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Fantasy Leagues => Franchise NHL: Transactions => Franchise NHL => NHL Leagues => Franchise NHL: Completed Transactions => Topic started by: snugerud on August 19, 2012, 11:55:05 AM
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6 million
aug25-12: added team icon.
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6.3m
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8m
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8.5
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9m
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9.5
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9.9m
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10.5m
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11.7m
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14 million
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Can't believe I'm gonna do this but,
15m
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16m
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18m
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18m
pl post contract.
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Would like to bump winning bid of 18m to 22m and offer contract 4yrs @ $5.5m per yr.
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this has not been allowed in the past as the final bid must be the value that's divided into the appropriate yrs.
once the total value has been divided, only then would you be allowed to modify the players contract to increase yrs.
yes, it's a 2 step process not explicitly outline on the Free Agent rules pg (http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=8271.0) but the rules do state that the contract is derived from the final bid ... so teams cannot modify the final bid before assigning a contract.
FA Bidding
Bids are in format of total contract value. Note that the number of years does not need to be listed until the bid is won. The resulting salary will be the final bid divided by number of years, rounded to the nearest $100k. The winning bid will be the highest total contract amount.
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m.foligno's contract breaks down as
(A) total winning bid is 18.0m
(B) divided by 3yr (since 4yrs wouldn't allow for an acceptable $ range @ 4.5m), equals 6.0m annually.
(C) then you must bump him up to a 4yr deal since 6.0m falls in the 4yr contract range.
(D) final contract is: Marcus Foligno, $6.0m (2015-2016)
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this has not been allowed in the past as the final bid must be the value that's divided into the appropriate yrs.
once the total value has been divided, only then would you be allowed to modify the players contract to increase yrs.
yes, it's a 2 step process not explicitly outline on the Free Agent rules pg (http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=8271.0) but the rules do state that the contract is derived from the final bid ... so teams cannot modify the final bid before assigning a contract.
m.foligno's contract breaks down as
(A) total winning bid is 18.0m
(B) divided by 3yr (since 4yrs wouldn't allow for an acceptable $ range @ 4.5m), equals 6.0m annually.
(C) then you must bump him up to a 4yr deal since 6.0m falls in the 4yr contract range.
(D) final contract is: Marcus Foligno, $6.0m (2015-2016)
It is completely fair. He could have just upped his bid to 22m then split it to 4 years. He is only upping his bid to get it to a four year contract which is more than his 18m bid.
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hockeyfreak6000 can confirm whether he allowed this.
i don't recall this being allowed because it results in a lower annual contract value after the fact. that approach would essentially allow the winning team to modify their final bid.
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hockeyfreak6000 can confirm whether he allowed this.
i don't recall this being allowed because it results in a lower annual contract value after the fact. that approach would essentially allow the winning team to modify their final bid.
:iatp:
I know in my other leagues (World Cup & Red Line) you can up the years or whatever to make it cheaper.
But it should be in the rules that you can do that.
I think that's why in this league we see a lot of players jump from say a 2m bid straight to a 4.5m bid (1.5m 3 yrs), or in the same token, from say a 10m bid right up to a 22m bid. Or at the higher end, someone bids up to 40m right away to get the 5 year contract.
Even though other leagues allow bids to be upped to the next salary level, if this league doesn't, it makes complete sense not to.
If you're going to bid 18m (6m per year) on a 21 year old player, why not bid 22m instead and get him for cheaper (5.5m per) for an extra year?
It's the same thing as bidding on a guy for 4m ... You would assume you want him 2 years at 2m per year.
If you want him that bad, why wouldn't you just bid 4.5m and get him for 1.5m per year instead, for 3 years??
I don't think it's really a secret anymore of the bid amounts to get to the next price range, as I see them getting bumped to that all the time...
4.5m bid, 22m bid and then the less-often 40m bid that all bump up the price to the next price range of years of the contract.
I always thought.... If you want the guy for 'cheaper' make the appropriate bid to get it to the next price level. Especially if he's only 21 years old.
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FA Bidding
Bids are in format of total contract value. Note that the number of years does not need to be listed until the bid is won. The resulting salary will be the final bid divided by number of years, rounded to the nearest $100k. The winning bid will be the highest total contract amount.
"Note that the number of years does not need to be listed until the bid is won" I even upped the bid, my total contract value is from 18m to 22m, after winning the player, I offer this contract. Doesnt say that I cant.
Is this valid Pigs or not?
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"Note that the number of years does not need to be listed until the bid is won" I even upped the bid, my total contract value is from 18m to 22m, after winning the player, I offer this contract. Doesnt say that I cant.
Is this valid Pigs or not?
short answer: no.
long ans: it's something i tried to do during last offseason's free agency period but it was declined. Gilly + hf6k explained we are modifying a final bid that can result in a lower annual value.
the rule was written to ensure the final bid is the # that is divided, not to then allow the winning team to modify the bid before submitting a contract.
if we were to allow what you are asking winter, then we'd be allowing modification of the final bid after the 48hr period. whether it's an increase or decease before the total value is split into yrs, that is not what the rule was intended to imply.
as was explained to me last yr, you can increase the value per yr to reach the next term level (of yrs... increase annual value from 1.4m on a 2yr deal to 1.5m to reach the 3yr limit).
finally, this rule has been applied consistently since i stepped in so allowing it now would (a) set a precedent for everyone else to modify final bids and (b) past winning bids will suddenly be reopened for revision which is definitely not what we want, to move backwards.
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No problem, 3Yrs. @ $6m per yr.
Thanks
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No problem, 3Yrs. @ $6m per yr.
Thanks
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m.foligno's contract breaks down as
(A) total winning bid is 18.0m
(B) divided by 3yr (since 4yrs wouldn't allow for an acceptable $ range @ 4.5m), equals 6.0m annually.
(C) then you must bump him up to a 4yr deal since 6.0m falls in the 4yr contract range.
(D) final contract is: Marcus Foligno, $6.0m (2015-2016)
Marcus Folingo, $6.0m (2015-16)
team pg updated :judge:
fantrax updated :judge:
aug28-12: contract must be 4yrs given the 6.0m annual cap hit per explanation quoted above.