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Armchair Fantasy Baseball: Archives / Re: Los Angeles Angels - Trade Block
« on: December 22, 2013, 04:03:54 PM »
Adding Mark Trumbo and Peter Bourjos to the trading block. Still open to dealing Jean Segura but I would have to get a MLB or near MLB ready MI or 3B in return.

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Armchair Fantasy Baseball: Archives / Re: New Ownership Guidelines
« on: December 21, 2013, 02:06:19 PM »
Yeah, I am on board with this.

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Angels select

#231 P Trevor Frank

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Angels select

#200 RHP Brian Gilbert

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The money is a huge part of this deal and I agree that you have to pay in picks or prospects to dump a bad contract. This is the case with Dunn. The problem I have with the deal is paying to dump Ramirez, he is a valuable asset that other teams would pay for.  For the record I don't care if or to whom you trade Ramirez. I myself have no interest in him, I just ask that all teams get fair value for their assets.  All I'm going to say, congrats on the trade it looks like it will pass.


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I really don't need to respond as it looks like the trade will pass easily and sommersd can correct me if i am wrong but I think you are viewing this trade differently than sommersd and I and many others do. Sommersd said during our negotiations that Ramirez has a fair contract and I agree. It costs something to dump Dunn and his salary. It costs something to turn all the lower picks into a 3rd rd pick (which sommersd stated is a net positive for him). It also costs something to turn Wittgren into Roach (granted, sommersd did say this is possibly a wash but Roach is by most all rankings I have seen a higher rated prospect). The price to accomplish those gains was Ramirez. If Ramirez was 22yo, cheap with 5 years of control left then yes there might be an issue. But he is 32yo, on a fair 2 yr deal and doesn't figure into the White Sox long term plans.

That said I respect your opinion. Just wanted to offer some insight into how I (and I think sommersd) view the trade  :toast:

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Angels confirm.

While this trade adds nearly $25M in salary and costs a premium draft pick and good prospect, the Angels feel they are ready to compete this year.
Getting the multiple lower draft picks and Wittgren help ease the loss of the 3rd rd pick and Roach. While the Angels could have instead just invested in FA and kept the pick and prospect, this trade was also done with the idea of financial flexibility. Comparable players on the FA market probably would have required 3-4+ years commitment, Dunn and Ramirez are signed to only 1 and 2 year deals respectively. The Angels like this as it keeps options open down the road as players like Trout will be due big pay raises in the final 3 arb years.

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Armchair Fantasy Baseball: Completed Transactions / Angels/White Sox Trade
« on: December 04, 2013, 05:21:46 PM »
Angels and White Sox agree to the following trade, White Sox to confirm

:LAA: 
         2014 3rd rd pick
         Donn Roach

for

:CHW:
          Adam Dunn         (2014: $15M)
          Alexei Ramirez    (2014: $9.5M, 2015: $10M)
          Nick Wittgren
          2013 9th rd pick
          2014 5th, 6th, 7th rd picks
           

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Giants skipped
Brewers skipped
Padres skipped
Braves skipped
Twins skipped
Nationals skipped

Dodgers autopick
RedSox autopick


All skipped teams will be auto skipped going forward until they make their skipped draft picks.

187 Rockies - on the clock until 11:29 PM MST
188 Phillies - on deck
189 Mariners
190 Brewers
191 Mets
192 Padres
193 Braves
194 Orioles
195 Red Sox - autopick
196 White Sox
197 Rays
198 Cubs
199 Diamondbacks
200 Indians

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With 7th rd pick #186 overall, Angels select

150 Arizona Diamondbacks Jamie Westbrook SS

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Armchair Fantasy Baseball: Completed Transactions / Re: Rockies/NYY trade
« on: December 02, 2013, 06:54:59 PM »
While I am envious of the Yankees because I would have liked to make a deal like this I still approve of the deal.

It is not that outlandish of a deal and I can see where limeygreen is coming from. It is also obvious there is no collusion going on here.

 :iatp:

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