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Fantasy Leagues => Franchise GM: Transactions => Franchise GM => MLB Leagues => Franchise GM: Completed Transactions => Topic started by: NickF on August 02, 2012, 02:28:15 PM
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braves place CI-OF Prado, Martin, $13m (2015) on waivers
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Boston puts in claim
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:BOS: needs to complete a trade by Wednesday afternoon.
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braves rescind waiver
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72 hour past doesn't that make him a red sox player now?
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72 hour past doesn't that make him a red sox player now?
Traditionally, we have extended a fair amount of leniency in terms of transaction deadlines, so I do not believe it would be either consistent or fair to penalize Nick for being only 28 minutes late in pulling back this waiver claim.
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I understand this league is a free league to play but when do we actually as a team manager know when we can have rule bent and which ones can't be? Innings pitched per week can't have small buffer if you go .1 over your penalized! You place bids have to honor them! But in a playoff run team can go 2 days past to make room for a guy and now 2 72 hour periods to make post to pull waiver back and half hour past yes small time but still here in period of 144 hours couldn't post be made? I will accept what ever is ruled but feel within rules there needs to be some accountability made when times are given to honor it
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I would think a late decision is a late decision. I lost a couple of players to FA last year because I extended them a couple of hours later than the deadline.
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I would think a late decision is a late decision. I lost a couple of players to FA last year because I extended them a couple of hours later than the deadline.
I understand that we may not have made exceptions to the general league deadlines such as the trade deadline, last day to resign expiring contracts, etc, but I do not recall cases when we have taken a hard line with timed deadlines such as the 24, 72 or 144 hour ones. I am trying to be sympathetic to everyone right now.
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In my opinion not awarding Martin Prado to Boston would set a bad precedent for deadlines in the league. If you stretch the rules here and let one GM get by being 28 minutes late where do you draw the line. If I am 1 hour late to rescind a waiver is that too late? If I bid on a Free Agent 28 minutes after the 72 hour deadline is my bid still valid? What is the point in having a 72 hour deadline if it doesn't actually apply. Rules are rules and deadlines are deadlines. They are written down and all GM's in the league should kno them. They should be followed and enforced.
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braves rescind waiver
This one is sticky. The 72 and 144 hour clocks of the waivers are 100% strict like the 72 hour bid clock. Unfortunately for the Braves, they had six days to rescind the waiver and did not do so. Prado goes to the winning team.
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In my opinion not awarding Martin Prado to Boston would set a bad precedent for deadlines in the league. If you stretch the rules here and let one GM get by being 28 minutes late where do you draw the line. If I am 1 hour late to rescind a waiver is that too late? If I bid on a Free Agent 28 minutes after the 72 hour deadline is my bid still valid? What is the point in having a 72 hour deadline if it doesn't actually apply. Rules are rules and deadlines are deadlines. They are written down and all GM's in the league should kno them. They should be followed and enforced.
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Sorry Roy that you are caught in the fire in this one.
Hard clocks are for bidding, posting deals before deadlines, and the waiver clocks.
Soft clocks are for making roster adjustments.
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:iatp:
Sorry Roy that you are caught in the fire in this one.
Hard clocks are for bidding, posting deals before deadlines, and the waiver clocks.
Soft clocks are for making roster adjustments.
I am sorry, but I disagree. There is no mention of hard and soft clocks in the rules, and it seems highly questionable to create that standard now in my opinion. I think the nuance here is that the team already owned Prado versus a FA bid whereby you are trying to acquire the player. Functionally, you could make the argument that this is a roster move in the same sense that a trade would be. I will run this by the RC if you insist. I would welcome their weighing in on the matter.
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4) A decision on the player must be made within 72 hours of the claim. If, within such a time frame, an agreement wasn't posted by both parties NOR was the waive canceled by the waiving team, then the player's contract is considered to moved to the claiming team in exchange for nothing.
There is no gray area within the rule wording is clear. The word must is used in decision within 72 hours. Then saying nothing posted player goes to claiming team cut and dry.
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Jeff, there are two 72 hour periods. A trade wasn't posted by the end of the second period.
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Roy, I agree that the best decision here is to use the RC - Excellent call Commish!
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It is time to move forward on this one, because it has far-reaching effects on other waiver moves. The Red Sox are being awarded Martin Prado with no compensation due to the Braves.
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It is time to move forward on this one, because it has far-reaching effects on other waiver moves. The Red Sox are being awarded Martin Prado with no compensation due to the Braves.