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Title: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: Rob on June 29, 2012, 03:20:02 PM
The 13/14 salary cap will be increased to $82.8m.  Plan accordingly!

Extension prices for 13/14 will be updated to reflect current player values after the NHL season begins.
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: snugerud on September 05, 2012, 10:33:59 AM
are we sticking with this cap increase even if the nhl makes a decrease?
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: Rob on September 05, 2012, 10:41:30 AM
are we sticking with this cap increase even if the nhl makes a decrease?

We'll have to discuss it when the time comes.  I haven't been keeping up with the labor talks.  If they do enact a drastic decrease do you think it will be effective for 13/14?
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: izaman3 on September 05, 2012, 11:11:53 AM
We'll have to discuss it when the time comes.  I haven't been keeping up with the labor talks.  If they do enact a drastic decrease do you think it will be effective for 13/14?

I think any kind of drastic decrease should be accompanied by a salary rollback. We could do it percentage wise, it should be easier to scale back current contracts and extension values by a standard %.

It might not even have to by as large as the NHL rollbacks considered most teams had like 15-20m to spend this FA period.
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: snugerud on September 05, 2012, 02:00:51 PM
i think it will decrease effective this year is what the NHL is pushing for.  I would just adjust the extension as per the cap like we have been. 

It just may end up in a weak FA next season meaning low bids on some players.  If the cap decrease affected more than half the league than it maybe necessary to give everyone the option of a free buyout on a player.  I am sure everyone has at least one butthead on their team they would like to get rid of. 
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: Rob on September 05, 2012, 02:24:38 PM
i think it will decrease effective this year is what the NHL is pushing for.  I would just adjust the extension as per the cap like we have been. 

It just may end up in a weak FA next season meaning low bids on some players.  If the cap decrease affected more than half the league than it maybe necessary to give everyone the option of a free buyout on a player.  I am sure everyone has at least one butthead on their team they would like to get rid of.

My butthead = Tim Thomas.  But I would use more derogatory words to describe him.

Let's see what happens.  If the decrease wouldn't put anyone in the red immediately I'm inclined to adjust accordingly and let our market even out over time.  If not we can talk about free drops to balance things out. 
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: GypsieDeathBringer on September 05, 2012, 02:34:16 PM
It wouldn't be possible to do what the actual NHL is planning on doing, which is basically making the players pay more of their wages into the league's escrow to reduce their cap hit.

So, a  % salary rollback and amnesty buyout might make sense for us free spending teams.

I'll just keep hoping they decide everyone is making enough money and play hockey like they have been, well maybe with more penalties being called. 
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: snugerud on September 05, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
yeah not much sense in guessing whats going to happen.  I am more inclined to just let it buck as well and teams can make their necessary adjustments.  worse case it would probably level the league out a bit to make things more competitive.
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: BeanTown on September 05, 2012, 03:16:20 PM
leave it the same!!! Roll it back I have soo much cap space  :rofl: just kiddin

I am sure we will see a drop but wait and see what the number will be then adjust accordingly. It would be very unfair to a lot of GM who planned this seassonj on 1 huge cap number only to see it drop by 20M
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: snugerud on September 05, 2012, 04:11:43 PM
I should clarify not to drop it this season but the following season.
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: Rob on September 05, 2012, 04:20:36 PM
I should clarify not to drop it this season but the following season.

This years cap will not change since it's based on the 11/12 NHL cap number.  Our 13/14 season would be based on the 12/13 NHL cap number. 
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: izaman3 on September 05, 2012, 05:30:57 PM
leave it the same!!! Roll it back I have soo much cap space  :rofl: just kiddin

I am sure we will see a drop but wait and see what the number will be then adjust accordingly. It would be very unfair to a lot of GM who planned this seassonj on 1 huge cap number only to see it drop by 20M

Yeah, it won't be until later but I think it's useful to talk about now.

Plus I get that some GMs initial plan for certain amounts of cap space. That's why I like a % based rollback on contracts and extensions, because the % of cap space teams have now will still be the % they have after a rollback.

I'm glad the most frugal team in the league is so concerned about the cap, maybe you should worried about a salary floor Bean. lol  :toast:
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: BeanTown on September 13, 2012, 07:07:15 PM
Yeah, it won't be until later but I think it's useful to talk about now.

