21 season... probably still need to sleep on it more but I like the idea

Franchise NHL / Re: DISCUSSION: Blocked Shot Stat?
« on: April 17, 2019, 05:38:06 PM »
But if the majority of owners want it, I would suggest implementing 2yrs out give it impacts the value of players and their extensions.

I agree on that point, smart

Franchise NHL / DISCUSSION: Supplemental Draft ELC value determination
« on: April 17, 2019, 05:36:00 PM »
Open Question carried here since the listed rules donít appear to mention SDP EL contract value being different than Entry Draft NHL Position

Start at the bottom

Be back later in the PM
Today at 05:23:05 PM
PR & I are pretty good with answering all grey area matters.
Today at 05:22:54 PM
whenever in doubt, post or PM the question
Today at 05:22:35 PM
Let's make it a discussion thread gents
Today at 05:22:08 PM
yeah i don't think I've ever seen that Blues guy on here
Today at 05:22:04 PM
Got to run. Just want to address the question
Today at 05:21:44 PM
PPG, I know we already given you enough work around here, I don't want life to be more difficult for you :rofl: that's why we should stick to one set of ELC values
Today at 05:21:37 PM
If not return by rollover, we will list the franchises for sale
Today at 05:21:00 PM
PR & I will manage ANH & STL ... ANH is paid up
Today at 05:20:29 PM
The Ducks guy was pretty active
Today at 05:20:10 PM
SDP were meant to be fun, exciting and straightfwd to admin
Today at 05:20:00 PM
What happened with the Anaheim and STL owners? Looks like they've gone MIA
Today at 05:19:51 PM
I think most GMs assumed all prospects, entry and supp had the same ELC values, and I think those values make sense, and it still rewards GMs for prospect research because undrafted players taken in the supp can get minimum contracts for 3 years
Today at 05:19:49 PM
Use the easy button, itís just easier
Today at 05:19:23 PM
one ELC value is definitely straight fwd to process. no validation of draft position, ELC value range, posting accuracy, etc.
Today at 05:17:48 PM
It means all Entry and Supp players are subject to the same ELC values, and all players have their real life draft position listed there for you
Today at 05:16:24 PM
But if keep the same ELC values, your job is easier because you already list their real life NHL draft position for Supp players
Today at 05:15:16 PM
the Supplemental draft prospects were to get a blanket ELC value to make my life processing them easier
Today at 05:12:52 PM
I know when we created the Supplemental draft we didn't want to create another set of ELC values but also didnt feel the Enrty Draft ELC values were valid
Today at 05:11:54 PM
I like the SDP, but its not really a supplement.  :P
Today at 05:11:50 PM
Combing thru the page
Today at 05:10:36 PM
or at least need clarification.
Today at 05:07:47 PM
yeah, seems like some of the rules in that section are outdated.
Today at 05:05:12 PM
Going to be a board topic Iíd imagine
Today at 05:04:07 PM
It would be one thing if we put it in writing then occurances
Today at 05:03:16 PM
in the rules
Today at 05:02:57 PM
Once a player is removed from the MiLR they are ineligible to return to the MiLR.
Today at 05:02:45 PM
I donít think there is liberty to adjust the rule without an open forum
Today at 05:02:43 PM
more tools in the toolkit to use
Today at 05:02:11 PM
Also, if you draft a bust, you draft a bust. FNHL owners don't need easy bailouts for bad drafting
Today at 05:02:03 PM
The rules are clearly listed as NHL draft position-agree
Today at 05:01:49 PM
A team that drafted Griffen Reinhart can sign him as a FP, or to a 1 year deal then then extend him for the league minimum
Today at 05:01:09 PM
the loophole of buying out and redrafting with supp picks makes sense in the rules the way they are written, but supp drafted players are prospects and prospects get entry deals based on their real life NHL draft position, not where we drafted them
Today at 05:00:12 PM
A good thing if a team drafts Griffen Reinhart at #4oa
Today at 04:59:41 PM
It almost make the entry level contracts less meaningful because they can all easily be changed to a league minimum
Today at 04:58:34 PM
as we going thru 1 cycle of SDP maturing, we'll see the effect and if need be adjust/amend rules.
Today at 04:58:32 PM
its same with Supp picks. It seems to be too easy to get FPs that way. No actually hitting on real picks.
Today at 04:58:07 PM
Yes, I that process and loophole is fine with me, but its not the same as entry level deals
Today at 04:57:30 PM
with a benefit tied to it
Today at 04:57:23 PM
Rd5 pick is a reward for Div Champs
Today at 04:56:59 PM
Jonathan, yes - happened last yr
Today at 04:56:34 PM
the teams that held a player on their active roster, then dropped/BO the prospect to draft them thru the Supplemental I know are happy with the process.
Today at 04:56:23 PM
I can go in FA this year, pay whatever price for whatever prospect, and then he is a FP in round 5 draft.
Today at 04:55:34 PM
how are FP watered down?
Today at 04:53:01 PM
Yup, research and Franchise Players are watered down.
Today at 04:52:33 PM
It made my prospect research less valuable. I could have drafted Quinn Hughes at a minimum contract instead of Jimmy Schuldt
Today at 04:51:01 PM
I'd like it better if only entry picks could be franchised and supp. picks wipe that out.
