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Title: Red Sox/Twins trade
Post by: Orange Country on January 13, 2012, 12:49:45 PM
I guess this might be the first trade the internal TC reviews. Good luck gents.

Twins receive:

Brandon Jacobs
Sean Coyle
John Alexander (all prospects)

Bobby Jenks 2011: 6M

Boston Red Sox receive:

Denard Span 11: 3M 12: 5M 13: 7M

Brian Duensing 11: 480K


Lidner to agree
Title: Re: Red Sox/Twins trade
Post by: Lindner on January 13, 2012, 02:39:46 PM
I agree to the trade.  As stated in the constitution, we must give our reasoning for doing the trade and here is mine:

Boston Gives:
Brandon Jacobs
Sean Coyle
John Alexander (2011 Draftee)
Bobby Jenks (6M 2012)

for

Minnesota Gives
Denard Span (3M 2012; 5M 2013; 7M 2014)
Brian Duensing (.480M 2012; ARB 2013; ARB 2014)


We are currently in rebuilding mode here in Minnesota.  We really love Span here, but we feel like we need to give him up to bring in younger talent, (Just like the Cubs SHOULD give up Garza!).  His team friendly contract made it especially difficult for us to ship him off. We are able to net some good young talent in this trade though.

Brandon Jacobs is a talented OFer who we definitely wanted to land.  In single-A last year, Jacobs hit for .303 with 17 homeruns and 30 stolen bases in 115 games.  He's a great power/speed prospect that we are very happy to aquire.

We are also very exciting to introduce Sean Coyle to our organization.  In single-A last year, at the age of 19, Croyle hit .247 with 14 homeruns and 20 stolen bases.  These are impressive numbers for a 19 year old second baseman.  We are confident that his discipline at the plate will improve with age and his average will increase as a result.  Our coaches will definitely help him along the way.

Lastly, we net another teenage talent in John Alexander.  Drafted by the Rays in 2011, Alexander signed early and played well in his first 12 games at the professional level.  He hit .314 with 2 homeruns, showing some potential at the dish.  Our farm system here in Minnesota is pretty thin when it comes to first basemen, so we were definitely looking to add some depth.

Along with Span, we also gave up Brian Duensing to make this trade happen.  Duensing has been a solid arm for us over the years and will probably be a cheap sign through his arbitration years.  Nevertheless, we aren't too disappointed giving him up.  He doesn't strike many people out and his ERA (where almost all of his value comes from) saw a huge spike last season.

We also took on Bobby Jenks and his contract.  This wasn't a very big deal to us as it was only $6M for 2012.  We are rebuilding, so we aren't concerned with the outcome of 2012 and we won't be looking to make a huge splash in free agency this year.

Overall, we gave up a good player in Span and a decent pitcher in Duensing to net a high upside outfielder in Jacobs, a second baseman who also has some offensive upside, and some first base depth in our farm system.

Best of luck to both parties! :toast:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yk_nZ4KkLlI/Su3zxyx1XlI/AAAAAAAAAIQ/O60gDVkienU/s400/twins-territory.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Sox/Twins trade
Post by: kenny on January 13, 2012, 02:49:26 PM
I'll organize the AFB TC tonight.
Title: Re: Red Sox/Twins trade
Post by: Lindner on January 13, 2012, 02:57:03 PM
Thanks Kenny
Title: Re: Red Sox/Twins trade
Post by: Orange Country on January 14, 2012, 12:55:41 AM
I forgot about posting reasoning for trading. It's obvious the Bo Sox are in it to win in 2012. Span gives us nice depth in the OF should an injury strike one of my other main ones. Also, he adds some nice speed to my squad as well. At 3M for 2012, he is a relative bargain. My system is good enough to sustain the loss of 3 prospects. They will be missed. Not to mention we dump Jenks who has zero value to me to gain 3M in cap space for the start of FA.
Title: Re: Red Sox/Twins trade
Post by: Daniel on January 23, 2012, 01:19:18 AM
 :iatp:
Title: Re: Red Sox/Twins trade
Post by: DVB78300 on January 23, 2012, 03:09:48 AM
I know the Twins won't like this but since this deal hasn't been voted on at all until today I feel it should be tabled till a new Redsox owner is found and they give their approval of the deal. I know Reid still owned the team for a few days after the deal was posted, bit it went without a vote till today and right now the sox are a ship without a captain, let a new owner come in and approve of the deal first. 
That said if the commish feels the deal should stand regardless, then I vote to approve the deal as I feel its good for both clubs.

 :iatp:
Title: Re: Red Sox/Twins trade
Post by: ldsjayhawk on January 23, 2012, 06:59:39 AM
I agree with Doug.  I believe this trade should be pending the new Boston owner's approval.  That said, should the commish feel it should stand or the new Red Sox owner concur, I approve.

 :iatp:
Title: Re: Red Sox/Twins trade
Post by: PlayerX3D on January 23, 2012, 11:00:17 AM
 :iatp:
Title: Re: Red Sox/Twins trade
Post by: Lindner on January 23, 2012, 12:28:07 PM
Sweet....
Title: Re: Red Sox/Twins trade
Post by: Lindner on January 23, 2012, 12:44:33 PM
In my defense, the trade was accepted days before Boston's ownership changed.

I really wish that my previous owner would have made picks in the first and second round of the amateur draft, but they didn't.  I was forced to inherit the decisions that he had made.

I think this trade was submitted in plenty of time.
 :judge:
Title: Re: Red Sox/Twins trade
Post by: PlayerX3D on January 23, 2012, 01:00:04 PM
In my defense, the trade was accepted days before Boston's ownership changed.

I really wish that my previous owner would have made picks in the first and second round of the amateur draft, but they didn't.  I was forced to inherit the decisions that he had made.

I think this trade was submitted in plenty of time.
 :judge:

I agree.  The trade was made in good faith, and quite a few of us are dealing with decisions made by previous owners *cough* David Price *cough*.  I doubt that the next owner would have strong objections to this deal, but it wouldn't be fair to the Twins to overturn this unless Lindner offers to withdraw the trade.
Title: Re: Red Sox/Twins trade
Post by: Lindner on January 25, 2012, 05:48:39 PM
The Trade Committee's ruling:
4 Approves
0 Vetoes

It has been over 72 hours since this trade has been under the review process.
This trade has been officially approved by the committee.
Title: Re: Red Sox/Twins trade
Post by: kenny on January 31, 2012, 07:27:47 PM
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