Plus I get that some GMs initial plan for certain amounts of cap space. That's why I like a % based rollback on contracts and extensions, because the % of cap space teams have now will still be the % they have after a rollback.

I'm glad the most frugal team in the league is so concerned about the cap, maybe you should worried about a salary floor Bean. lol  :toast:

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I may have to worry about it LOL

You guys know I am a "League Guy" and am just playin'

I am happy with anything that is best for the league!
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: snugerud on January 07, 2013, 11:03:50 AM
curious what we are going to do with the cap?
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: Rob on January 07, 2013, 11:05:38 AM
curious what we are going to do with the cap?

I have a proposal for this in my head.  Let me do the math and I'll make a post today or tomorrow about it.
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: izaman3 on February 28, 2013, 06:09:12 PM
Did we ever figure out what we are doing about this? It might affect some teams going into the trade deadline.
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: norrya66 on March 02, 2013, 10:31:34 AM
Did we ever figure out what we are doing about this? It might affect some teams going into the trade deadline.

 :iatp: We should figure this out sooner rather than later!
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: Rob on March 04, 2013, 03:17:41 PM
There won't be any change.  The cap will increase next season like it did in the real NHL.  It will then decrease for 14/15, matching the NHL's decrease (percentage-wise). 

I think we should keep our projected 13/14 salary cap and adjust for the new CBA for the 14/15 season.  Our cap has always been tied to the real salary cap and since this years is essentially unaffected by the CBA (teams can still spend the prorated cap that was announced pre-lockout), our cap for next season should probably also be unaffected.  This will give teams more time to adjust to the cap decrease.  Here's my cap projections for the next couple years:

12/13 - $75.8m
13/14 - $82.8m
14/15 - $75.8m

This is scaled directly from the NHL cap, which looks like this:

11/12 - $64.3m
12/13 - $70.2m (pro-rated)
13/14 - $64.3m

We always lag a year behind the actual league, as do our extension values (which I haven't updated yet). 

Now, assuming everyone agrees to this structure (and I am open to your input) do we want to include amnesty buyouts like the NHL did prior to our 14/15 season?  We have more time to adjust, unlike the actual league.  So I'm not sure if it's necessary or not.  I think if we do buyouts we should only do 1 each since we get the extra year to adjust.  They should also only be allowed at the end of the 13/14 season.

Thoughts?

We haven't talked about allowing free drops since this thread, but I'm leaning heavily towards no drops.  We have plenty of time to adjust to the cap decrease.  I'll bump the discussion topic in case anyone feels strongly about including drops.
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: Tyler on March 04, 2013, 03:44:35 PM
So 64.3 is out hard line cap for the start of next season, correct?

Just want to make sure looking into extensions etc.

Do we have an ext deadline? sorry cant remember!!
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: GypsieDeathBringer on March 04, 2013, 03:57:25 PM
So 64.3 is out hard line cap for the start of next season, correct?

Just want to make sure looking into extensions etc.

Do we have an ext deadline? sorry cant remember!!

I read it as our cap for the start of next year is 82.8m and then the start of the year after it goes down to 75.8m.  So we have all of this year and all of next to basically get down to where we are at now.
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: Rob on March 04, 2013, 03:58:29 PM
So 64.3 is out hard line cap for the start of next season, correct?

Just want to make sure looking into extensions etc.

Do we have an ext deadline? sorry cant remember!!

No, next year's cap is actually increased to from 75.8 to 82.8.  It represents the NHL's increase from 11/12 to 12/13.  We always lag a year behind.  The decrease comes not for 13/14 but for 14/15.  This gives everyone plenty of time to adjust. 

The extension deadline is TBA, but it should be right around the end of the actual NHL Stanley Cup finals.  It'll go from the end of our playoffs to the end of the actual playoffs.
Title: Re: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: Rob on March 04, 2013, 03:58:50 PM
I read it as our cap for the start of next year is 82.8m and then the start of the year after it goes down to 75.8m.  So we have all of this year and all of next to basically get down to where we are at now.

Exactly
Title: 2013/2014 Salary Cap Announcement
Post by: Tyler on March 04, 2013, 09:21:34 PM
Ahhhh ok makes sense. Holy cap space batman!!!!

Good thing as I have about 37 billion in extensions lol