Today at 04:49:47 PM
I like that we are increasing the value of prospects and picks overall.
Today at 04:49:15 PM
So the champ gets rewards for his work
Today at 04:48:46 PM
But it just made your prospect research more valuable
Today at 04:48:34 P
Izaman, that's a timing game & potentially makes top picks even more valuable.
Today at 04:48:01 PM
It doesn't really take any work or research for me to drop Quinn Hughes and redraft him with a Supp pick to save cap
Today at 04:46:54 PM
that is a loophole that has appears now that we've almost completed our 2nd supplemental draft
Today at 04:46:26 PM
teams won't want to trade supp picks because most teams have a high drafted player they can just drop and draft with a supp pick
Today at 04:45:52 PM
well, supplemental draftees are only of value if you do homework and find them
Today at 04:45:35 PM
I have no reason to sign Jack Hughes to a $3m entry contract when I can just wait for the supp draft, drop him and draft him for the league minimum, same with any other high drafted player
Today at 04:45:14 PM
the rule with min. salary
Today at 04:44:42 PM
discarded or overlooked prospectrs given a 2nd chance
Today at 04:44:27 PM
But with this rule, that's not what will happen
Today at 04:44:02 PM
The supplement was meant to be the FNHL draft where gems are discovered
Today at 04:43:31 PM
the PRO = high activity period after the Finals. Con = potential abuse, but we felt this would be limited as with most rules
Today at 04:42:43 PM
I'd personally prefer that BOs not be allowed until after all the picks are in but honestly I don't care about it that much
Today at 04:42:18 PM
PR & I discussed the pro's & con's
Today at 04:42:01 PM
a few have asked via PM
Today at 04:41:11 PM
Yeah that's why mine got traded to Detroit lol
Today at 04:40:26 PM
I have some concerns with that approach because it messes with values: that makes the supplemental draft much more valuable than the entry draft, it also makes round 2 supp picks more valuable than early round 1 picks, because early round 1 picks occur during a buyout freeze
Today at 04:39:29 PM
sort of like the BO and draft thru Supplemental... :toast:
Today at 04:39:01 PM
Today at 04:38:48 PM
it's for all you FNHL owners to enjoy as a benefit
Today at 04:38:13 PM
To simply the ELC for prospects coming from the Supplemental draft, the FNHL league min. would be used across the board.
Today at 04:37:50 PM
the Supplemental draft is an FNHL thing.
Today at 04:36:16 PM
most supplemental picks wouldn't have been drafted high in the real draft so I guess that's why this has never occured to anyone
Today at 04:36:14 PM
Yes FNHL entry draft prospects get EL contract based on NHL draft position
Today at 04:36:02 PM
That makes the supplemental draft much more valuable than the entry draft, it also makes round 2 supp picks more valuable than early round 1 picks, because early round 1 picks occur during a buyout freeze
Today at 04:35:32 PM
Aren't the entry contracts based on the real draft though and not the FNHL draft?
Today at 04:35:01 PM
wipes away the old
Today at 04:33:44 PM
Supplemental draft washes the original
Today at 04:33:37 PM
Wait, any supplemental players get the league minimum gets a league minimum entry level deal? I thought all prospects receive their value based on their real life NHL draft position, not their FNHL draft postition, so wouldn't that mean Entry and Supp draft players are treated the same and given a deal based on their real life draft position?
Today at 04:28:49 PM
Gears are always turning with this FNHL group of owners :toast::winner:
Today at 04:18:26 PM
I saw the move. Up there with Izaman and Antman thinking. Watch out gents
Today at 04:17:47 PM
Mordecai PMed the Question. SDP prospects that mature and need an Entry Level deal get the league min. 0.6m skaters or 1.0 for goalies
Today at 04:17:21 PM
Yeah, everyone left is a lottery ticket; I just happen to like gambling
Today at 03:47:39 PM
That modacai is always looking forward
Today at 03:45:08 PM
Probably a good move, Brady at $6m would save him 1.5 per... verses drafting a 30% likely player with moderate ceiling
Today at 03:44:29 PM
I used a Franchise tag on a $2m Debrusk this year, and Montreal only had 1 player tagged last year, so who knows. I'm just guessing as it's the only thing that makes sense to me
Today at 03:28:39 PM
Got it, not sure I had Bradís ceiling at Franchise tag but then again
Today at 03:23:24 PM
But since Montreal drafted him in the Supplemental draft, he should be eligible for an FNHL Franchise Player discount down the road
Today at 03:12:53 PM
No, he's still owed the full contract based on his real NHL draft spot, but he was originally drafted by Ottawa in FNHL, not Montreal
Today at 03:12:20 PM
Heís still due a contract on NHL draft slot.,. I think that one doesnít work out for him... worth a gamble to see moderator reaction
Today at 02:50:18 PM
Not really addressed in the EL contract value... Iíd think heís still due the big salary at 82 games eligibility
Today at 02:46:25 PM
Are we thinking the SDP cancels the original draft position?
Today at 02:44:07 PM
Just saw that. Slick move.
Today at 02:20:35 PM
Drafting Brady Tkachuk was so sly, why do I have to be up against such saavy GMs in the Atlantic? Mordecia is playing 4-D Chess over here

