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« on: December 08, 2013, 08:52:59 AM »
I would be very cautious with anything life-long. If rookies also get agents, it's basically like playing roulette. Giannis Antetokounmpo is either the next Kevin Garnett or the next Fab Melo. We just don't know, and we shouldn't glorify the person who makes the lucky guess. Especially when 99% or people outside North America don't care about college basketball. Therefore I'd strongly lean towards the one-time thing for starters. (If you draft a great rookie, maybe you could get a small bonus later.) It also eliminates the need for insurance methinks.
We haven't discussed the timing yet. April 16 is both the end of RS and the deadline for withdrawing your draft eligibility, thus a natural candidate to start the auctions in a separate subboard. The pool of players looking for agents could include all expiring contracts, all other players eligible for an extension, all players eligible for draft, and all 3rd year 1st round picks (i.e. eligible for the rookie scale expansion).
If you really think we're close, maybe try to compose a single post which you'd like me to eventually place in the Rules section. If some parts have several possible mechanics for us to choose from, write down all of those and we'll select one (or a combination) at some point. Then we'll need to analyse if it's ultra-clear, correctly formatted, exhaustive, logical, understandable, yet as compact as possible. I probably won't have time till Xmas, so no rush.
« on: December 07, 2013, 07:51:40 AM »
The winning bid amounts come straight off the leader board.
Now we talkin!!! If there is a single amount of money serving as both your purchasing power and the result, things start looking real smooth! Any new agent just gets X per default. I can be 500M or even more. You bid 18M to become LeBron's agent. If he signs for 19M, you win 1M. If he signs for 17M, effectively you lost 1M. Plus of course the bonuses for signing him to: a playoff team, championship team, home-grown team, big market team, low taxes team, good weather team, team which will include him in their 8-man rotation etc. This could seamlessly eliminate the somewhat artificial TTS and/or TMS in the process
(Whether just the average salary or the total salary should count needs to be discussed. I'd lean towards a modifier like the one used currently.)
In such a scenario, I don't mind giving the entire free agent class to everybody signed up by early June 2014. That's 200 players, tops.
Assigning rookies depends on whether the player&agent relationships continues after the contract is signed, or if it's a one-time thing.
The former case gives a nice long-term feel, helps with incorporating extensions at some point, and is more realistic. However, it could quickly suck in all elite players, and begs questions about how the leader board should be viewed: if I spend 10M on a top rookie in 2014, I will only get my money back if he proves to be a max player 4 years later. I'm thus hurting my leader board score this very summer.
In the latter case, we can safely ignore rookies, and whoever wants to join by June 2015/16/17/89 will again have 200 players to fight for.
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« on: December 07, 2013, 05:16:02 AM »
does that mean the agent who drafts a break out player should be punished while those who draft busts should be rewarded?
Among vets? Absolutely! If you sign me to MLE and I start producing 100fpg, you're an awful agent.
The team who drafts lebron isnt going to have much auction dollars left so it all balances out. Also note you only get paid for contracts you sign.
Remember that we cannot accept a mechanic that divides all the best players between agents/agencies on day 1. That makes it unattractive to join later. How am I supposed to recruit more people with "come and become Jon Leuer's agent"? So we're still very far away from anything that works. That's why I'm asking you to think outside the box. Sth like this
New idea: how about each agent entering the game gets to manage a maximum number of X players (e.g. 10: 6 vets, 1 rookie, 1 sophomore, 1 third year player, 1 fourth year player) operating within a personal salary cap? Say, $40M. Or $50M.
On day 1, we'd hold a snake draft for those already on board. Anthony Davis, Kyrie, and Lillard will be gone, fair enough. Some interesting players will remain agent-less though. If you don't have an agent, you succumb to the existing FO rules.
That way your simple leader board makes a lot of sense again. Everybody starts at $50M. Every summer your total salaries are adjusted (by new contracts or raises already incorporated into the deals).
« on: December 06, 2013, 05:54:51 PM »
I'm not a big fan of that leader board, for now. It rewards those who drafted the best players initially. There are only so many max players in the NBA. Also, being LeBron's agent should be the most boring, not the most rewarding. I'd lean towards some kind of FPG/$ metric, because the guys who got Biedrins or Joe Johnson their deals are the best agents ever, while Stephenson's and Parsons' agents suck.
Also, could you please write down the part of the rules exactly describing the relationship between the agent and the GM's? In light of those, we'll later analyse potential traps. (What if the agent is too greedy? What if the GM is too stingy? What if the agent is too gullible? What if the GM is too extravagant? What if either of the two is away? May either side reveal the relationship to the media? Can players fire agents? etc. etc. etc.)
Thats why i suggest we start with 25 agents. Unlikely we'd add to that number.
I'd say it's 100% guaranteed we'll start with X, being both smaller than 25 and - more importantly - impossible to predict. After that, we'll keep adding more and more people. The agencies are an option, but that's merely slicing the cake into smaller pieces where the same mechanic prevails. Let's keep thinking out of the box. Something much more elegant should come up eventually.
It will also be the only nba agent simulation on the net.
...and now you know why I'm being such a pain in the ass demanding clear and extensive wording followed by indepth simulation