Franchise NHL: Transactions / COL Extensions
« on: April 17, 2019, 02:40:04 PM »
Colorado Avalanche Extensions

Tyson Jost, $2.5m (2018-2020-EL)
Tyson Jost, $0.6m (2019-2021)
147 18-19 C
155 18-19 LW
164 17-28 C
179 17-18 LW

Sonny Milano, $2.0m (2017-2020-EL)

Sonny Milano, $0.6m (2019-2021)

Horrible 18-19 LW
199 17-18 LW

Kyle Okposo, $1.7m (2017-2020)

Kyle Okposo, $0.6m (2019-2021)

120 18-19 RW
111 17-18 RW

Tobias Rieder, $1.3m (2018-2020)
Tobias Rieder, $0.6m (2019-2021)
204 18-19 RW
134 17-18 RW

Alexander Wennberg, $0.8m (2018-2020)
Alexander Wennberg, $0.6m (2019-2021)

Horrible 18-19 C
135 17-18 C
Zac Rinaldo $0.4m (2017-2019)
Zac Rinaldo $0.6m (2017-2019)
Horrible 18-19LW RW C
154 17-18 LW
152 17-18 RW
145 17-8 C
Kasperi Kapanen, $0.2m (2017-2019)
Kasperi Kapanen, $2.7m (2017-2019)
45 18-19 RW
Miserable 17-18 RW

Sneaking in a reminder to add MacEwan to my SDP and correction on the pick that moved to Vancouver was Coloradoís pick 49 OA. We saved pick 35 OA formerly TB still belongs with Colorado

Franchise NHL: Transactions / Re: Wild and Colorado trade
« on: April 17, 2019, 07:53:51 AM »
Wild get
SDP Round 2 - 2019  (from :DET-NHL:*)
SDP Round 2 - 2019  Vancouver

Colorado gets
G - Cayden Primeau (2017: 7/199 - 0 Games)

Colorado accepts this trade; took us off plan but weíre flexible.

Thanks to the Wild for the trade and happy picking

Franchise NHL / Re: DISCUSSION: Blocked Shot Stat?
« on: April 17, 2019, 12:05:17 AM »
I'd say given these values
Shots-on-Goal: 0.25
Hits per game: 0.25

Blocked Shot should be the same 0.25 to keep it simple.

That adds quite a lot of points 35 pts per year for the top 50 bs blueliners alone - 1/3 of those guys are currently on the cheap. I donít like that. I would say it helps add value to the Defencemen overall which is needed.


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